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Rumor: PlayStation 4 gets graphically definitive version of Watch_Dogs

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Imagine a GAF with separate PC and Console gaming sections. I want to be part of that.
We can have our random game OT where we can bitch about the frame rate or horrible AA and you guys can go on about your troubles with drivers and Origin bashing without either of us having to listen to the other.
 
Sounds like a good time.

Exactly but every PC enthusiast needs to point out that they can run the game better which is their own threshold for excellence. In my experience PC games have wonderful IQ and terribly short lived online communities due to the abundance of games PC players tend to amass. It's all saber rattling on both sides wanting to be "the best" objectively when each person approaches a game they like for different reasons.
 

SJRB

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I like to think Yves Guillemot reads this thread and then calls the guy from the interview into his office, pointed towards his pc monitor and says: "what ze FUCK did you do?"
 

SirSimba1

Banned
Exactly but every PC enthusiast needs to point out that they can run the game better which is their own threshold for excellence. In my experience PC games have wonderful IQ and terribly short lived online communities due to the abundance of games PC players tend to amass. It's all saber rattling on both sides wanting to be "the best" objectively when each person approaches a game they like for different reasons.

Neat. Championing for another poster.
 

szaromir

Banned
Really? Are you really not aware how few people own enthusiast level PC's? It's a very niche market compared to consoles. Not to mention so many peoples friends own consoles, etc.
There is a market for consoles, definitely. But if someone is so dedicated about differences between different versions of the same games as to type hundreds posts about the issue (and dozens about each particular title) on a message board then surely he should settle for no less than the very best one?
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
So the rumour was debunked back on page two and now it is a pc vs console thread? Or did I miss something in between?

PS4 is the definitive console version. We know that PC is the best so even when saying "PS4 is the definitive version" we know that PC is best. I have a PC that is best. I hoped others would take that with a grain of salt as well but this is now a big thread.
 

bj00rn_

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After observing literally months of "PS4 graphics are awesome. XB1 is shit banderas.gif" type discussions on NeoGAF....even when bringing up that fact is irrelevant.

I open this thread, see a post about how PC version will actually be the definitive version and all of a sudden a 12 page discussion about how dreadful it is to have a set of gamers who favour one platform to express said platforms superiority?

You're not the only one observing the growing amnesty, sensitivity and protection of anything PS4-related on this forum, it's a worrisome trend.

Anyway, again; the OP fucked up, people got worried something happened to the PC version, no big deal.
 
Imagine a GAF with separate PC and Console gaming sections. I want to be part of that.
We can have our random game OT where we can bitch about the frame rate or horrible AA and you guys can go on about your troubles with drivers and Origin bashing without either of us having to listen to the other.

This x Infinity
 

Vizzeh

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1080p for PS4 im happy with, the X1 seems to be getting all the lower res rumours, 900p?

I dont understand how if both can do 60fps, with the PS4 being smooth, the X1 fps dips, why is 30fps the target?
 
PS4 is the definitive console version. We know that PC is the best so even when saying "PS4 is the definitive version" we know that PC is best. I have a PC that is best. I hoped others would take that with a grain of salt as well but this is now a big thread.

Not sure why it is even a discussion at this point. Ah well.
 

DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
The roller coaster with this game's development concerns in the last 48 hours in this board has been a great ride, but man the PC dialog is headache inducing to sift through.
 
PS4 is the definitive console version. We know that PC is the best so even when saying "PS4 is the definitive version" we know that PC is best. I have a PC that is best. I hoped others would take that with a grain of salt as well but this is now a big thread.
And where do you see that information exactly?
 
You're not the only one observing the growing amnesty, sensitivity and protection of anything PS4-related on this forum, it's a worrisome trend.

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There is a market for consoles, definitely. But if someone is so dedicated about differences between different versions of the same games as to type hundreds posts about the issue (and dozens about each particular title) on a message board then surely he should settle for no less than the very best one?


Surely everyone would want to pay the price to have a high end PC. Surely.
 

Raydeen

Member
1080p for PS4 im happy with, the X1 seems to be getting all the lower res rumours, 900p?

I dont understand how if both can do 60fps, with the PS4 being smooth, the X1 fps dips, why is 30fps the target?

