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Game Informer: PS4's boot time makes us eager for 'suspend & resume'

Thread title makes it sound like the PS4 takes 5 minutes to boot up, but no - it takes 30 seconds.

30 seconds.
 
Massa said:
Sony said the PS4 doesn't support suspend and resume, why are people assuming it does?

Stand-by doesn't save state at all, it simply powers some very basic functions.
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Erm, standdy-mode still has to have many of the UI and standard functions pre-loaded, or at least available on the fly. That's why it's common sensical to assume boot from stand-by is going to be far quicker than a cold boot. That's one of the main reasons stand-by modes on products even exist.

You're not being at all logical here.
 
SJRB said:
Thread title makes it sound like the PS4 takes 5 minutes to boot up, but no - it takes 30 seconds.

30 seconds.
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The main thing is getting into games is far quicker now compared to the PS3. 30 seconds isn't too bad at all. I think my PC with a SSD drive takes about 25 seconds from a cold boot and I'm very used to that.
 
Man why does everything always sound so doom & gloom.

I came in here thinking this is going to be bad, Sony dun fucked up.

Then I read the issue is 30 seconds, that's it? pffft
 
Grieves said:
This fits in with my routine.

Normally, I'd switch on my console then go and have a smoke and grab myself a drink. Console ready for me on my return.

When I started gaming (on a BBC B), programs got loaded up from a tape deck. "Elite" would take 5 minutes to load. If part of the program did not load, I'd have to completely rewind the tape and start again.

30 for boot I can live with.
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Reminds me of:
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I'll just turn on the console,then the tv (and en find out that it's like x360 in that it won't actually boot if connected via hdmi until the tv is on)
 
Damn, that sucks. 30 seconds! I thought the PS3 boot time was long, but that was only 20 seconds? Felt a lot longer. That's a shame. Hopefully suspend and resume isn't too far away
 
TEH DRAMA! Preorders canceled! Next on PackAttack: "Can Sony recover from the boottime fiasco?" Spoileranswer: No they cannot, this a KO.
 
Lol, thread title had me thinking the worst.

I wish someone would at least post how the console boots up, maybe those excruciating 30 second are pretty.
 
nib95 said:
Erm, standdy-mode still has to have many of the UI and standard functions pre-loaded, or at least available on the fly. That's why it's common sensical to assume boot from stand-by is going to be far quicker than a cold boot. That's one of the main reasons stand-by modes on products even exist.

You're not being at all logical here.
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we don't know that. With Sony saying that suspend/resume is coming later, it may mean that the console doesn't have a 'sleep' mode yet. It may simply power down into standby like the current PS3. So you can wake it with a press of the PS button, or it can wake up to download patches etc, but when you turn it on it'll still have to load most things up.

We do not know yet.

Xbox has three power states - on, standby (can be woken with kinect, TV passthrough works etc), and low power mode (like current 360). We do not know the equivalent on PS4, we're just assuming right now.

I can imagine it being like this (speculation)

on - ok
suspended - dashboard and game in sleep mode (not currently supported)
standby - like PS3 now
 
If it just looped the Playstation 1 startup sound the entire time I'd be fine with it.
 
It takes 12 seconds for my Samsung Plasma to warm up and start accepting input commands; add in AVR startup time and input switching... sounds to me like 30 seconds is perfect!
 
30 seconds to play a game for an hour or more?

Are we losing perspective of what's important these days, or is it just slow news day?
 
Fooking hell, 30 seconds. Enough time to go make my dinner, right?

If I can put up with how slow my 360 is at booting up I'll be ok with this.
 
mrklaw said:
we don't know that. With Sony saying that suspend/resume is coming later, it may mean that the console doesn't have a 'sleep' mode yet. It may simply power down into standby like the current PS3. So you can wake it with a press of the PS button, or it can wake up to download patches etc, but when you turn it on it'll still have to load most things up.

We do not know yet.

Xbox has three power states - on, standby (can be woken with kinect, TV passthrough works etc), and low power mode (like current 360). We do not know the equivalent on PS4, we're just assuming right now.

