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[iceatcs]

Not bad, they have cutted 66% time if using standby.

 

[The Mana Legend]

When installing Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen on my PS3 the other day, it took 8 (EIGHT, VIII) HOURS to go from 89% to 100%.

So 30 seconds means nothing after the shit ton of time I've had to wait to do ANYTHING on the PS3.

 

[mekes]

Pre-ordering my 10 second sandwich.

Good one, nice to see a change from the usual cancelling of pre-orders

 

[Ulumsk]

Not great, but 30 seconds from cold boot is not that bad either. Let's just hope suspend mode gets patched in soon.

 

[Joe White]

People are only going to need to cold boot once in a blue moon I'd imagine.

More often than you would think. In our setup, the consoles will always be cold booted because the TV is set as master of living room and no other device will receive power when it's not turned on. So, the boot time from no power state is an important metric for us.

But I fear that cold boot time will be small issue compared to patches and such.

 

[Fabrik]

Complaining about this is nitpicking really.
That said the bias is strong here, on Wii U it was unacceptable, on PS4 it's not that bad.
Pathetic.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Complaining about this is nitpicking really.
That said the bias is strong here, on Wii U it was unacceptable, on PS4 it's not that bad.
Pathetic.

What was unacceptable on the Wii U was that every time you opened something it would take 30 seconds to close when I hit the home button, heck even going to the settings and then backing out to the homepage it would take forever. Don't compare a console that only does it once on start up to a console that had a 10-30 sec delay each time you clicked on something. People had a right to be pissed off about it.

 

[Quasar]

Looking forward to hearing what ssd cold boot times are like.

 

[neodeano]

What was unacceptable on the Wii U was that every time you opened something it would take 30 seconds to close when I hit the home button, heck even going to the settings and then backing out to the homepage it would take forever. Don't compare a console that only does it once on start up to a console that had a 10-30 sec delay each time you clicked on something. People had a right to be pissed off about it.

Indeed. Boot time was the least of it's problems. Wii U owner here.

 

[nowheretorun]

Quoting this again for good measure.

You sir, have won the thread.

I'm interested in how quicker boot time is from Standby and how much power is used in Standby?

I'm from Scotland!

 

[Massa]

Title change seems appropriate. It does suspend resume power and functionality.

No, it doesn't. Booting from stand-by mode will take the same 30 seconds.

 

[nib95]

Yes, people are conflating a lot of terms here. To be clear:

Stand By: This is a low power state the PS4 goes into when you are not using it. It is equivalent to sleeping your PC or turning off the screen on your iPhone or tablet. While in this mode the PS4 can still ping your internet connection, download patches, firmware updates or games you've bought remotely through the website or phone app. Stand by will be available at launch.

Multitasking: This is the ability to switch to a different app without having to close a running game. It's like alt-tabbing out of a game on your PC, or hitting the home button on a Vita to check twitter or open the web browser. The game state is preserved exactly so when you switch back you are in exactly the same place and can keep going. PS4 can do this at launch, and even has a feature that lets you double click the PS button to quickly switch between the game and the last app you used.

Suspend/Resume: This is the ability to suspend a game you are playing and put the PS4 into Stand By mode without having to save so the next time you wake up the PS4 you can immediately start playing where you left off without having to relaunch the game or load a save. Like the multitasking feature above it would perfectly preserve your game state even while the system is in the low powered Stand By mode. This is what WILL NOT be available at launch.

And to reiterate - Cold Boot: This is the time it take for your system to boot into the OS from a no power state. You will only experience this the first time you plug in the PS4 and (presumably) whenever a firmware update needs to be installed. In normal use you will be using the Stand By mode to turn your PS4 "off". As such it's not that important how long it takes, just like no one worried about how long a cold boot takes on an iPhone or iPad. If you are experiencing a cold boot it's because the power was inadvertently interrupted, updating the operating system, or recovering from a system crash.

Great post.

 

[R3TRO]

Great post.

Not really, needs more explosions.

 

[nib95]

No, it doesn't. Booting from stand-by mode will take the same 30 seconds.

How do you know this? Not saying it couldn't be the case but OP mentions nothing about booting from stand-by mode, only that it takes 30 seconds to start from a cold boot.

 

[Fabrik]

What was unacceptable on the Wii U was that every time you opened something it would take 30 seconds to close when I hit the home button, heck even going to the settings and then backing out to the homepage it would take forever. Don't compare a console that only does it once on start up to a console that had a 10-30 sec delay each time you clicked on something. People had a right to be pissed off about it.

Exaggeration. It wasn't that slow. The Setting menu was the slowest and it wasn't 30s. Still the outrage was overblown.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Exaggeration. It wasn't that slow. The Setting menu was the slowest and it wasn't 30s. Still the outrage was overblown.

I own the system, it's a million times better now, it was that slow. There should be no wait between going into the settings of hardware and then backing out. Here's the wait in video form about 30s to enter and 30 to back out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXDq3b4QpcQ

 

[Drencrom]

Complaining about this is nitpicking really.
That said the bias is strong here, on Wii U it was unacceptable, on PS4 it's not that bad.
Pathetic.

You really shouldn't generalize posters sentiments in a thread like that, an immature display.

 

[DemonNite]

30 seconds in Banderas time

 

[coldfoot]

Did Sony say when resume was coming?

 

[WordsintheWater]

30 seconds in Banderas time

If I saw that every time I booted up before the Playstation logo comes on the screen it would make the wait much better haha

 

[Prince Vultan]

I've never used the phrase "first world problems"... but...

 

[Impeccable]

Thankfully, I don't cold boot every day several times a day.

 

[WordsintheWater]

Did Sony say when resume was coming?

