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PS4 fastest-selling console in UK history, outsells Wii U LTD in UK [250K PS4 in 48h]
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I know its hard to call the UK Sonyland just yet, but it is certainly a good trend for them. You have to consider that many Xbox preorder holders were given a free soccer game at launch. If you can beat a new console with a free copy of FIFA, then your truly a hot product.
You are assuming Destiny will be good. Remember Reach.
"Free."
Does it actually have substantial and challenging platforming segments? Everything I've seen looks like a simpler GoW and I don't even like the good games of that gameplay style.
StrongArmSteady
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LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
It's only the UK not all of EU, and it's the UK's biggest launch of a console EVER. This is pretty big.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
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No. They still market the WiiU as a console that competes with Microsoft and Sony. That's a dead end for them. There's not enough space for three similarly powerful consoles. What they need to do is translate the fantastic WiiU games to their successful portable gaming platform. The 3ds isn't powerful enough but if it's successor could play WiiU games both on the go as well as via a HDMI out the lack of success of the WiiU suddenly becomes a non issue for their success as a games company.
And how do you know who has played both and who hasn't? It seems like there's offenders on both sides of the debate who haven't played both games. And FYI, I own and have played both games. They are both fun in their own ways, but I don't think either game is particularly "mind-blowing" or "fantastic".
Ok, it's strong worded.
Do you disagree with me? If yes, argue that. If not, don't get tied up on the semantics of it, however hyperbolic.
I would be cautious about EA gripping its claws into that game.
That is an opinion. There is no 'metric' to compare quality of video games other than opinion.
In terms of the install base, we might expect Mario to do better but that doesn't mean it should do better. What does 'should' even mean in that sense?
Destiny will be huge.
SwiftDeath
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That's 2/3 more what the XB1 sold and beats every console launch by a significant amount
It is actually a higher per capita attach rate than the US+Canada numbers
It is very impressive
Destiny isn't published by EA, EA isn't evil, etc etc etc. You are wrong in every way one can be wrong.
If it's good. Which it very well may not be - Remember Reach.
Interfectum
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I think the biggest story here is Sony actually listened to what gamers wanted and now it looks like they will reap the rewards. PlayStation 4 is going to be in beast mode next year.
Unless you ignore the games available at launch, then no.
DidntKnowJack
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How does that work exactly? How do you consider quality without an opinion in place?
Not to mention Xbone and 360. I have no doubt it will sell more. Activisions marketing dollars along with the Bungie brand name.
freezamite
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The souls series was perfectly doable past gen.
Dragon's Dogma and the rest of open world games have seen an evolution this generation, because the past one wasn't enough.
The problem is that we won't see that anymore. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see anything that couldn't be done in the past generation of consoles, playability-wise, because of lack of power.
We've reached a point where more graphics means less playability formulas available, because "more graphics" also means "more money invested" and this also means "less opportunities to launch a failed product" which also implies "go only for what's a certain success".
So the only gameplay novelties will be seen on the indie scene, because nobody expects and indie to make a graphical powerhouse. But as for finding retail-innovative games, I doubt we will see this anymore.
LiquidMetal14
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This had to be done
Well that's something haha
Absolutely not. It would've been on a much smaller scale, with smaller environments, ugly enemies, and crap animations. And even with all of that, a shit framerate.
Reach sold great. This is a new multiplatform IP from Bungie with the whole weight of Activision behind it. It will be huge.
Not in any way at all, sorry :/ yes I realise a HUGE portion of the 65 million google gave me are way old, way young, disabled, disinterested, etc - but ........ god 250k still seems small to me. (don't worry, I'm from a much smaller region, they'll be lucky to move 100k here)
I didn't play Reach outside of the demo, but bigger refers to sales, and Reach still sold well.
This had to be done
hahaha perfect.
zomgbbqftw
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No, you are including Mexico for NA. Should be US+Canada only which is about 350,000,000. 1m sales is one per 350 people vs one per 250 in the UK.
It really wasn't. The fundamental core aspects of the game were not achievable on PS2, Xbox or GameCube.
Yeah, but Reach was bad. People may remember that. Destiny will be huge, IF it is good. Which it may not be, given Bungie's track record as of late.
It seems small to you, but it objectively isn't. It's the biggest UK console launch by a huge margin.
So either you are really bad with numbers, or your expectations were hilariously out of touch with reality.
How can the largest launch ever be "only"? What possible reason would there be to expect more?
Now I will admit given PS4 was sold out everywhere in UK by approx 10 min after midnight they could probably have sold more if they had more stock.
