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So the bottom line here is that the PS4 is rendering 50% more pixels and still outputs a higher frame-rate and effects that are absent from the X1 version?
The PS4's softer image is the consequence of a poor choice of AA solution but in terms of raw numbers that's it right?

Yep

 

[BlazingDarkness]

lol what does this mean?

PS4 version looks more flat, the colours pop more in the Xbone version.
Whether the PS4 version is 'correct' or not doesn't really matter, just going off what I prefer to look at.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

"Sharp" is for some synonymous with good. If you look closely the PS4 version actually has more details (just look at the front of the weapon) because of the higher res.

Could you kindly highlight those details on the front of the weapon?

 

[kitch9]

Xbox One looks... darker? IMO Xbox has a better lighting but PS4 has less jaggies.

"Better lighting."

LOL.

 

[BigTnaples]

Just watched the gamespot review @60fps.

Looks fucking fantastic. Can't wait till Nov. 15th.

 

[killatopak]

How people think that the lighting on the Xbox One version is better is beyond me:

Just my first impression on a few of the gifs. That one pronounces their differences more and I could see that PS4 has a better lighting. I dunno. I'm not good at this stuff.

I think Xbox One's contrast makes it easier to hide stuff. Jaggies for the most part.

 

[something fishy]

it does seem a shame for a new gen to launch with two machines where neither are at the level of a decent pc gaming rig from day 1 though.

one is well behind the other less so but a good rig can push 1080 comfortable.

I think the days of new consoles pushing things forward are gone.

having said that, the games will still look great and there will be plenty of good exclusives.

 

[madmackem]

Go and read what I said and look at the sky textures and clothing texture and you'll see that I'm right. Lol.

Df suppose to have said things like clothing is random, fuck knows why.

 

[SparkTR]

People should head over to the last page on the PC screenshot thread to see what this game really looks like.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506297&page=325

Just don't open the link on a phone or if you pay for bandwidth.

Wait, how do those screens look better than anything in the DF article?

 

[kitch9]

PS4 version looks more flat, the colours pop more in the Xbone version.
Whether the PS4 version is 'correct' or not doesn't really matter, just going off what I prefer to look at.

The good news is every TV has image adustments, make your eyes bleed away. Either that or just set your TV to showroom mode.

You'll find that awesome.

 

[Arulan]

I'm still finding it hard to believe people prefer the "sharpness filter".

 

[Whiteshirt]

PS4 version looks more flat, the colours pop more in the Xbone version.
Whether the PS4 version is 'correct' or not doesn't really matter, just going off what I prefer to look at.

If you want to do this, go to your TV and turn up the saturation and sharpness. Done, the PS4 version will have the same colours and awful blacks as the Xbox One version.

 

[RaikuHebi]

XBone version:

Something is missing...

Hahaha. The jaggies are seriously god awful though, can't believe it's still an issue. That .gif image of the XBone unboxing where the Xbone logo at the end is pixelated is not far from the truth.

 

[kek_lel]

Looks good
especially on ps4
but damn these jaggies in the XBONE version

now show me WII U version

 

[Perkel]

PS4 version looks more flat, the colours pop more in the Xbone version.
Whether the PS4 version is 'correct' or not doesn't really matter, just going off what I prefer to look at.

and what about aliasing crawling in Xbone video which is completely evident and hurt eyes ?

 

[HocusPocus]

In these videos and images I'd take the xbox one version with an upscale to 1080p. Looks like both versions look fantastic which is good for everyone. About what I expected and the overreaction was hilarious as to the hoped differences.

 

[StuBurns]

Er...the XB1 picture looks better than the PS4 version.

Confirmation bias.

 

[bigboss370]

reposting earlier responses as rebuttal to those who think x1 version looks better.

Spoiler

really?

Perhaps the biggest takeaway is that, in this near-finalised state, the PS4 offers a superior experience on several fronts. The resolution is higher at 1600x900, as compared to the tried and tested 1280x720 on Xbox One, suffering as it does for more visible aliasing artefacts. Visually, the PS4 has a marked advantage with ambient occlusion effects too, which simply isn't matched on Microsoft's platform with the build we played.

From videogamer.com:

And with the console war heating up as we edge closer to the next-gen launch, DICE’s shooter may end up being a key factor in the war between Microsoft and Sony, with the PlayStation 4 version displaying a clear advantage over the Xbox One.

