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[demolitio]

Never in my life would I think the day would come when a image with no AA solution and jaggies all over the place that are so bad they look like they are fragmenting the buildings in the distance would be a preferred look because it has darker levels and sharpness turned up.

Holy hell

Clearly we didn't mentally prepare for this new generation...

It's almost as if they don't realize that same exact look could be replicated on the PS4 by adjusting their TV sets (I doubt they have to by the sounds of it) except with all the objectively (I would say higher resolution is pretty objective I'd hope) better parts of the PS4 version!

But no, we keep acting like it isn't DF's settings and that it isn't something that's a mistake that either console could do with one easy adjustment on a TV...

I'm still sitting here contemplating on the PC or PS4 version and I can't go to bed so at least I can get some good laughs in.

 

[KKRT00]

There are times when the PS4 is ~58fps and XB1 is ~42fps...

And there is time when Xbone version runs in 60 and PS4 in 48. Framerates differences are quite minimal for 60fps game in gameplay, much lower than in any COD game this gen.

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I personally expected at least difference between High and Medium and resolution cuts. Its HBAO and resolution.

 

[Metalmurphy]

OMG at the upscaler stuff, they're both AMD hardware!

It's incredible how people still think that HANAH is a game hardware scaler on the 360. Microsoft FUD works so well.

 

[TUROK]

Well that's lovely. But running a game a lower resolution creates a loss of texture detail regardless of if it's upscaled or not.

So yeah. Less detail. Way to ignore the other points by the way.

Also, having vision that doesn't suck does not make people "bitter fanboys."

Actually, yes, it does. Because to go so far as to imply that people have shitty vision just because they don't prefer what you prefer is being a bitter fanboy.

I'm not going to sit here and debate with you about every single detail about the game. I know that the PS4 version has less aliasing, a higher resolution, a higher framerate, and HBAO, but I really don't give a fuck, because at a glance, the Xbox One version is more aesthetically pleasing to my eyes.

So you can go ahead and go on about my shitty vision, and I'll keep calling you a bitter little fanboy. Or you can accept my preference just like I accept yours. Notice how I haven't given you any shit about preferring the PS4 version's looks. Notice how I have made no cracks about your vision or your "odd preference."

It's your choice. I'm good either way.

 

[slapnuts]

Even if Ps4 version looks better overall (performance, less aliasing) i expected much wider gap reading yesterday comments about Ps4 MP being better than Xbox One SP.

I have to say i0m disappointed by every next gen version,both ps4 and xbox one look pretty bad compared to PC

I think if we are to judge these next gen consoles right now...it's far better to use their exclusives as a ruler than these launch era multiplat *Cross-gen* titles like BF4 and COD. I mean just look at Ryse, Forza5 or Killzone or DriveClub...these games show better performance and PQ. I would say in a year or two multiplats will be much MUCH better optimized for these new consoles once the tools, middle-ware,etc get all the kinks ironed out and just all around better optimized tools. Right now things are still so rough that its totally unfair to even judge these multiplat cross-gen titles and compare them to the PC platform like that. Just my opinion though...

 

[Toma]

Shit, so this is what all the fuss has been about? The resolution difference is apparent but I can't say that I will care one bit to play the X1 version now that I've seen both.

Keep picking apart the screens to claim Sony superiority GAF, do what you do.

Username Quote.

 

[Darkwaknight]

Never in my life would I think the day would come when a image with no AA solution and jaggies all over the place that are so bad they look like they are fragmenting the buildings in the distance would be a preferred look because it has darker levels and sharpness turned up.

Holy hell

Blind Ignorance is bless for them man!!...A clear case of beauty in the eye of the beholder!!!

 

[Terbinator]

Please go through JackFrags videos, set the quality to 1440p on Youtube, watch both Singleplayer (Xbox One) and Multiplayer (PS4) and then come back in this thread and we'll discuss image quality.

I asked on the last page, but i can ask again - why are you/others telling people to watch a 1440p video of a 900p game?

 

[DemonNite]

Everyone needs to cool their jets. So much anger over this. If someone says something you disagree with, reply calmly with a rational post or do not reply at all. I'm up so now I'm watching you all.

you should've stayed in bed

 

[Sidewinder]

So, do we know how big the BF4 download is on PS4??