But nonetheless 250k is a huge launch for the market going by historical performance so it is unfair to expect more - even if they could have sold more by the look of it.
gamergirly
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I'm actually glad this thread was posted. PS4 is going to be a big player in the UK, Wii U is not(as yet). No more of Nintendo being thrashed around in a country where Sony and Microsoft will be duking it out.....
Dorsal Axe
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it looks like Nintendo (and the people buying games) redoing this to themselves.
just look at this top list in a store..
10th. place..? and 49.99£
now wonder it sells as low.
People still shop in GAME? I don't know anyone here who doesn't buy
Has there even been any advertising for SM3DW? I haven't seen a single ad for it yet. If it wasn't for the fact that I actually follow video game news, I probably wouldn't even know the game exists.
I'm not surprised the PS4 is selling so well. Their marketing has been insanely aggressive, perhaps more so here than in other territories. Sony seem determined to claw back what they lost to Microsoft last gen, and I think they have nothing to worry about this time around. Mind you, MS pretty much handed things over on a plate.
The bolded is a valid point. The more money at stake, the more risk averse publishers seem to be.
That being said, Nintendo are risk averse too.
It's going to be the same here for AU, I mean I guess all launched are supply constrained (duh on me) but.... regardless 250k just seems like a small number to brag about. I'm sure mathematically it's great but it just doesn't play as exciting news to me? Wouldn't just saying "holy shit PS4 sold another million for the EU launch!" be more exciting?
Great news, good on themfor breaking records, hope people like it but .... yeah just doesn't feel exciting to pimp as news!
It's bizarre that you think your personal opinion of Halo Reach is any indicator of how well Destiny will do.
Reach reviewed well and sold well.
LiquidMetal14
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New IP and large install bases across several platforms should be invigorating instead of pumping out Halo after Halo.
I have high hopes and lots of interest in what I've seen. One thing Bungie is good at is shooters and this looks like it's going to be pretty epic. Outside of Drive Club and Infamous, this is the only other next gen game I have pre-ordered. Most of my Q1 2014 eggs are in the awesome indies coming to PS4 so no dry spell for PS4.
I was talking about Titanfall and no they aren't evil but they make some very questionable decisions that affect games
My friend was shopping around for COD Ghosts on Friday. We went to GAME. £59.99 of course. (£5 MORE than digital!). His local Tescos and Asdas didn't stock any PS4 stuff, so we tried Toys R Us expecting nothing there either.
£47.00. Their store is usually a ghost town and creepy, but credit on that price.
Honey Bunny
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No worries. I do think that packing in Fifa has helped them - their numbers would probably be a tad worse without it. But like Ramzas said, we vote with our wallets in the UK, and an XB1 with free Fifa is still more expensive than a PS4 with a full price Fifa. So it just isn't that compelling unless you were already leaning towards the XB1.
You mentioned earlier how the PS3's price was a huge problem for it - do you know the XB1's launch price in the UK? It's actually 4 quid higher than the premium PS3's price was. You also claimed that Playstation is synonymous with gaming in the Uk, and that just isn't true anymore - last generation the terms Xbox and Wii became just as if not more commonly used as the term 'Playstation' when referring to the generic games console. I even remember noticing silhouettes of the Xbox controller replacing silhouettes of the dualshock when being used as a sign for 'generic video game controller' in articles or textbooks or whatever. And all of that is small fry compared to the real fact that there were just fewer PS consoles in the UK than either Xbox or Wiis this past gen.
The reason these numbers look like they do is really far more complex than brand name.
It's a pretty much universally accepted opinion.
Bungie is good at shooters, this is more of an MMO. Everyone else who tried this failed hard. Anyway, this isn't the place for this discussion.
benjipwns
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If anyone needs to accept reality it's the people celebrating Nintendo's struggles and promoting further danger. There are going to be some major regrets if Nintendo gets driven out of this industry and there is no around this time to pick up the pieces when the inevitable crash comes from less visionary companies becoming too popular too quickly through sheer marketing and advertising saturation without establishing an undergirding philosophy that creates the superstructure of a sustainable gaming marketplace.
Even though no one then will admit their past role in the whole affair coming into existence after reality reasserts itself. Ignorant circle jerks by deniers won't do anything to halt the runaway market failure "modern" gaming has created.
deputyspade
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They gave them the choice of Fifa14 or Forza5 thrown in with the console and outspent Sony in adverts by quite a large margin in the UK. Still got beat in sales. Sony did pretty well I'd say.
No because it's not a platformer. It's not a very deep game either but it is difficult and requires some decent dodging, timing and studying the different attacks of enemies since on Hard most can and will kill you in a single hit.
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