The differences between the two versions will come as great concern to Microsoft. Just as it appears to be regaining traction from its fumbling Xbox One campaign, the revelation that at least one of next-gen’s major launch titles is noticeably weaker on its console will be enough to threaten to send the platform holder back to square one. It’s difficult to tell how big a problem it may end up being until we’ve compared the complete multiplatform launch line-up it, but if the trend continues with further releases (as last week’s Call of Duty: Ghosts rumour suggests it may well do) even players heavily invested in the Xbox platform could be prompted to starting look elsewhere.

It may just be teething problems, of course, and as developers grow accustomed to working with Xbox One, issues related to native resolution may soon become a thing of the past. But that goes both ways. With the PS4 off to a stronger start, the divide between the two consoles may remain a constant as developers look to push that GDDR5 RAM and impressive GPU in ways they simply can’t on Microsoft’s console.

Yeah, I don't think anything more really needs to be said. There's a subjective point of view, and then there's technical/objective view. To me the PS4 version looks better, and that just so happens to be backed up on the technical side by....everyone. The people who played this themselves already are also saying the PS4 looks and performs better.

what more do you need? If you think X1 version looks good enough for you, that's okay.

except for the like 50% more pixels and higher framerate lol...this really cant be stated enough....

PS4
- more stable framerate
- 50%+ more pixels rendered
- better effects
- certain effects that are simply absent from the Xbone version
- better aliasing BY FAR

its doing all of those things while pushing significantly more pixels...thats A LOT of difference...

Not even close to the same.

• PS4 renders 56% more total pixels.
• Xbone renders at 720p (aka, same as the 360/PS3 versions)
• PS4 has anti-aliasing
• Xbone is missing motion blur in MP
• PS4 has HBAO (ambient occlusion)
• Even after all those advantages, PS4 runs at a higher/more stable framerate

There may be more, but that covers it for the most part, I believe.

 

[dark10x]

PS4 version looks more flat, the colours pop more in the Xbone version.
Whether the PS4 version is 'correct' or not doesn't really matter, just going off what I prefer to look at.

You do realize that you can achieve the same look in both versions, right?

The problem with the settings you see on XB1 is that, while you may like it in some scenes, it will absolutely ruin others (by eliminating all shadow detail or altering the colors incorrectly). It won't look like this on your actual XB1 by default.

That is, you buy XB1 and this game and what you see on your TV will not be what you're seeing in these shots. It will look more like the PS4/PC version.

 

[Ty4on]

That's why all X1 games are going to be 'better with Kinect'

Even then you'd need a "tiny" 30-40 inch TV at the very least

I'm more interested as to why the left and right hand side of the XO images are cropped, yet they take up the same width. Makes me wonder if something is being covered up...

Nice catch. I thought it was just the HUD differences, but they just seem to show that the cropping was even greater than it seems (PS4, XbO).

 

[BlazingDarkness]

That was in Digital Foundry's comparisons.

I just finished watching the PS4 videos JackFrags uploaded, and the PS4 version looks very colorful and not washed out.

No, it looks washed out in that Video Gamer comparison shot too.

 

[misterF]

Go and read what I said and look at the sky textures and clothing texture and you'll see that I'm right. Lol.

I think someone said that some textures were randomly generated, that's why they appear different even though it's the same scene.

edit:woops beaten by madmackem

 

[madmackem]

I think alot of people are not reading the op, DF capture is going so strange shit crushing everything to this dark sharper looking thing.

 

[rvy]

Come on, DF. Step your game up, LMAO.

 

[MikeJAMoran]

I love these threads!

I feel happy with my decision to go with PS4 as main platform, as I think there is a clear difference, even at launch, but if I had gone with Xbox One, I don't think you're going to be unhappy with it unless you're comparing it side by side!

 

[jem0208]

From Video Gamer:

In what universe does this:

look better than this:

Please enlighten me, because I'm not seeing it. Aliasing is very different in both versions.

Other than the aliasing the difference is pretty marginal. It's only noticeable if you really look for it. And to be honest hardly anyone is going to notice the differences in the middle of a battle.

 

[Metfanant]

Go and read what I said and look at the sky textures and clothing texture and you'll see that I'm right. Lol.

you mean the randomly generated camo on the uniforms? or the artificially "sharper" Xbone textures due to the wonky gamma in the DF vids?

the sky as in the dark clouds? yes, though i think the PS4's clouds look better inverted like that

Er...the XB1 picture looks better than the PS4 version.

 

[Skeff]

Especially at the poles and wires in the background, or at the gun.

The structures on the left nearly took my eye out on the XB1 version, those jaggies....