Need to know, as I'm thinking about pre-ordering it on PSN today and get the 10$ voucher.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Dat salt.

Over what ?

 

[amstradcpc]

OMG at the upscaler stuff, they're both AMD hardware!

Yes, that´s the thing. X360 upscaler was based on one of the first versions of the ATI AVIVO display engine. So, if PS4 upscaler is an actual AVIVO display engine it should be at least as good.

 

[iJudged]

Loving dat balance

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

And there is time when Xbone version runs in 60 and PS4 in 48. Framerates differences are quite minimal for 60fps game in gameplay.

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I personally expected difference between High and Medium and resolution cuts. Its HBAO and resolution.

This too. During gameplay they both trump each other at different parts. Framerate isn't even an issue here.

 

[BenC82]

Guy at Gamestop today asked me why I switched my preorder over to XB1, showed him this thread, he couldn't believe the difference, said it was day and night. *shrug* Im sure PS4 version will be ok too, just less details.

 

[John_B]

If that is true games will suffer from a bad upscaler with PS4 versions all the generation. This is important to be clarified.

Well it seems like most content on PS4 will be native and not upscaled at all. And with the failed capture from DF, and medium to poor bitrate stuff from everywhere, it would probably be wise to save the conclusions for launch.

 

[DBT85]

I asked on the last page, but i can ask again - why are you/others telling people to watch a 1440p video of a 900p game?

1440p version avoids youtubes shitty compression so you get the footage the guy uploaded.

 

[KidBeta]

And there is time when Xbone version runs in 60 and PS4 in 48. Framerates differences are quite minimal for 60fps game in gameplay, much lower than in any COD game this gen.

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I personally expected difference between High and Medium and resolution cuts. Its HBAO and resolution.

The times when they dip apart is not that often, but when they dip together the XBONE nearly always dips further.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Never in my life would I think the day would come when a image with no AA solution and jaggies all over the place that are so bad they look like they are fragmenting the buildings in the distance would be a preferred look because it has darker levels and sharpness turned up.

Holy hell

I do wonder if we now have a generation of gamer's that are fine with jaggies and bad textures. If they have been gaming on 360/PS3 for the last 8 years they will no different.

 

[Honey Bunny]

Pretty sloppy on DFs part to screw up the capture on their very first next gen comparison. A supposedly expert group bested by a youtuber with press videos?

 

[spisho]

PS3 had no hardware upscaler.

It did. A fairly bad one. Nvidia really screwed Sony last gen.

 

[Durante]

I asked on the last page, but i can ask again - why are you/others telling people to watch a 1440p video of a 900p game?

I'd assume because that's the only way to get decent bitrate on youtube.

For added points, look at some real 1440p footge of the game on PC afterwards

 

[Valnen]

PS3 had no hardware upscaler.

Yeah, this is very noticeable if you play on a PC monitor instead of a TV and own both a 360 and PS3. The scaling solution on the PS3 is very bad compared to the 360. That's why I'm hoping the PS4 has a good hardware scaler chip.

 

[Americanmushroom]

is gamersyde gonna post the REAL comparisons... ? cause these youtube vids are not what i'll have on my tv i'm pretty sure

 

[derFeef]

While making that gif, Bruce, it's kinda worthless, will still upload though

 

[Ty4on]

Oh wow that's very big one innit, no AO, lack of AA, one light shade, different texture.

Also the performance and resolution (from DF articles) seem not the same as PS4.

What the - going on with Xbox One? I thought ESRAM will do the work what PS4 can do.

33% smaller GPU and 32MB of ESRAM doing the work of high speed GPU memory. I don't think it is a coincident all higher end GPUs come with fast memory. When GDDR3 was last used in the GTX 280 Nvidia had to use a gigantic 512bit interface to keep speeds up which again resulted in a massive die. Comparison of the 280 and the 7850 which has a GPU similar to the one on the PS4 APU. Smaller dies are preferred because they are much cheaper to produce.

Noise is not texture detail. You people are crazy.

