Zoramon089
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You don't really understand what Twitter is for, do you?
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Kamiya no longer wants to make Star Fox, explains why
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You don't really understand what Twitter is for, do you?
TDLink
Member
Lol Kamiya is such a masterful troll. It isn't up to him whether he will ever get to touch Star Fox or not. He has made it clear in the past though that it is his dream game. Internet whining (which he deals with on a daily basis) is not going to change his dreams. He just wants to mess with the people messing with him...and he's doing an excellent job of it.
Whatever. If Nintendo pays him to make one, he'll do it. He's just baiting the Twitter idiots, making them feel guilty or whatever.
I'd rather Retro or Treasure made a new F-Zero or Star Fox game. Platinum isn't owned by Nintendo, they can theoretically still make whatever they want.
I'd rather Retro or Treasure made a new F-Zero or Star Fox game. Platinum isn't owned by Nintendo, they can theoretically still make whatever they want.
Dark Octave
Banned
Right there in the OP. I really can't understand why you two are being so ridiculous about this. lol Are you guys trolling me or something?
Roto13 is fanatical in his worship and devotion of Hideki KAMIya.
people like to underplay this, and try and justify the harassment. you can say he's a child or weak, but everyone has a limit. someone who is getting constant 24/7 attention both good and bad will feel stressed and put off.
frankly, if i had thousands of overgrown and overweight nintendo fans and ninteenyearolds constantly drilling (at lightest) me about a game then id be put off
frankly, if i had thousands of overgrown and overweight nintendo fans and ninteenyearolds constantly drilling (at lightest) me about a game then id be put off
What I can't understand is how you keep treating this hyporhetical Starfox game as something tangible, it never was. I'm on my phone so I can't get quickly the original quote, but I think it should be unnecessary at this point.
Dark Octave
Banned
I never said it was a real thing. I said he has given up on the idea of making a Star Fox game.
I guess I can understand him:
https://twitter.com/TerumiNoChikara
All those tweets in the same day. Now multiply that guy by hundreds.
https://twitter.com/TerumiNoChikara
All those tweets in the same day. Now multiply that guy by hundreds.
Red Chocobo
Banned
You would think that so many people asking questions would be a good sign that people are actually interested :/
Never liked the guy anyway. They should reform the original team and make one.
Never liked the guy anyway. They should reform the original team and make one.
Angel Whispers
Member
Wow!! I learned that my post was shared elsewhere, and met with a positive reception. Thank You, those who shared it. I know that not all post on here. Also, Lord Gouda, methodman and Biker19, Thank You for the acknowledgements.
Also, that "Is Starfox your God" tweet never existed. I checked Kamiya's timeline, and it is some blatant photoshopping. It is already quoted in this thread. It is an example of exactly what I said - the "Mr. Angry" labelling, and the lack of empathy for a man heckled to the points of discouragement and disillusion.
Oh, and to those who said "well, he shouldn't be on Twitter, etc.", that's as good as saying your child shouldn't be at school because somebody is bullying. You're missing the point. Like you, he has the right to exist on that site without being subject to the BS he's put up with. Furthermore, one's freedom of speech and expression also means being accountable for the consequences of his/her own actions. It's clear that a lot want all of the former, and none of the latter, and when they're called out on it, they resort to the 'banter and sarcasm' claim, as if to portray themselves as victims, when they're the antagonists.
Also, that "Is Starfox your God" tweet never existed. I checked Kamiya's timeline, and it is some blatant photoshopping. It is already quoted in this thread. It is an example of exactly what I said - the "Mr. Angry" labelling, and the lack of empathy for a man heckled to the points of discouragement and disillusion.
Oh, and to those who said "well, he shouldn't be on Twitter, etc.", that's as good as saying your child shouldn't be at school because somebody is bullying. You're missing the point. Like you, he has the right to exist on that site without being subject to the BS he's put up with. Furthermore, one's freedom of speech and expression also means being accountable for the consequences of his/her own actions. It's clear that a lot want all of the former, and none of the latter, and when they're called out on it, they resort to the 'banter and sarcasm' claim, as if to portray themselves as victims, when they're the antagonists.
Ok, I think I get it now. Your original point is that his loss of interest is comparable to the tantrum of the Fez guy, that makes it sound like you thought the starfox thing was an actual real game, because that would be the only way both responses would be comparable.
blizzardjesus
Banned
it's ok, after the on rails segments in Asura's Wrath... CyberConnect2 would hit a starfox out fo the park.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
Kamiya this Kamiya that, he needs to delete his twitter account seriously.
A few hundred people spamming Twitter doesn't exactly instill confidence in the franchise. Which is why it's basically dead.
Ganondorfo
Junior Member
At least we still have star fox assault, the best star fox game since 64.
RobFox64tm
Member
TheJollyCorner
Member
at this point- pretty much.
