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So Target shipped someone an Xbox One already? [Update: console-banned until launch]
- Thread starter CrunchinJelly
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yup, didn't think it was a good idea
Do we know this for certain?
BruiserBear
Banned
Posts like this are making my brain hurt. As if we all need to think carefully before getting a product we bought legally online. Serious business.
So its common sense to ban people for daring to unexpectedly get a console shipped early, and play it as it was designed to be?
Your argument is nonsensical.
UberTag
Member
"You bought your Xbox One at Target? Why on Earth would you shop there?"
Typical M$ trying to control everything. Stuff like this is going to happen in this day and age. They need to learn how to make a positive spin on it. The guy was clearly excited to get it early and basically promoted the console for free. You don't treat your fans this way.
Why are people surprised? MS have been perma-banning people for minor stuff all generation long. I have no sympathy to be honest. If Amazon shipped my PS4 early, I'd honest to god not touch it until the 29th. I really do mean that, spending £380 on a console is enough of an incentive to not risk getting banned for using it early.
You don't actually know that, Microsoft has not commented on it, that is a conclusion drawn by the verge and may or may not be correct, all we know is that a video was removed for a copyright claim and his console was banned, there is no evidence of causality.
Even if there was, uploading to youtube should not be a bannable offense, he isn't breaking ToS or NDA.
If you get one 2 weeks before it's pubically available it wouldn't hurt. Not like the option of asking MS if it was ok for you to use given the situation was unavailable.
Talking about Xbox live in this respect.
How is that even a reason?
Black Mantis
Member
Pretty much. In the Verge article, it states another user who got one early, was told by Microsoft he could use it.
Because reasons
BruiserBear
Banned
I would bet money Sony would not ban a customer if the exact same thing happened with a PS4.
In 2008 I stumbled upon a store selling Killzone 2 a week early. Did I consider for even a second that I shouldn't play that game when I got it home? No. Because there is no reason I should be worried. I did nothing wrong, and nothing happened.
How is this not punishment? He has to waste his time because someone else fucked up?
Why are people defending such anti consumer policies?
entremet
Member
People say this but they continue using stuff like Windows. If you can't stand a company, put your money where your mouth is.
Uno Venova
Banned
Continuing to fall on their sword after banning paying customers who got your console or game early, attempting to take away those same paying customers consumer rights. Yeah I've seen less dedication to actual family members.
I don't think Sony is dumb enough to do those kinds of bans.
Exactly! If he legally bought a system because of a mistake that wasn't his fault...that's bull shit. He bought it, paid his money for an item. He didn't sign any fucking NDAs to not reveal anything until release date. Microsoft can go suck my dick if this is what they think they can do to consumers.
Omg...I forgot about that shit. I knew there was a reason I hated origin, and you reminded me of it.
UberTag
Member
The exact same thing happened with a Vita and no bans happened at all. There's established precedent.
no it didnt, it had to go online to have any functionality at all, by penellos own statement it can do "nothing"
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
Oh wow, the console got banned? What are you doing Microsoft...
Sony would take out the retailer. Like Lik Sang.
I don't have a problem with people wanting something I don't.
I'm not insulting anyone for buying a car, tv, music cd, film, t-shirt, jeans, etc... that I don't want to buy nor have an interest in.
I have a problem with people buying a product from a company that is actively trying to screw their costumers and whatever they place their cancerous paws (this case the videogame industry) in. Because those people do affect my hobby. They are the reason I now have to shell extra money on a game I bought to get something that is locked in the game I bought and to play a mode on the game I bought.
I couldn't care less what you do or planned to do with your money if it didn't affect me too.
But unfortunately it does affect me. So, no I don't pity idiots who get banned for something they shouldn't have been when the company that banned them is that anti-consumer cesspool that is Microsoft.
You know what you bought and you know who you're dealing with.
In the words of Adam Orth. DEALWITHIT.
It does amaze me how you're not paid by microsoft seeing how disgustingly pro you are about everything they do.
Oh right.
Well I suppose getting banned for posting videos of it early is a lot more understandable than being banned for playing.
velociraptor
Junior Member
I haven't followed the thread but I assume he posted YT videos of his Xbox? That's what got his console banned?