I'm trying to not get too caught up into the crap some are saying and laugh at great replies like this

It is sad though how much people value sharpness regardless of where it comes from. Hook up a PC to a TV and you'll get nasty outlines everywhere on stock settings.

 

[Duxxy3]

Guy at Gamestop today asked me why I switched my preorder over to XB1, showed him this thread, he couldn't believe the difference, said it was day and night. *shrug* Im sure PS4 version will be ok too, just less details.

Wow, you are still here.

 

[Darkwaknight]

I think if we are to judge these next gen consoles right now...it's far better to use their exclusives as a ruler than these launch era multiplat *Cross-gen* titles like BF4 and COD. I mean just look at Ryse, Forza5 or Killzone or DriveClub...these games show better performance and PQ. I would say in a year or two multiplats will be much MUCH better optimized for these new consoles once the tools, middle-ware,etc get all the kinks ironed out and just all around better optimized tools. Right now things are still so rough that its totally unfair to even judge these multiplat cross-gen titles and compare them to the PC platform like that. Just my opinion though...

This is true and also if you take into account Dice have got this out of both in less than 12 months of having final hardware...That Is a DAMN impressive show from the DICE boys and a testament to there prowess with hardware (and the sheer GRUNT of the PS4 shows clearly here)

 

[flipswitch]

Q: Is the ps4 version using a lower quality set of textures compared to the xbone?

 

[Loakum]

Guy at Gamestop today asked me why I switched my preorder over to XB1, showed him this thread, he couldn't believe the difference, said it was day and night. *shrug* Im sure PS4 version will be ok too, just less details.

sure Ben. Is this comment #2 since 2009?

 

[RaikuHebi]

I do wonder if we now have a generation of gamer's that are fine with jaggies and bad textures. If they have been gaming on 360/PS3 for the last 8 years they will no different.

I've gamed on the PS3 this whole generation (never had a gaming PC) and I'm not cool with jaggies at all, they've bugged me throughout the gen.

Though I suppose you meant average guy on the street gamer versus GAF extremist.

 

[Impeccable]

Loving dat balance

Guy at Gamestop today asked me why I switched my preorder over to XB1, showed him this thread, he couldn't believe the difference, said it was day and night. *shrug* Im sure PS4 version will be ok too, just less details.

LOL it has begun.

Seriously, this is the FIRST wave of games and the difference is actually bigger than I personally thought. People are doing to take these images and claim victory for whatever way based on visuals but the fact is staggering how much better the PS4 is.

I didn't think the difference for multi-platform games was going to be anything over this current generation of 360/PS3 but right out of the game it's already more than that. Eep.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

that blur is caused by upscaling from 900p, fxaa and youtube compression

Some posters seem to assume everyone who complains about the blur on ps4 is some clueless joe who likes sharpening and other post process crap on their tvs, or one of those philistines who use sweetfx in the screenshot thread.

The ps4 version is blurry (in the jackfrag videos, and it will be blurry on your own tv!)
please don't use the botched DF videos as damage control for the ps4 version, thanks

the xbone version is an oversharpened mess (witcher 3 PR screenshots levels of sharpening )

these two are not related in any way, no need for people to get mad when pointing either of them out.

Yeah, I'm not sure why everyone is assuming I don't know how to set up a TV lol
If I had to choose a blurry/washed out image or an image where the contrast and sharpness is turned up to a hundred, I'm gonna go with the latter.
At least I could potentially turn down the sharpness, whereas the blurriness on the PS4 is a result of the post-processing and not something I could change, right?

 

[TheD]

Yep that quote was magnificent. I just emailed it to a few friends with the subject line "bf4 meltdowns on neogaf". The responses have been great. You can just imagine him typing it out getting angrier and angrier at your opinion as he smashes the keyboard.

Grow up.

Facts are facts.

 

[nelsonroyale]

This is a pretty damn bizarre thread. Was there this much denial when comparing 360>PS3 multiplat differences? There probably was. Maybe it is just neogaf business as usual. I mean this already a bigger difference than almost any multiplat on current gen...

 

[Terbinator]

1440p version avoids youtubes shitty compression so you get the footage the guy uploaded.