I'm sure the ESDRAM issues will take a while for developers to figure out.

Remember Virtua Fighter on the Saturn's less then orthadox hardware:-

Day One:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-qqsFd5q1w

and then obviously two years later (or was it one...)

6 months later. Virtua Fighter Remix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4QUZ-yyDSs

And then two years later the 60 fps apex of VF2. Video is only 30 fps. :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peGheI2vAmI

Although i prefered Fighter's Megamix.... (gameplay is king!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3eZ63b_-ek
 

LiquidMetal14

hide your water-based mammals
Where do you see that?

I think the fact that we've seen it shown on PS4 and we know that the PS4 is more powerful would at least lead us to believe this no?

Unless the dev is purposefully holding one version back to keep parity. Would you not think this if the Xbone was more powerful and looked or ran the same?

I fully expect even the launch titles to have some performance differences since PS4 is more powerful. If not then I don't know what to tell you. They are launch games after all.

If they're playable then I don't think anyone will be complaining other than those who want to say their version is better. I just hope it's playable on both platforms and even current gen.
 

Dennis

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Imagine a GAF with separate PC and Console gaming sections. I want to be part of that.
We can have our random game OT where we can bitch about the frame rate or horrible AA and you guys can go on about your troubles with drivers and Origin bashing without either of us having to listen to the other.
That without a shadow of a doubt the worst idea for GAF I have ever heard.
 

pixlexic

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Surely everyone would want to pay the price to have a high end PC. Surely.


It all evens out really. You can build a $1,000 PC over the course of a year or 2 . or pay $500 up front for a console and spend another $500 over time for online services and add ons such as new Hdds.
 
I have been playing console games since the NES (even commodore 64 before if that count). I have had a top of the line PC since 1993 almost always playing games at max settings (Crysis was not nice to my new 8800 ultra at the time). I love graphic fidelity and always enjoy every new tech and demonstration of whats to come. However this has never stopped me from enjoying diffrent platforms. Playing 4 player DM on N64 was so much fun and me and my buds play it still on occasion. The first Lan party's and even Dreamhack (from Sweden) I went to was incredible experiences playing CS and WoW. Slaying colossi on PS2 was breathtaking.

The define version of a game is were you have the most fun for me not the graphically superior. I owned both the PC version of BF3 and the PS3 one and even though the PC version stomped on the PS3 graphically most of my buddies played it on PS3 and because of that i enjoyed that version more. I have a paragon lvl 70 Barb with 700h+ playtime in Diablo 3 on PC but still playing my new copy on ps3 in a couch with 4 player coop is incredible even though the limitations. Skyrim on PC and all the user created content makes the console version so inferior.

Not to mention platform exclusive games and games that just don´t work well on them (just stop trying to make RTS for console if you don´t add mouse keyboard support) adds to what makes platforms shine and worth having.

Everybody knows that a maxed out PC will always be the definitive graphical version of any game available to all platforms or they are in denial and I feel sorry for them. Still the REAL definite version of a game is the one YOU have the most FUN with regardless of platform.

Stop bickering on were to play games and enjoy the one you get on your preferred platform regardless of reason from economical, friends, graphics etc.

But I guess some people just want to watch these threads burn....
 

pixlexic

Banned
I have been playing console games since the NES (even commodore 64 before if that count). I have had a top of the line PC since 1993 almost always playing games at max settings (Crysis was not nice to my new 8800 ultra at the time). I love graphic fidelity and always enjoy every new tech and demonstration of whats to come. However this has never stopped me from enjoying diffrent platforms. Playing 4 player DM on N64 was so much fun and me and my buds play it still on occasion. The first Lan party's and even Dreamhack (from Sweden) I went to was incredible experiences playing CS and WoW. Slaying colossi on PS2 was breathtaking.

The define version of a game is were you have the most fun for me not the graphically superior. I owned both the PC version of BF3 and the PS3 one and even though the PC version stomped on the PS3 graphically most of my buddies played it on PS3 and because of that i enjoyed that version more. I have a paragon lvl 70 Barb with 700h+ playtime in Diablo 3 on PC but still playing my new copy on ps3 in a couch with 4 player coop is incredible even though the limitations. Skyrim on PC and all the user created content makes the console version so inferior.