Not a solid date, I think they said that it would be in the first patch they put out though, after 1.5 of course.

 

[Fabrik]

I own the system, it's a million times better now, it was that slow. There should be no wait between going into the settings of hardware and then backing out. Here's the wait in video form about 30s to enter and 30 to back out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXDq3b4QpcQ

Again it was the Setting menu. Who cares? You barely had to go there.

You really shouldn't generalize posters sentiments in a thread like that, an immature display.

Have a look at the first page.

 

[BigTnaples]

We have already seen Guerrilla Games say from start up to actually playing Killzone is like 20 seconds.


(Can't find tweet I am on my phone)

Who cold boots anymore?

 

[jerry1594]

That's like an entire lifetime. I can't imagine what life was like when people had to wait 30 seconds for things.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Oh, God, what am I going to do for those 30 seconds?!

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( I can't find it but I know it was posted on GAF)

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

 

[WordsintheWater]

Again it was the Setting menu. Who cares? You barely had to go there.



Have a look at the first page.

Settings menu was the worst, but everything you clicked on had a long wait. Anyways I don't want to derail the thread any longer Wii U's OS problems when it launched are well documented.

 

[DBT85]

I shall boot from cold exactly once. Unless I've moved the console.

Show me the standby boot time.

 

[Stimpack]

Aren't we going to throw better hard drives in it anyway? 5400 is a damn joke.

 

[xBuTcHeRx]

Oh no 30 seconds of my life to boot a console? Booooooo!!
Seriously though, future updates will make it more optimized and SSD's will shave seconds off of that.

 

[News Bot]

Power wank.

 

[Vorg]

A whole 10 seconds more than the ps3. This is an outrage.

 

[nib95]

I shall boot from cold exactly once. Unless I've moved the console.

Show me the standby boot time.

I'd imagine stand-by boot time will be significantly quicker. Just a hunch. Otherwise there's like...you know...no point having it lol. Defeats the whole purpose.

But yea, this sounds promising...assuming this is from XMB.

I believe GG said it was 15 seconds from XMB to actual gaming. Which is pretty damn impressive.

 

[doemaaan]

30 seconds in Banderas time

All of a sudden, 30 seconds don't seem so bad anymore.

EDIT: I just booted my slim and it took 28 seconds . Didn't know it took that long. I think I can handle 30.

 

[Drencrom]

Have a look at the first page.

Not all people thought this 30 sec cold boot thing was a big deal, so what? Are these the same people that harked on the Wii U UI being slow or whatever? I don't think 'calling out' random people for being hypocritical just because these news weren't met with the same amount of venom as the 'WiiU UI' thing is a great idea or adds anything to the conversation. If you're gonna call out people or someone for bias or whatever point at specific posters that may actually be bound to your accusation, not just calling people with another sentiment 'pathetic'.

 

[Nebula]

Time to get up and make a cuppa.

 

[Sendou]

30 seconds was too much on Wii U and it is too much for any console. That said I'm not particularly conserned.

 

[twobear]

Press the PS button on the controller, turn the TV on, go and make a cup of tea and grab some toast, then come back.

 

[DBT85]

I'd imagine stand-by boot time will be significantly quicker. Just a hunch. Otherwise there's like...you know...no point having it lol. Defeats the whole purpose.

But yea, this sounds promising...assuming this is from XMB.

I believe GG said it was 15 seconds from XMB to actual gaming. Which is pretty damn impressive.

No doubt boot from standby will be faster, possibly sub 10s.

And I do believe GG said about 2.5 mins for the first boot to actually playing (I imagine masked with a video), and 15s for subsequent boots.

 

[Massa]

How do you know this? Not saying it couldn't be the case but OP mentions nothing about booting from stand-by mode, only that it takes 30 seconds to start from a cold boot.

Sony said the PS4 doesn't support suspend and resume, why are people assuming it does?

Stand-by doesn't save state at all, it simply powers some very basic functions.

 

[ЯAW]

nvm. thread moves fast.

 

[Hagi]

30 seconds isn't that bad, it'll likely improve over time.

Complaining about this is nitpicking really.
That said the bias is strong here, on Wii U it was unacceptable, on PS4 it's not that bad.
Pathetic.

What's pathetic are whiny generalizing posts like this. Confront actual people if you have an issue. This kind of post appears far too often in console threads.

 

[spwolf]

I just timed my PS3, it was fast and it took 23s.

 

[Spawnling]

A whole 10 seconds more than the ps3. This is an outrage.

 

[rdrr gnr]

Calling BS. My apologies if true, not sure how you are getting through POST so quickly. Just saw a video on youtube and he is getting around 8-10. How are you skipping POST?

You go from a power off state to OS in eight seconds?

My Win 7 on SSD even with an eliminated splash screen takes 20-30.

I'm running Win 8.1 on a decent laptop (SSD) and it takes about 10-12 seconds to get to my desktop.

 

[Lion]

I will do stretches and exercise in those 30 seconds.

Killer feature Sony, definitely the best way to stay fit and do gaming.

 

[Succinct Verbosity]

I sat around for four minutes waiting for The Last of Us to load and the pay-off was worth it.

 

[Grieves]

This fits in with my routine.

Normally, I'd switch on my console then go and have a smoke and grab myself a drink. Console ready for me on my return.

When I started gaming (on a BBC B), programs got loaded up from a tape deck. "Elite" would take 5 minutes to load. If part of the program did not load, I'd have to completely rewind the tape and start again.

30 for boot I can live with.

 

[GameAddict411]

Holy shit. 30 seconds?

Shinobi can post 5 new threads in that time!

you weren't lying there lol, OT: it's really not something of a concern to me, i just hope they release the quick resume feature very soon.