I can imagine it being like this (speculation)

on - ok
suspended - dashboard and game in sleep mode (not currently supported)
standby - like PS3 now
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Well, I value your opinion on such matters, so I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm hoping boot from stand-by will be quicker. If not I'll be disappointed. I mean, it's not a massive issue, but every second counts!
 
Brad Grenz said:
Yes, people are conflating a lot of terms here. To be clear:

Stand By: This is a low power state the PS4 goes into when you are not using it. It is equivalent to sleeping your PC or turning off the screen on your iPhone or tablet. While in this mode the PS4 can still ping your internet connection, download patches, firmware updates or games you've bought remotely through the website or phone app. Stand by will be available at launch.

Multitasking: This is the ability to switch to a different app without having to close a running game. It's like alt-tabbing out of a game on your PC, or hitting the home button on a Vita to check twitter or open the web browser. The game state is preserved exactly so when you switch back you are in exactly the same place and can keep going. PS4 can do this at launch, and even has a feature that lets you double click the PS button to quickly switch between the game and the last app you used.

Suspend/Resume: This is the ability to suspend a game you are playing and put the PS4 into Stand By mode without having to save so the next time you wake up the PS4 you can immediately start playing where you left off without having to relaunch the game or load a save. Like the multitasking feature above it would perfectly preserve your game state even while the system is in the low powered Stand By mode. This is what WILL NOT be available at launch.

And to reiterate - Cold Boot: This is the time it take for your system to boot into the OS from a no power state. You will only experience this the first time you plug in the PS4 and (presumably) whenever a firmware update needs to be installed. In normal use you will be using the Stand By mode to turn your PS4 "off". As such it's not that important how long it takes, just like no one worried about how long a cold boot takes on an iPhone or iPad. If you are experiencing a cold boot it's because the power was inadvertently interrupted, updating the operating system, or recovering from a system crash.
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This honestly can't be quoted enough. People need to realize the difference between cold boot and wake-from-sleep.
 
neorej said:
TEH DRAMA! Preorders canceled! Next on PackAttack: "Can Sony recover from the boottime fiasco?" Spoileranswer: No they cannot, this a KO.
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Calm down. No one is saying that. It's just a HUGE disappointment that the boot time is 50% longer than that of the PS3. This is next gen, innit?!
 
why are people complaining about a 30 second boot time when we have the instant standby mode available?

EDIT: change the tread title, it's making people jump to conclusions
 
meh, pretty much assumed this when they announced no suspend/resume at launch.

far from ideal.. but really it takes my TV like 20 seconds (or more) to clear away the info banner when it turns on... and Wii U is like probably 20ish seconds from boot to main menu (after user select). So yeah.. not the end of the world but I will love when suspend/resume comes.

maxcer0081 said:
why are people complaining about a 30 second boot time when we have the instant standby mode available?

EDIT: change the tread title, it's making people jump to conclusions
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not available at launch. coming in a later firmware.
 
My 3ds takes forever to boot up if I have it turned completely off but if it is just suspended then it turns on fast. Why would it be any different for the ps4?
 
My MacBook Pro goes from cold boot to totally loaded desktop in ~9 seconds. Pretty sure iPad is faster. WELCOME TO 2013 SONY.

Wii U was slaughtered on these boards for slowness.
 
How i do boot up my PS3 or my PC for that matter:

Boot it up.
Leaves the room to get something, like a drink or a snack.
I sit down in front of the tv/PC and everything is good to go.
 
Futureman said:
My MacBook Pro goes from cold boot to totally loaded desktop in ~9 seconds. Pretty sure iPad is faster. WELCOME TO 2013 SONY.

Wii U was slaughtered on these boards for slowness.
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No way. iOS devices are crazy slow (relatively). Granted I have a 3rd gen ipad right now, but even my 5s is a noticeable length of time.

yup, just tested my 5s. 35 seconds.
 
Disappointing, but nothing major. Guess I'll have to do the same thing as I do now. Just press the PS Button to start it, then grab a quick drink or something
 
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