francisnobleman
Banned
Change the name to: Ken & Friends Adventures: Let's Rescue Barbie Pink Edition
Keep the exact same game.
Woudn't score more than 7/10.
Keep the exact same game.
Woudn't score more than 7/10.
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IGN's hyperbole and circle-jerking of GTA5 is pretty embarassing
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RobFox64tm
Member
This is everything a review SHOULDN'T be, but just to warn you, GAF doesn't agree, and they'll come at you pretty hard and pretty fast.
A product review isn't the same thing as an editorial folks, even if that's basically what they've become.
I'm sure someone else pointed out this irony already but in case not, isn't it ironic that IGN recently stated that GTA IV was one of their most over-rated games of all time (which can be attributed by sites like theirs hyping it as one of the best games of all time when it clearly wasn't), but they're doing the exact same thing now with GTA V?
IcyRhythms
Member
Rockstar doesn't need IGN's help.
They can quit anytime and this game will still do 25M+ before it's over
They can quit anytime and this game will still do 25M+ before it's over
base shagohod
Member
Is there even a point to this post?
francisnobleman
Banned
The brand GTA scores way above its height, else in fact, titles like GTA IV don't deserve more than an 8. And that's being generous.
...are you suggesting that reviewers ought to adhere to your own personal feelings regarding the series?
I think Chinatown Wars and San Andreas deserved 15/10. GTA scores way below its weight.
A lot of people feel that way I think. People want their perspective to be championed over anything else. And that in of itself is bukkake.
10/10 confirmed. The review is going to be 3 pages long and written in that language for sure.
After that..like i said before,see what happend with GTA 4. I don't know but i am not so excited about it. This hype is so massive that bubble will burst..oh yes it will happen.
Reviews should reflect that the games are deeply flawed on the fundamental level.
Just ban the site for all I care. Stops the clicks.
what's your definition of the fundamental level?
Why is that? Perhaps for some people it does deserve that score, or even more.
You can't say "X game doesn't deserve more than Y score" without explaining your reasons for that statement. If you do, it seems like you're gratuitously shitting on the game. Maybe the game is good, at least in the eyes of those who reviewed it, and you just happened to not like it. And I say this as someone who was disappointed with GTA IV. Would I have scored it with a 10? Of course not. Is it wrong that other people did? Nope, apparently they thought it was deserved (or, if you want to believe it, they may have got some benefits for scoring it that way, but that's a completely different matter).
There's no "objective score" that a game should get. It's always subjective.
Nah, I'm not excited either. I mean, I'll probably play it someday, but I can think of at least 10 games I want to play more than that.
Game mechanics.
And what was deeply flawed about them?
Kadayi
Banned
It wasn't lost on me. Right down the bottom of the page they had a link to the video.
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/08/12/game-scoop-the-most-overrated-games
And they really put the boot in to be fair.
GTAIV probably did.
Past GTAs though? Not really.
GTAV also looks like a game that could very well deserve a 10, on the modern game reviews scale.
I mean plenty of games get a 10, it's not some mythical score that gets passed once every 30 years.
Just look at how many 40s Famitsu gave in the last decade, compared to the previous one.
So getting outraged over GTAV getting a lot of 10s isn't really worthed, however shitty their review methods are.
PsychoSoldier
Banned
I'm not sure the level or degree of criticism is totally warranted in this case, but every preview/review of this game is going to be scrutinized to this degree due to the gaping maw between the effusive, nearly universal praise the game received versus the actual bad experience at least some users had with the game.
That people found out later that most of the reviews were done in extraordinarily controlled settings only added to a feeling that anything about the followup that the press wrote about it was going to be treated with suspicion or outright disdain by at least some people.
Previews like this help nothing in this regard.
Of course, for my part, while I chuckle at the way these previews are written, IGN lost me a long time ago due to GTAIV. This kind of stuff is just reminding me why I stopped paying attention in the first place.
That people found out later that most of the reviews were done in extraordinarily controlled settings only added to a feeling that anything about the followup that the press wrote about it was going to be treated with suspicion or outright disdain by at least some people.
Previews like this help nothing in this regard.
Of course, for my part, while I chuckle at the way these previews are written, IGN lost me a long time ago due to GTAIV. This kind of stuff is just reminding me why I stopped paying attention in the first place.
What the...
I envy you, francisnobleman. To have the power to objectively decide what sort of subjective scores a game deserves. Amazing!
GAF is a weird fucking place these days.
base shagohod
Member
Honestly, I don't even know why I asked you that question, since I don't even understand why people put so much into reviews and shit.
Not sure if you are serious...
francisnobleman
Banned
All I'm saying is this specific game much probably does not deserve the reviews it will get, but since is has GRAND THEFT AUTO in the name, thats a granted 2 points of karma on the 0 to 10 scale.
And such articles like this will only help the consumism for this type of media frenzy, fed into anyone who is not whilling to see the larger picture.
