alfredofroylan
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Not really, it's a good way to put the power of this franchise.I see no trolling here IMO.
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Media Create Sales: Week 37, 2013 (Sep 09 - Sep 15)
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Glass Rebel
Member
The slim is the same price and not really a huge difference in dimensions just... thinner.
Porting a PS3 game to Vita is pretty low-effort compared to PS3-to-3DS and P4G has already built a fanbase on Vita. If P5 were to be released tomorrow, 3DS wouldn't necessarily be a good choice tbh.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
I no longer think Nintendo/Sony are somehow at fault for the Wii U and Vita's numbers; Japan just doesn't seem to give a shit about anything other than the 3DS at this point.
Also, Vita is the only system beating its last YTD. Silver lining I guess.
Also, Vita is the only system beating its last YTD. Silver lining I guess.
I'd say it it their faults, they both misread the market imo.
maabus1999
Member
Yeah but with a price cut factored in, I'm still "meh" towards its overall sales.
Really looks like Vita doesn't have a killer Japan App yet (going off software sales). Which makes me wonder about VitaTV in Japan also.
AranhaHunter
Banned
Proof that Nintendo absolutely did the right thing going after the MH franchise. It also proves that Sony is stupid for not trying to hold on to it.
Sylverstone14
Member
All I can think right now when I see Monster Hunter's numbers (and the 3DS numbers).
Don't worry, they will be on mobile as well.
This made me lol so much. 10/10
Wait: why?
Nintendo DS is the most successfull Nintendo console ever. It lasted from 2004 to 2013 (when it was discointinued), with the new console introduced in 2011. So 7 years on the market "alone" and 9 years total on production.
The Nintendo 3DS was put on the market in 2011. If it will last as the DS it will be discontinued in 2020, with the new console introduced in 2018.
Why this would be "beyond any logic"? I mean: they will follow this path if the console will be successfull, while they'll speed up timing if (as I think) the 3DS will slow down way more than the DS did. But why look at PS360 as bad examples for a timing that was set by the 3DS predecessor?
maabus1999
Member
See that PS3 LTD number? I would expect at best 20% less than what the PS3 achieved last generation.
Demographics and mobile cultural changes are going to put a big dampener on home consoles in Japan IMO. And looking at Sony's current strategy with the PS4, I think they expect this too.
Screamapillar
Member
And... this week and Oct 12 is how 3DS matches and exceeds last year's YTD hardware numbers. Just like that!
FreedomFighter
Member
Why are people quoting Fozzie Bear?
spatenfloot
Member
It is like any other product. The most popular is usually not the best in terms of quality.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
* Final Fantasy XIV drops are incredible. Have we seen any other games with similar sales after only the third week?
* Even though Lost Planet 3 sales are pretty terrible, I'm actually surprised at how much it did sell. It's a huge drop off from 2, but I was sure no one knew this game existed.
* Monster Hunter vastly outperformed my expectations. I was convinced the userbase hadn't quite jumped on the system yet so sales might have initially been more soft, but considering MH3U legs/sales, there's obviously a 2+ million fanbase already there.
* 3DS hardware should pretty much stay significantly high for the remainder of the year. Impressive software timing, Nintendo.
* Even though Lost Planet 3 sales are pretty terrible, I'm actually surprised at how much it did sell. It's a huge drop off from 2, but I was sure no one knew this game existed.
* Monster Hunter vastly outperformed my expectations. I was convinced the userbase hadn't quite jumped on the system yet so sales might have initially been more soft, but considering MH3U legs/sales, there's obviously a 2+ million fanbase already there.
* 3DS hardware should pretty much stay significantly high for the remainder of the year. Impressive software timing, Nintendo.
Next week sales will be lower than this week. That's how it works. Games like this are extremely front loaded.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Haha that's from Fozzie bear it's also an insult in the Nigerian language of Igbo.
Its Pac-Man
Just look at Jojo's 2nd week sales. If I'm correct, it dropped as much as 95%.
edit: I probably didn't get your point here.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
True but if it's like P3rd it should have some decent legs.
maabus1999
Member
2 Days front loaded only, not a full week. Drop will be there but not as large as one might think.
Yeah, it'll sell just 1 million. =P
Glass Rebel
Member
MH has shown fantastic legs over the years with FW sales often being less than 50% of the LTD sales.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Sure, first week, but second week it pulled off a 59% drop, which is more in line with what I would have expected for this game week over week. FFXIV saw a ~95% first week drop to another 81% drop. That's insane.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
It has RE,FF,KH,MGS etc it will be fine. Question is how well could it perform.
