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[Maxxan]

OK, so first of all, this is not meant to be a console vs PC thread. We all know that consoles have some great exclusives and are easy to use, while PCs also have some great exclusives and are scalable as fuck. In a perfect world, everyone has both. In a non-perfect world, people have to choose. And that's perfectly fine.

So, what's the most tempting aspect of PC gaming, in my opinion? It's not indies (Sony's stepped their game up), not MOBA/MMO (not my cup of tea), but the prospect of playing multiplats at the highest settings in sweet, sweet 1080p60.

Now, since most flash players don't do 60 fps justice, there aren't many of videos of what this looks like. Gamersyde has a couple of good ones, but my laptop is weak and cannot play them on my TV very well. The best recent example of what I'm looking for is this Battlefield 4 vid from Eurogamer, as it played perfectly on my PS3 via USB.

So what am I after? Well, the most amazing 1080p60 vids of games such as Battlefield 4, Far Cry 3 (would love to see this game played at 60 fps), Crysis 3 etc. in a format that can be played on my PS3. Make me a beliver, GAF!

(Searched for similar threads. Lock and give me a ridiculing tag if one already exists)

 

[ekim]

You can download all Gamersyde videos afaik. Also you can install the DownloadHelper Plugin for Firefox to extract the video from a homepage.

MGSV 60FPS video: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-watch-mgs5-at-60fps

 

[SparkTR]

Here's some Crysis 3 stuff from Gamersyde. They're in MP4 so you can view them on PS3, but it's 1080/60 to it's like 1GB for 3 mins of video.

Also what Sony is doing with indies is a drop in the ocean compared to what's on PC. Seriously, dig a little and you'll find great stuff that GAF ignores.

 

[otapnam]

If you're ready to spend 1000$ on a setup then you're good to go.

 

[Maxxan]

I guess what I'm looking for was on Gamersyde all along Now I'm only missing Far Cry 3 =)

 

[Gibbo]

digital downloads.


digital downloads of games that get cheap as fuck pretty quickly.

 

[Portugeezer]

So, what's the most tempting aspect of PC gaming, in my opinion? It's not indies (Sony's stepped their game up), not MOBA/MMO (not my cup of tea), but the prospect of playing multiplats at the highest settings in sweet, sweet 1080p60.

You will need a pretty expensive rig (well, compared to a PS4) to do that next gen. But if you have the money and like PC centric games then go for it.

 

[gngf123]

So, what's the most tempting aspect of PC gaming, in my opinion? It's not indies (Sony's stepped their game up), not MOBA/MMO (not my cup of tea), but the prospect of playing multiplats at the highest settings in sweet, sweet 1080p60.

Sony's efforts are nothing compared to the library of indie games on PC. Same with Nintendo's efforts, who have also stepped up their game heavily in recent times. PC gaming has been and will continue to be the home of indie games until consoles are either entirely open, or Microsoft decide to make Windows a closed system.

PC has three big benefits in my mind: library size, price of games and higher settings.

You can pick PC games up for far less than console games, thanks to a combination of crazy sales from the likes of GMG and Steam, and the semi-regular Humble Bundles.

 

[Dario ff]

You can get 60 FPS playback on Youtube with the HTML5 player and 2x speed on the settings, although the audio is choppy. Example of Crysis 2. Obviously for videos that were slowed in half speed first.

 

[Storm360]

If you're ready to spend 1000$ on a setup then you're good to go.

Can we drop this misconception already? PC gaming can be cheap as long as you self build and budget accordingly, and you easily make back the entry fee with no online play fees and cheaper games

 

[Imp the Dimp]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/570/

Thank me later. Or loath me for ruining gaming for you, I dunno.

 

[MisterM]

You will need a pretty expensive rig (well, compared to a PS4) to do that next gen. But if you have the money and like PC centric games then go for it.

If you are considering diving in now, I'd give it a month or two to see how well next-gen ports play with PC hardware. Some reports are saying that AMD CPUs will see a boost over Intel's offerings, most aren't convinced. You can then make a well-educated decision on what hardware to buy.