But it also isn't the 900p/1080p output from the game itself unless there is someway to trick YT into allowing a higher bit-rate whilst maintaining 1080p images?

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Although it's a load of bollocks anyway given 30FPS and the shitty compression no matter your upload.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Q: Is the ps4 version using a lower quality set of textures compared to the xbone?

That's what I noticed in just about every comparison video.

 

[Durante]

Q: Is the ps4 version using a lower quality set of textures compared to the xbone?

A: no.

 

[bigol]

The vids probably have the best IQ so far:

PS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RJ...ew-vl&list=PL3Z0xw5JKEcnd5rG1o6due-Lv48ItghDT

Xbone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ycN0re_5A&feature=youtu.be&t=3m34s

Differences are readily apparent when at 1440p in my opinion

Just watched this.
Xbox One version is really full of aliasing and jaggies while ps4 version is softer but cleaner overall

 

[satam55]

So, do we know how big the BF4 download is on PS4??

Need to know, as I'm thinking about pre-ordering it on PSN today and get the 10$ voucher.

Battlefield 4 PS4 install size is 34.9GB

 

[TUROK]

Yep that quote was magnificent. I just emailed it to a few friends with the subject line "bf4 meltdowns on neogaf". The responses have been great. You can just imagine him typing it out getting angrier and angrier at your opinion as he smashes the keyboard.

I don't understand how people actually get personally invested in this.

I'd totally understand if I was saying things that were factually incorrect, like saying the Xbox One version has higher res textures or better shaders, or whatever, but everyone's blowing a gasket because I like the way the Xbox One version looks more.

It's funny as fuck, though.

 

[dr_rus]

So obviously PS4 is incapable of setting the same contrast value as XBO. XBO wins, PS4 looses.
But in all seriousness I can't even fathom how this can happen unless someone is doing something with the capture footage.

 

[stonesak]

Q: Is the ps4 version using a lower quality set of textures compared to the xbone?

No, exact same textures.

 

[Americanmushroom]

Guy at Gamestop today asked me why I switched my preorder over to XB1, showed him this thread, he couldn't believe the difference, said it was day and night. *shrug* Im sure PS4 version will be ok too, just less details.

Dat 720p oversaturated sharpness.

 

[xkramz]

Xbone version not having any clouds is an amazing troll by DICE

They actually do. Same cloud on both console actually, only difference is ps4 cloud is colored in dark at some places.

 

[Steiner84]

i think we need clarification regarding the upscaler on PS4.

Will it get better software wise over firmware updates?
can one maybe turn it off?
or will it just be shite again?

shu, step in for rescue!

 

[Metfanant]

ive posted this earlier...but here is the GLARING thing that literally everyone in the "Xbone looks better" camp is missing...

EVERY.SINGLE.PERSON...that was at this event and has written a review of the two versions of the game has said one thing...

when you play them both on a TV the PS4 is hands down the better version....some even going as far as saying the PS4 MP looks better than the Xbone SP....

its not too often you get the gaming press to universally agree on something...but the undisputed consensus is that when playing the games back to back everything about the PS4 version is better...

 

[Bundy]

I like the Xbox One version better. It's has more truthiness.

So your truthiness is:
Xbone version only 1280x720
PS4 version with a 50% lead in output pixels overall
PS4 regaining 60fps, Xbone not.
Xbone with framerate issues
Xbone with aliasing issues
Xbone "only a stone's throw from the sub-720p resolution" / "highly noticeable sub-pixel break-up"

?
Cool!

 

[twobear]

LOL it has begun.

Seriously, this is the FIRST wave of games and the difference is actually bigger than I personally thought. People are doing to take these images and claim victory for whatever way based on visuals but the fact is staggering how much better the PS4 is.

I didn't think the difference for multi-platform games was going to be anything over this current generation of 360/PS3 but right out of the game it's already more than that. Eep.

We've known for a long time that the difference would be larger than PS3 and 360.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Yeah, the bottom version has AO, AA, a higher res and more detail.

Yes, it has all that, which makes it technically better than the Xbone version. But it's also hella blurry so most of that is lost - I can't even make some of the textures out.