Not to mention platform exclusive games and games that just don´t work well on them (just stop trying to make RTS for console if you don´t add mouse keyboard support) adds to what makes platforms shine and worth having.

Everybody knows that a maxed out PC will always be the definitive graphical version of any game available to all platforms or they are in denial and I feel sorry for them. Still the REAL definite version of a game is the one YOU have the most FUN with regardless of platform.

Stop bickering on were to play games and enjoy the one you get on your preferred platform regardless of reason from economical, friends, graphics etc.

But I guess some people just want to watch these threads burn....


when the performance hinders the game then none of what you said matters.

sonic allstar racing 2 can only be 1080p at 60 fps on the pc.

a lot of games can only be 1080p at 60 fps on the pc.

Allstars racing 2 is great example. where both 60 fps and 1080p greatly help the gameplay.

that is where in the problems lays with consoles. Most devs try to squeeze as much out of them for graphics as possible when in the end its just hurting the games.
 

SLY_

Banned
This thread is so nice. Or when unnamed sources are more believable than the Creative Director.

He couldn't reveal the "truth" cause he woulda upset the X1 loyalists. The anonymity of the "source" allows for full disclosure.

Don't you want the truth man!
 

antitrop

Member
This topic is about Watch Dogs. Never once was the phrase "definitive console version" used. The article mentions the PC version. Your direct attacks are very immature and make no sense in the context of this topic. There's an over 100 page topic on the front page about discussing the power of the two consoles that's not ambiguous in regards to the PC. This topic is quite clearly ambiguous and it's not even a good article so take a damn chill pill. This pent up rage at PC gamers is extremely unwarranted, there are annoying people on every side so these bizarre generalizations are quite unnecessary.

And Steam stats show the most common resolution is 1080p, the most common OS is W7 64 bit, most common RAM is 8GB, most common VRAM is 1GB, DX11 most common by far. Your point about that is just wrong.

God damn, son, you came in here and cleaned up.

Reading your posts this morning has been a joy, you hit the nail on the head every time.
 
when the performance hinders the game then none of what you said matters.

sonic allstar racing 2 can only be 1080p at 60 fps on the pc.

a lot of games can only be 1080p at 60 fps on the pc.

Allstars racing 2 is great example. where both 60 fps and 1080p greatly help the gameplay.

that is where in the problems lays with consoles. Most devs try to squeeze as much out of them for graphics as possible when in the end its just hurting the games.

Sry but I really don´t understand but i will guess your point. You mean consoles destroy the game by not delivering the same performance as the PC version? If thats the case simply don´t get the game on that platform no one forces you. Also if you are not able to get the PC version because of different reasons such as you cant afford a gaming PC or others I still believe that person still prefer to play it even though it cant deliver the same performance then not having it on that platform at all and not even be able to play it.
 

Lebron

Member
Well that's a real shame for the other versions then, since the PS4 version looks like meh. And to think what this looked like when they first announced it.
 
Imagine a GAF with separate PC and Console gaming sections. I want to be part of that.
We can have our random game OT where we can bitch about the frame rate or horrible AA and you guys can go on about your troubles with drivers and Origin bashing without either of us having to listen to the other.

Most games have something like that already; an OT where the game is discussed and a "PC Performance" thread where PC guys can discuss tweaks.

People just need to grow thicker skin
 

omonimo

Banned
Can anyone delight me, please. Yesterday Ubi said was in doubt 720p on console, not it's 1080p & '60 fps' uh? I just hope for sure 1080p I'm not pretendig miracle.
 
Most games have something like that already; an OT where the game is discussed and a "PC Performance" thread where PC guys can discuss tweaks.

People just need to grow thicker skin

My cousin has a dog that looks like your avatar. He's 150 pounds of frustrated Pitbull. He's lovely.
 
My cousin has a dog that looks like your avatar. He's 150 pounds of frustrated Pitbull. He's lovely.

She's a 25 pound French Bulldog, not really frustrated though, more like overconfident.

Thanks for the compliment though, she's a great dog.

Edit: Dog Fort is one of my favorite web comics ever. :)

Back on topic now!
 
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