 

[cyberheater]

Df suppose to have said things like clothing is random, fuck knows why.

But it's not. PC and Xbox One versions both have the same textures.

 

[amstradcpc]

How people think that the lighting on the Xbox One version is better is beyond me:

Everything is better in the PS4 version except for a thing that ruins it all, that fucking screen filter that blurs every texture. Look at the sleeve in those pics. In the XB1 you can see the clothing pores and in the PS4 you blink your eyes as it seems you suddenly are shortsighted.

 

[Ovek]

Wait the xbone version doesn't gave any AA?! Good lord that's shoddy beyond belief.

 

[RaikuHebi]

Oh, ok.





Dude I looked at all the footage it does not look terrible. I expected texture detail to be way worse, models having less polys, all sorts of shader effects missing.

Look at those jaggies. They will be headache inducing.

 

[Guerilla]

Is there an explanation why the PS4 version looks so soft even though it's higher resolution? This is ridiculous.

 

[gofreak]

Ps4 looks slightly better IMO but certainly not worth the "omg boom! 1" type responses. XB1 buyers have nothing to worry about. At least not with this particular game.

If I was buying XB1 I'd be less worried about this game and more worried about future, next-gen multiplats, that say - run at 900p/30 or even 720p/30 on PS4.

The problematic thing for Microsoft here is that the game is showing a very real performance gap, and how that might manifest differently as games become more and more demanding.

 

[bGanci]

"Sharp" is for some synonymous with good. If you look closely the PS4 version actually has more details (just look at the front of the weapon) because of the higher res.

You are joking right? the Xbox picture the weapon is angled do you can't really see the front of the gun......That detail right?

 

[amstradcpc]

Is there an explanation why the PS4 version looks so soft even though it's higher resolution? This is ridiculous.

the upscaler must be very bad. In PC FXAA doesn´t blur so much textures.

 

[ElTorro]

Or that the ps4 shows clouds

The other versions have the same clouds, but for some reason the clouds are dark gray on the PS4 and white on XBO/PC. It's almost impossible to see them, but they are there.

 

[bob page]

Based on the footage the PS4 version clearly looks better, though some of the screen caps seem otherwise. Obviously going to trust the footage in this case but the XB1 version doesn't look bad by any means. The biggest differences will likely be most apparent on larger 1080p sets (and the framerate).

 

[StuBurns]

It won't look like this on your actual XB1 by default.

Do you know that for a fact? Because on 360, the default output is closer to PS3's 'Full' output, and results in a darker, more saturated and contrasting image, isn't it?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

"Better lighting."

LOL.

The good news is every TV has image adustments, make your eyes bleed away. Either that or just set your TV to showroom mode.

You'll find that awesome.

Why have such an attitude? Not very helpful for the discussion.

 

[SparkTR]

Is there an explanation why the PS4 version looks so soft even though it's higher resolution? This is ridiculous.

FXAA? Just a guess, but post processing AA should be banned, it's almost as bad as jaggies.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

There is a staggering difference here.

 

[Pug]

Is the videogamer video considered a decent comparison? Thats the only one I can get working here in work.

 

[madmackem]

But it's not. PC and Xbox One versions both have the same textures.

You do know how random works right, they couldve got the same one on xb1 and pc while getting a different on ps4.

 

[keit4]

Lazy developers.

 

[Quadraphonic]

Can we maybe get some X360 and PS3 screens in here? I really don't have the idea that these next gen version look that much better, which I know is obviously wrong. Just to need to see a comparison to make me feel better about next gen.

Here's a PS2 screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/FbcGCGQ.jpg

Compare to the PC:
http://abload.de/img/pc-1920x-1naq3f.jpeg

 

[Vitor711]

Is there an explanation why the PS4 version looks so soft even though it's higher resolution? This is ridiculous.

Post process AA according to DF - apparently they used a heavy version of it here.

Honestly, I don't mind FXAA at all when playing at 1080 but this looks nearly as bad as the Quincunx AA that plagued early PS3 games.

 

[Legendary_Red]

Look at those jaggies. They will be headache inducing.

Just imagine what all the millions of BF4 players on Xbox 360 and PS3 will be going through then, running a game made for 2014 hardware on 2005-6 boxes.

 

[SniperHunter]

Wow PS4 MP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG2nyFZdr1k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc4i8hARuGE

Awesome

I am sold. I will buy the pc version next year though

 

[kitch9]

Why have such an attitude? Not very helpful for the discussion.

Because its true.