And yes, the initial cost of the PC is more than a console but if you buy/play a lot of games saving around £10-30 per title soon adds up.

I'm a huge advocate of the Big Picture Mode only PC. Playing those 1080p/60 games on your HDTV, crashing back with a controller....mmm...tasty.

 

[LowEndTorque]

The start of a new console generation is the worst and most unwise time to invest in PC hardware. You should re-visit this question 3 years from now.

 

[C00kie M0nster]

Backwards compatibility (for the most part) was a big one for me.

 

[diffusionx]

Yea, if you care most about 1080p/60fps I would wait a bit. There are a few huge threads of people shocked at their brand new hardware is apparently not as future-proof as they thought it was when they bought it.

I'm looking at a new PC late next year.

Can we drop this misconception already? PC gaming can be cheap as long as you self build and budget accordingly, and you easily make back the entry fee with no online play fees and cheaper games

If he wants a PC that can play high-end games at 1080p/60fps? I think $1000 is a starting point for that right now.

 

[SparkTR]

The start of a new console generation is the worst and most unwise time to invest in PC hardware. You should re-visit this question 3 years from now.

In three years we'll have low-end cards that are three times as powerful as next gen consoles. Beyond overkill. Next year is a good time to get in.

 

[MaLDo]

I can answer a different history every day of the week.

Today, my reasons are:

Free Arkham City GOTY edition because GFWL will die.
Batman Arkham Origins for 18€ (nvidia code at ebay)
Assassins Creed IV Black Flag Special edition for 23.99€ (uplay code in one of cheaper keys online store)
GhostSong is moving beyond belief.
G-Sync is awesome tech.

Tomorrow will see.

 

[Mudcrab]

It's not indies (Sony's stepped their game up...

It's still indies, even though Sony's doing much better the vast array of indies exclusive to PC is still staggering. All it takes is one quick look and the monthly indie thread to see for yourself.

Moving on, I think one of the least talked about aspects of PC gaming is that multiplayer classics rarely ever die. Just this weekend I was playing UT2004 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein (not Enemy Territory) with friends over the internet.

 

[EsotericManiac]

just have to check it out. my brother made the switch some time ago. i didn't make the "switch" but purchasing a good video card was a big difference.

you're missing out

 

[Maxxan]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/570/

Thank me later. Or loath me for ruining gaming for you, I dunno.

Will try, since you have an awesome username =)

 

[MadSexual]

If you are considering diving in now, I'd give it a month or two to see how well next-gen ports play with PC hardware. Some reports are saying that AMD CPUs will see a boost over Intel's offerings, most aren't convinced. You can then make a well-educated decision on what hardware to buy.

This is good advice.

The start of a new console generation is the worst and most unwise time to invest in PC hardware. You should re-visit this question 3 years from now.

This isn't. There is no way PS4 is besting PC hardware for THREE SOLID YEARS. Apologies if you were being sarcastic.

Another factor worth mentioning is the significant freedom the PC platform provides for modding your games. I don't just mean Skyrim texture packs and whatnot, but I almost always make very small tweaks to ini settings that have a big effect on my enjoyment of a game. Something like manually editing FOV can be HUGE!

 

[shuri]

a 500$ rig with recycled part (monitor, case, cdrom, floppy, internal cabling, screws, etc) / os should just do just fine for the next 5 years of pc gaming.

 

[Seanspeed]

The ability to do 60fps in games locked at 30 on consoles is way better than 'max settings', which are mostly indistinguishable from 'very high' settings.

The ability to play at higher resolution is also huge. I'll be at 1080p for a couple years but once I upgrade my GPU in 2015, I'll be getting a 1440p monitor. This, combined with the framerate advantage, will make next-gen consoles seem fairly pitiful by comparison.

If you put a little money into it OP, you wont be disappointed, especially if eye candy is your priority.