With all this, I am not implying the game isn´t gonna be good. Probably will play it on PC.
That's the point. Giant Bomb wouldn't write something like that because they're not idiots.
GTA4 is worse than san andreas in every single way. they took san andreas, a great game, stripped away most of its features down to a husk, made it HD and have some physics and stuff, and called it GTA4. the reviews were pretty shameful.
I'm looking forward to playing GTA5 this month, but I won't be fooled by the hype. not even one bit. my eyes are clear.
I'm looking forward to playing GTA5 this month, but I won't be fooled by the hype. not even one bit. my eyes are clear.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
I think both were terrible. Gameplay was shocking.
The problem with "What if the game's that good?" is the existence on that Gamasutra article where an ex-Rock Star PR guy outlines their process for preview selection, and how if your preview is not 100% effusive praise, you will not get the next exclusive. Rock Star keeps (or kept) in-depth data on reviewers, and would try to get 'team players' assigned to cover their titles. This specific company has a franchise that is gigantic, and they fiercely protect the quality of their brand by using their size as a club to smack down dissenters.
That is PR's job, but knowing how brazen RockStar is about it, and how willing they've been to punish previews that acknowledged their games might have flaws, means it's really, really hard to believe the game really is that good, when the preview shows up on day one of a week of RockStar provided exclusives.
That is PR's job, but knowing how brazen RockStar is about it, and how willing they've been to punish previews that acknowledged their games might have flaws, means it's really, really hard to believe the game really is that good, when the preview shows up on day one of a week of RockStar provided exclusives.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
People mad because they know the GOAT is dropping this month.
Dick Justice
Banned
What a gross oversimplification. IV, while it had its issues, improved the base gameplay monumentally, and essentially laid the groundwork for a sequel with all the features they had to take out. And adding in Euphoria made the game a lot more fun for me, more than just having "physics and stuff".
Zen_Arcade
Banned
Everyone over hypes GTA games when they come out. Press and consumer alike.
The bias continues...this is getting extraordinarily ugly...
You used it. My point still stands.
1Wow. Borderline conspiracy theorists? Who says that you aren't a conspiracy theorist in that we are one?
Because I don't use WE when discussion an opinion.
It's not necessarily the amount that we're debating, so much as the quality.
But thanks for joining in.
City of Dis
Member
The piss poor writing is far more offending than the actual tone.
It's fucking Grand Theft Auto 5, of course it's going to be amazing.
It's fucking Grand Theft Auto 5, of course it's going to be amazing.
TheOohChild
Member
Don't read IGN?
September 17.
POWERSPHERE
Banned
Shit it's a Murdoch publication. Advertorial is the least of their evils.
Combat (shooting and hand to hand) has been just terrible in all games in the series so far.
EDIT: I take back my definition of the term, lol.
Look it up yourself, I don't feel like getting banned.
Lazloisdavrock
Banned
Giant Bomb gave GTAIV a perfect score. I love that game, and V is going to be much better than that. Its deserves all the hype is gets.
why is everyone buttmad
why is everyone buttmad
Rockstar knows how to run the business. We're seeing the effects of certain marketing pushes gearing towards launch.
Did IGN get on its knees for them? Yes, Embarrassingly so I agree...
But would the next man have if IGN didn't get the scoop? Overwhelmingly yes....
The problem is that publishers/devs have way to intimate relationships with gaming media. When companies are threatening journalists who dare to detail any minor issues or nuances with an upcoming game by "putting them on a blacklist", I think something needs to be said about the integrity of the industry at hand.
another thing to consider is the fact the MP isnt going to be avalilbe when the game ships
Metacritic doesnt allow multiple reviews, so how many jounalists are going to overlook any issues they have if the SP winds up being "boring" or what ever they said about GTA IV, and possibly a repeat of the PS3 where theres a game breaking bug, but throw in "but you can be sure when the MP comes out it'll be great so this game still gets a 9 or a 10, otherwise id only give it an 8" or something to that extent
Metacritic doesnt allow multiple reviews, so how many jounalists are going to overlook any issues they have if the SP winds up being "boring" or what ever they said about GTA IV, and possibly a repeat of the PS3 where theres a game breaking bug, but throw in "but you can be sure when the MP comes out it'll be great so this game still gets a 9 or a 10, otherwise id only give it an 8" or something to that extent
Lazloisdavrock
Banned
Do people really care that much about someones opinion of a game?
"gaming journalist" joke
"gaming journalist" joke
I would rather have a real preview, with interesting and important information, than meaningless fluff pieces to drum up hype.
I mean, they did get to play the game.
Dude. Thanks. Seems like you edited your post to write this as I'm seeing this just now.
I give your review of my review of IGN's previews 5/5 DORITOS® JACKED Ranch Dipped Hot Wings Flavored Tortilla Chips