The upside with using Twitter & being a 'celebrity' in your industry is that it gives you a platform to interact with fans.
The downside is that you get tons of bullshit because you are famous.
IMO Kamiya inspires the trolls because of the way he responds to (almost) everything. It's not just that he responds, but the way he generally responds; i.e. "do you eat shit" or "go ask your mom". Any attention craving dipshit can essentially get a rise out of the man- and anyone following him or looking at a video game message forum now knows it. It's a seemingly never-ending cycle of troll feeding from both directions.
Now Kamiya is claiming he doesn't even want to do StarFox because of the internet?
Yeah... maybe it's time to take a break, Kamiya. A lot of this shit you brought on yourself.
Dark Octave
Banned
Yes, that's all I was saying. They were both effected by people on the internet and eventually made professional/business decisions based on those interactions.
George Claw M.D.
Member
It seems like the best way to get him to make a game you actually want is to convince him that absolutely no one wants it. His whole schtick seems to be to antagonize his fans.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Shhhh, don't let them KNOW that! Ruins the whole plan!
BumblebeeCody
Member
I agree. Twitter is bullshit anyway. Getting rid of it (or not using it) will give him time to be stress free. After just finishing Wonderful 101, he(and his team) deserve a break.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
That it was fake should have been obvious. I thought most people understood it was a reference to the tweet where he recently asked someone if IGN was their god after hearing of the poor review they gave Wonderful 101.
When is Kamiya ever not trolling on the internet?
He's a grown man, working on two huge projects, so why not have a little fun with his fans on twitter during lunchbreaks or something. This starfox comment seems like something to provoke his followers into getting riled up so they demand him and nintendo for more starfox; that way, there's a higher chance of it happening
Besides, he's far from the only well known dev who trolls his fans on twitter(Ed boon being a prime example) but I can understand how some of the things kamiya's written can be taken the wrong way...Maybe he can't write in english as well as he understands it. In the end, just try not to take things he says seriously, because it doesn't seem like he does when he writes them.
He's a grown man, working on two huge projects, so why not have a little fun with his fans on twitter during lunchbreaks or something. This starfox comment seems like something to provoke his followers into getting riled up so they demand him and nintendo for more starfox; that way, there's a higher chance of it happening
Besides, he's far from the only well known dev who trolls his fans on twitter(Ed boon being a prime example) but I can understand how some of the things kamiya's written can be taken the wrong way...Maybe he can't write in english as well as he understands it. In the end, just try not to take things he says seriously, because it doesn't seem like he does when he writes them.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Kamiya: I don't want to work on Star Fox anymore. Because I already am working on a new Star Fox.
Obviously.
Obviously.
Take that seriously and you'll be disappointed.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but no where in that does he explain WHY he's no longer interested in making it, just that people ask him and he's just now telling them he's not anymore.
I think assuming that he means he's not interested in it because he's tired of being asked about it is making an incorrect logic jump based on his statements.
I think assuming that he means he's not interested in it because he's tired of being asked about it is making an incorrect logic jump based on his statements.
darkazcura
Member
Well, I guess I disagree then since there's no "because" in his statement. If there was, I'd say it's clear. However, without any language linking the two I don't think it's clear at all, and could easily be "people keep asking me about it. (end thought) I just don't want to do it anymore (now leave me alone)"
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Why are people comparing him about Fish again?
It seems more like Polygon made the news as though he cried about it. It seems more like a reaction on a successive troll post. Something he handled well by not posting long, incoherent posts.
It seems more like Polygon made the news as though he cried about it. It seems more like a reaction on a successive troll post. Something he handled well by not posting long, incoherent posts.
Axispowers
Member
They should give it to team ninja then.
SporeCrawler
Member
to be honest whats the last starfox game that didnt bomb?
bodeiseifer
Member
Good, w101 was horrible.
You looking to start something son?
Have you even played it? I guess so, but I can't see how anyone would consider this game "horrible". It's one of the most unique and refreshing games I've played in the last decade.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
This guy gets it.
Oni Link 666
Member
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he just wants people to STFU about it. LOL
Bill Rizer
Member
I'd be very fine even with a Gradius-esque Starfox; classic 2 player side shooter but with Starfox characters and dialogues, shooting mechanics and branching paths. Would be amazing!
SporeCrawler
Member
factually incorrect statement
wonderful101 is one of the best games this year and the best game of platinum so far.
Arc Christelle
Member
I dunno. I've tweeted Kamiya before, he's a pretty humble dude. Way nicer than I expected. Not as arrogant as you'd expect.
I asked him does he ever get annoyed with fans, he told me that he felt it was a great honor for him to receive their expectations.
Kamiya says a lot of respectful things and it mostly gets overlooked sadly
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Like I said, he's not like some person (*cough*Fish) who initiates the terrible stuff. Most of the "anger" Kamiya spouts is due to another person and not him. If you approach him normally, he's a pretty cool guy.