Thats because its sold out unlike JoJo.
Most importantly, MH3G on 3DS showed those legs until few weeks ago. So probably also MH4 will have legs (not as stellar but still...)
Yeah. I made a stealth edit on that. I was wrong with my post.
The Wii U has Zelda, Mario, Wii Sports, etc. True, the PS4 will get all those games eventually, but the next RE, FF, KH, likely won't come out until 2015 at the earliest. MGS 5 is the only one that is coming anywhere near 2014.
maabus1999
Member
It is just the first sign that FFXIV staying power may not be as strong as first thought. It was fully front loaded on "day one" purchasers, and going off the standard "I already maxxed out my character and am bored" comments I saw on MMORPG.com, it fits the pattern of basically every subscription MMO launch post-WoW. MMO crowd has A.) shrunk and B.) is addicted to 7+ years of WoW content.
MH4 did great. 3DS did great. Every other platform, not so much. It looks very grim.
So did the PS3, barring a new KH title.
Devilgunman
Member
Japan is still owned by smartphone games, or to be accurate, Puzzle and Dragon. Gungho has been making money from P&D equivalent to 3M copies of MH4 every single month for the past few years. I would be happy if a single dedicated gaming console can thrive against smartphone market at all so we don't have to play all Japanese games on the phone in the future.
So basically, by next week (or in a couple weeks, depending on shipments of MH4), the 3DS Monster Hunters will have outsold the entire Vita library combined?
It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. I still love you Vita, but...got damn.
most importantly, some of those games are far away, and could possibly be weaker than in the past
no doubt that PS4 will be the market leader of the home market in Japan, but I wonder when (if some of its best games are multi with PS3) and "how much", considering the home market right now
I just would like to remember that I still think that considering all the context elements, probably it will be the only console able to repeat its predecessor HW LTD numbers, btw
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yes and the when I mean fine I mean the PS3 because many people believe Japan is just going to reject consoles because the WiiU bombed.
PS3 also had a higher price point, the above titles took longer to come out on it, had big competition with the Wii and MS money hatted several games, whereas the PS4 seems to have none of those problems (so far)
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It was also the successor to the PS2. The PS4 is the successor to the PS3 and handheld and smartphone gaming is much more prevalent. Also no backwards compatibility so it will face the same issue the Vita had (it will compete directly with it's predecessor).
mugurumakensei
Member
Uh... FF XV and KH3 wont be releasing any time soon (2-3 years away minimum for both of those titles). It's also coming a much weaker predecessor than the PS3 did. Along with this, the PS4 launch titles even in Japan are more geared to the western market.
Edit: Noted above, but it also lacks backwards compatibility.
Didn't know that...
Does it? MH4 should be roughly on par with MHP3rd's first two days, it might even be a little higher. That's pretty impressive and I honestly wouldn't have believed a few months ago that MH4 could possibly open as strong as MHP3rd did. Time will tell if it's going to have legs as strong, though. With MH's popularity on a peak, it's very well possible that it starts to become more frontloaded as less people discover the franchise for the first time. Looking at the 3DS's total user base, it definitely wouldn't be a surprise if it falls short compared to MHP3rd, but I think that's okay.
GregLombardi
Member
Now that's a AAA / system seller title.
So MH4 killed all the other 3DS titles in the same span? That's pretty funny since I was hearing that evergreen titles would benefit from a nice bump. To be quite honest, that's kind of foreboding for X/Y as that will crush MH4 in sales as well as stifle the rest if MH4 is anything to go by. Also, I'm quite curious to see what Nintendo has planned at this point past XY and MH4 outside of SSB 3DS. As for the rest, Wii U and Vita are in a race to the bottom. I think Wii U will hit it first.
It's MonHun time. No way anyone will play anything else right now.
I think the PS4 will perform similarly to the PS3, may do better early on than the PS3, and may end up with an LTD similar to the PS3. As to whether that's fine depends on the person. People call the current state of the consoles as dead instead of the new norm.
Looking at software sales, the Wii did not seem like an alternative for PS3 owners due to what 3rd-party games sold. So I don't believe the Wii was a big factor for the PS3's fumbling in the beginning.
I think the PS4 will perform similarly to the PS3, may do better early on than the PS3, and may end up with an LTD similar to the PS3. As to whether that's fine depends on the person. People call the current state of the consoles as dead instead of the new norm.
perfectchaos007
Member
Is this the first time the WiiU has dipped below 5,000? It's in a dire situation right now and Zelda won't save it in Japan. Japan likes Zelda about as much as the US likes Dragon Quest.