 

[Blinck]

Can we drop this misconception already? PC gaming can be cheap as long as you self build and budget accordingly, and you easily make back the entry fee with no online play fees and cheaper games

Actually 1000$ is not any sort of misconception. It's the price to pay if you want a high-end PC. And we are not even talking the highest-end PC.

 

[MisterM]

a 500$ rig with recycled part (monitor, case, cdrom, floppy, internal cabling, screws, etc) / os should just do just fine for the next 5 years of pc gaming.

How's Quake 1 on 18 disks going for you?

 

[Vanguardofyourdestruction]

If you live in the US, you have access to a plethora of awesome digital download deals. So many cheap games.

 

[Seanspeed]

Actually 1000$ is not any sort of misconception. It's the price to pay if you want a high-end PC. And we are not even talking the highest-end PC.

You don't need to spend $1000 for 1080p/60fps though, unless you absolutely cant stand to play at less than max settings(which is silly). You can probably get by quite comfortably with an $800 machine or so.

 

[ThreePiMatt]

1080p is old hat. 1440p is the way to go now.

 

[MaLDo]

I tried a few months ago to create a series of videos at 1080p60 with a bunch of pc games but I ran into problems. No program succeeded creating perfectly fluid video. I tried Fraps (and discarded in 5 minutes), Dxtory and OBS.

Someone with a real great app/config combo for perfect smooth recording at 1080p60? (I save to ram disk).

Shadowplay can do 1080p60?

 

[Blinck]

You don't need to spend $1000 for 1080p/60fps though, unless you absolutely cant stand to play at less than max settings(which is silly). You can probably get by quite comfortably with an $800 machine or so.

Agreed, but the OP asked for a PC to play multiplat games ( next gen I'm assuming) at the highest settings. In this case you do need a pretty High-end PC.

a 500$ rig with recycled part (monitor, case, cdrom, floppy, internal cabling, screws, etc) / os should just do just fine for the next 5 years of pc gaming.

Wow...come on. That is a flat-out lie. Unless you have the lowest standards possible when it comes to graphics.

 

[MRORANGE]

Join us:

 

[eot]

60 fps video is not the same as a 60 fps game on a low latency monitor with high precision input (aka mouse). It feels better to play. You can still tell the difference if you're just watching but it's much less pronounced.

 

[Sethos]

Honestly, you won't get much out of watching videos in my opinion. The real difference is when you have a mouse and keyboard in your hand or whatever control method you prefer and feel how smooth 60+ frames per second is. When you sit close to a PC monitor with native output and you see all the little details, you see how beautiful a game can really look and just enjoy how crisp it is.

Also one thing that annoys me is the constant obsession with bringing down the PC to the price level of consoles. Yes you can probably scrape parts together to build a machine that roughly equates to the specs and price of the upcoming consoles but if your goal is just scraping the bottom then stick with consoles, that's what they are there for. For me, PC gaming is the best way to express your passion for the hobby, I can invest money in my machine and see an equivalent increase in my game's visual quality and framerate.

I know that's a controversial opinion but when I see people yearn for a really cheap gaming PC I wonder why they don't just stick with consoles as they offer the best ratio of power to price to user friendliness.

 

[vg260]

If you want to do some research, I'd recommend these :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQdKYZSFu2E

 

[DJIzana]

I actually cancelled my PS4 preorder recently. I realized my PC can run all of these games better but not only that... a lot of these games are being made on PC and will run the games with more features available than that of the console version.

I'll likely end up picking up a PS4 when I see more exclusives and more Japanese games announced. Whenever that may be...

Edit: I should also add PSO2 w/ English fan patch... booya! Must have for anyone that has a PC!

 

[The Janitor]

Can I tempt you with some PC screenshots of random games instead?

 

[LowEndTorque]

In three years we'll have low-end cards that are three times as powerful as next gen consoles. Beyond overkill. Next year is a good time to get in.

