No. That's a disingenuous assertion and you know it.Both cheating, move along everyone.
Most people that use hacked Pokemon only hack Pokemon into the game that are indistinguishable from Pokemon that you can get normally, just with far more grinding involved.Not a fucking clue, teach me!
Put them on the same plane is all I ask. Cheating to get Pokemon? Might as well cheat to win too.No. That's a disingenuous assertion and you know it.
The fact that both of them are a form of cheating is not in dispute.
The online battle exploit method gives you full access to your opponent's team. EVs, natures, moves, item choices... that alone is pretty ridiculous, but the exploit even tells you your opponents move after they make it.
I shouldn't have to explain why this is a problem.
Different planes, one is an equaliser, one is not.Put them on the same plane is all I ask. Cheating to get Pokemon? Might as well cheat to win too.
This is such a stupid statement I don't even know how to respond to it other than by calling it a really stupid statement.Put them on the same plane is all I ask. Cheating to get Pokemon? Might as well cheat to win too.
Oh, yeah, I guess you can say that legit people are on a higher level than those that cheat.Different planes, one is an equaliser, one is not.
What's the point of cheating for Pokemon when you might lose?This is such a stupid statement I don't even know how to respond to it other than by calling it a really stupid statement.
No, seriously, what are you talking about?What's the point of cheating for Pokemon when you might lose?
You... you can't be serious.Put them on the same plane is all I ask. Cheating to get Pokemon? Might as well cheat to win too.
No, seriously, what are you talking about?
Gosh I am sick of the Pokemon cheaters. It's absolutely depressing how far they go to ruin the game when they can't just rely on bullshit RNGing and ARs.
But if complete "hacking" of a Pokemon was possible in this generation, this program would be okay?
What? This program would never be okay. What are you even talking about?
No work, no feeling.and it feels like we've had our work undermined by this stupid program.
That sentence makes about as much sense as saying, "If you could breathe underwater, would you use an airplane?"But if complete "hacking" of a Pokemon was possible in this generation, this program would be okay?
But if complete "hacking" of a Pokemon was possible in this generation, this program would be okay?
You can't see my angle, and probably don't want to anyways.That sentence makes about as much sense as saying, "If you could breathe underwater, would you use an airplane?"
I'm sorry you don't think I can read and comprehend English.I'm not quite sure you fully comprehend what it is that this program allows for
No.But if complete "hacking" of a Pokemon was possible in this generation, this program would be okay?
You can't see my angle, and probably don't want to anyways.I'm sorry you don't think I can read and comprehend English.
Your angle is that jaywalking and murder are on an "equal plane" because they're both illegal.You can't see my angle, and probably don't want to anyways.
Your angle is that jaywalking and murder are on an "equal plane" because they're both illegal.
ruins gamePeople only cry out if it does not benefit them. Instacheck? Hey, I get cheat the system to get shiny Pokemon! Cloning? Hey, I can produce infinite value without any exchange. Battle Analyzer? Hey, I could guarantee wins... but my morals stop here. Battles are off limits, nopenopenope. Those users are the devil. You can battle me with your cheated Pokemon, but you can't cheat during the battle.
So, what happens when two people who use this program fight each other? Do they just wait in a deadlock for the opponent to make a move?
Anybody is allowed to do whatever they want in their games as long as it doesn't affect other people. I am not sure how you cannot tell the difference between "cheat that makes online battles unusable" vs "cheat that affects the battle in no way whatsoever"So battles are sacred, but collecting isn't. Okay.
But it does affect me. My Pokemon are worthless because people can create something out of nothing. I have to be at the mercy of people that are kind enough to give them away.Anybody is allowed to do whatever they want in their games as long as it doesn't affect other people. I am not sure how you cannot tell the difference between "cheat that makes online battles unusable" vs "cheat that affects the battle in no way whatsoever"
But it does affect me. My Pokemon are worthless because people can create something out of nothing. I have to be at the mercy of people that are kind enough to give them away.
Lets not focus on pure IV Pokemon. Lets include Legendaries/ items/ even shiny Pokemon to an extent.You can breed Pokemon with the same IV's as any hacked Pokemon. Nothing is stopping you.
Lets not focus on pure IV Pokemon. Lets include Legendaries/ items/ even shiny Pokemon to an extent.
Why are your Pokemon worthless? Why are they worth something now? I literally just give my Pokemon away right now and there are no hacks. I received Pokemon for free before and they weren't hacked.But it does affect me. My Pokemon are worthless because people can create something out of nothing. I have to be at the mercy of people that are kind enough to give them away.
Go get me some megastones/other limited items......you can't even hack items right now (not that this even makes sense, items don't even take time to obtain)
and seeing as people are getting Hidden Power Ice Zapdos right now anyway, I'd say your legendary comment is worthless too
edit: oh look complaining about purely cosmetic shinies, told you it'd still happen Firestorm
Exactly why I have no problem cloning. I feel that Pokemon shouldn't be valuable. For now I'll just be doing stones, though. There seems to be a real demand. I have no qualms satisfying that demand. Raaaaaaaaaage, because I really don't care. :/But it does affect me. My Pokemon are worthless because people can create something out of nothing. I have to be at the mercy of people that are kind enough to give them away.
Lets not focus on pure IV Pokemon. Lets include Legendaries/ items/ even shiny Pokemon to an extent.
Man, the Pokemon hacking community is borderline crazy.
Justify what?I agree with HawthorneKitty but alas I don't have time to argue.
It's fun watching you guys justify yourselves though.
I agree with HawthorneKitty but alas I don't have time to argue.
It's fun watching you guys justify yourselves though.
brb, cloning shinies so your legit one is undesirable.How do those make your Pokemon worthless?
I've never used a hacked Pokemon in an online battle. I'm just not insecure enough to say they make an effect on battles. I've never seen a community so desperate to find ways to blame external factors on losses. Pokemon really is something special.I agree with HawthorneKitty but alas I don't have time to argue.
It's fun watching you guys justify yourselves though.
I've never used a hacked Pokemon in an online battle. I'm just not insecure enough to say they make an effect on battles. I've never seen a community so desperate to find ways to blame external factors on losses. Pokemon really is something special.
brb, cloning shinies so your legit one is undesirable.