Fucking ridiculous either way.
This is the same company that banned a dude for living in Ft Gay, WV.
http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-bans-xbox-live-user-for-living-in-fort-gay-183390.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-bans-xbox-live-user-for-living-in-fort-gay-183390.phtml
Using a OS is different.
Besides most people here use windows for PC gaming. What can you do? Switch and mac and lose 98% of the games you bought on steam?
entremet
Member
Lik Sang was a small internet retailer.
They won't do anything to a huge retailer like Target, especially if it was a mistake.
Black Mantis
Member
Jesus people, just read the article from Verge. If you receive an X1 early, MS will NOT ban you from using it.
"Another gamer who received a console from an online order claims he has talked to Microsoft and the company has "said its mine to do with as I please."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/9/5083780/xbox-one-early-pre-order-deliveries
"Another gamer who received a console from an online order claims he has talked to Microsoft and the company has "said its mine to do with as I please."
http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/9/5083780/xbox-one-early-pre-order-deliveries
test_account
XP-39C²
I've been reading through the Xbox Live TOS now (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/livetou) and i cant find anything about using the console before release date. The only thing i found is this:
"We may, among other things: (i) restrict or limit access to the Services; (ii) retrieve information from the Authorized Device and any connected peripheral device used to log onto the Services as necessary to operate and protect the security of the Services, and to enforce this Agreement; and (iii) upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Services, or any hardware or software associated with the Services or with an Authorized Device, from time to time without notice. We may do so by the automatic download of related software directly to your Authorized Device, including software that prevents you from accessing the Services, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices."
It is very general/vague though.
"We may, among other things: (i) restrict or limit access to the Services; (ii) retrieve information from the Authorized Device and any connected peripheral device used to log onto the Services as necessary to operate and protect the security of the Services, and to enforce this Agreement; and (iii) upgrade, modify, withdraw, suspend, or discontinue any functionality or feature of the Services, or any hardware or software associated with the Services or with an Authorized Device, from time to time without notice. We may do so by the automatic download of related software directly to your Authorized Device, including software that prevents you from accessing the Services, playing pirated games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices."
It is very general/vague though.
If Microsoft could just flip a switch and turn xbl of until the 22 would that be a problem? He may have received his console early and good for him, but nobody said Microsoft has to provide him access to xbl until the 22.
But they can't just turn off live because presumably there are preview consoles out there that should be allowed to connect. If only they had a way letting some consoles connect while preventing others.. wait that's exactly what they did.
If he's still banned in the 22 then I'll think something is wrong.
But they can't just turn off live because presumably there are preview consoles out there that should be allowed to connect. If only they had a way letting some consoles connect while preventing others.. wait that's exactly what they did.
If he's still banned in the 22 then I'll think something is wrong.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
So, it's ok for two paid shills to play the "definitive version" of FIFA 14 on YouTube, but a guy who buys an Xbone and posts on YouTube is suddenly a threat to the Xbox brand and they ban him? How is posting a YouTube video a banable offense?
Oppo
Member
MS launching a copyright claim on YouTube against the guy after banning his console is adding insult to injury, not providing justification!
RedNumberFive
Banned
Pro tip: Only carefully curated videos that stay on message are allowed next gen.
Claiming copyright on the youtube content is one thing. I don't think that is why they could ban his account, though. He didn't sign any NDAs and he used hardware that he rightfully purchased.
A consumer who doesn't pay attention to launch details could simply guess that they have moved the launch day since he received his console early.
I hope it's a temporary ban until the 22nd. Anything else would be extremely stupid.
A consumer who doesn't pay attention to launch details could simply guess that they have moved the launch day since he received his console early.
I hope it's a temporary ban until the 22nd. Anything else would be extremely stupid.
Oh shit. GAF would never come back. We'd ho out in a blaze of glory. It's the equivalent to flying into the sun, or riding an atomic bomb.
intheinbetween
Member
you shouldn't bet on that, you never know.
MS should have disabled any attempt to log on to Live to end-users until the 29th, that would have made more sense