Exactly. Which is why it makes more sense to enjoy what the consoles have now, then put together a PC on the cheap mid-way through the console gen, rather than making an expensive investment now and banking on the hope that it will run all next gen games at 1080/60 for the next 7-8 years.

I’m guessing you’ve seen the minimum/recommended system requirements for the next gen games so far. The consoles are changing how games are optimized and it will take some time to figure out the optimal PC hardware setup for next gen games. What’s optimal for current gen games might not be optimal for next gen games.

This isn't. There is no way PS4 is besting PC hardware for THREE SOLID YEARS. Apologies if you were being sarcastic.

I don’t see the question as whether PS4 will best PC hardware for 3 years. I see it as whether an $800-$1000 PC built today will consistently run all next gen games at 1080/60 for the next 7-8 years. I have my doubts about that.

 

[MisterM]

I wouldn't recommend that anyone go for a PC with a lesser spec than mine (i5-3570/7870XT 2GB/8GB DDR3) and going by PCPartPicker that's about an $800 machine inc. Windows.

I'm sure you can get better for $800 now though.

 

[BPoole]

Find someone with a good PC and play some games on it. Watching videos just doesn't do it justice. PC games are so much more immersive since you're closer to the screen and being able to interact with everything at a more life like frame rate and not all the graphical distortions that are in console games. It's very difficult for me to switch back and forth between consoles and PC due to that

 

[fantomena]

Join the master race.

 

[chickdigger802]

The initial cost of entering pc gaming could be a bit costly (easily over a grand if you want a good rig + monitor + other stuff), but in the long term its cheaper than consoles. You really don't need to upgrade your graphics card for at least 3-4 years (but the great thing is, if you want to, you always can!) and steam/amazon/gmg sales. Having options is really the greatest positive and negative of pc gaming depends on who you ask.

 

[Dennis]

[insert screenshot]

 

[Korezo]

You need to feel the 60fps not see it. Once you play a 1080p 60fps game on pc you'll then know why it's great. I just went back to DmC right now to try the Virgil dlc I never played and damn everytime I play a pc game I am always amazed each time, but that's because I play both ps3 and pc, my eyes always re adjust to each one.

 

[shandy706]

I hate how my Youtube videos turn out once i upload them...they never look half as good as the game does on my 120hz TV (obviously)...bleh. Even if they're locked at 30 or at 60...still looks messed up on YT.

 

[eot]

I see it as whether an $800-$1000 PC built today will consistently run all next gen games at 1080/60 for the next 7-8 years. I have my doubts about that.

That's never happened and it's not likely to happen this gen.
A 2007 PC could let you play most/all current gen ports just fine, but not at 1080 and not at 60 fps for the past few years. Forget about 7-8 years.

 

[Relix]

Was a console die hard player. I had a beefy PC but I couldn't care less about gaming in it with some exceptions. I got tired of seeing Vaseline games and sub 30FPS titles... bad IQ and stuff like that. I made the jump, built a new gaming PC, connected my PC to my Home theater and 1080 LCD with HDMI... and haven't looked back except for some games and exclusives. Most of my gaming is done on PC right now. I run everything at 1080p and generally smooth frame rates with much superior IQ and effects. Mass Effect 3 at 60FPS is a much better experience. Same with Crysis 3. A world of difference. Very glad. Yes, the rig did cost me a few bucks (1200+ last year at about this date) but the PC thread we have here in GAF is fantastic.

 

[Goldmund]

Wow...come on. That is a flat-out lie. Unless you have the lowest standards possible when it comes to graphics.

It would probably get you another year or so. Say an i5 3570k and a 3GB 7950 plus some Micro ATX motherboard.

 

[ghst]

witcher 2:

assassin's creed:

MW3:

you truly belong here with us among the clouds.

 

[shandy706]

witcher 2:



assassin's creed:



MW3:



you truly belong here with us among the clouds.

LOL, is that from the "lowest settings" thread?

 

[Relix]

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Jesus fuck die in a fire. KILL IT, KILL IIIITT!