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Footage of The Order 1886 wasn't ready for VGX

TAKE YOUR TIME AND MAKE A GOOD GAME!

I am totally on-board with the "slow and refined" attitude Sony devs are taking.

Just take your time and make the game good.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
TAKE YOUR TIME AND MAKE A GOOD GAME!

I am totally on-board with the "slow and refined" attitude Sony devs are taking.

Just take your time and make the game good.

I agree to a certain extent but sometimes Sony lets the developer have way to much leeway on time. GT series being the biggest culprit. I don't mid a fall to march delay since lot comes out in the fall but if the delay is till summer of 2015 or later then another case of Sony management not keeping developers on task.
 

watchdog

Member
My overreaction stems from the fact that Sony's 2014 lineup seem glaringly thin, especially for a company that has publicly stated they have a lot of games in development. If a gameplay trailer is not ready today with The Order's potential release scheduled for sometime in 2014, that is a worrisome sign that it may slip into 2015. If that's the case what will be released in late 2014? Uncharted? An unannounced game? We just don't know because Sony has been tight lipped on their future offerings. Maybe VGX will shed some light on that but time is running out and the later Sony waits the more evident that the back-end of 2014 will be devoid of tentpole exclusive for the PS4.

Don't you think you're overreacting a little there? We're barely coming to the end of 2013. Remember, Sony revealed their launch games back in February. It's possible they're working with developers to try to lock down release dates/timeframes so that when they do reveal a title it'll come out when they say it will. Just be patient. :)
 
Kind of strange considering we've gotten a bit of information on it including screen shots. It didn't look that early in development.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
It's pretty ridiculous. At this rate if there's no Sony game shown at this awful hack event some people are going to conclude they're ceasing production of the PS4.

Welcome to a console launch. People want big time first party games on their new box nothing new here. It does not help that people see all these big time games still coming out for the PS3 to be honest.
 
Hmm, VGX's are getting slightly more disappointing by the day. At least they have TitianFall, Quantum Break and Dying Light to be shown.
 

Cutebrute

Member
I'm just worried that RaD did put time and resources into preparing a trailer and they missed their deadline/ the footage was not up to snuff. That would be a true shame and waste of resources.
 
Welcome to a console launch. People want big time first party games on their new box nothing new here. It does not help that people see all these big time games still coming out for the PS3 to be honest.

But there's only one big post-PS4 PS3 exclusive, and that's GT6. There will be major PS4 exclusives, but like every other console ever, it needs about 12 months to really pick up the pace. We're getting Infamous and DC early next year, and there will probably be at least another couple of major exclusives due before the end of the year. The Order may end up being 2015, but they've never talked about a confirmed release window.

I know new PS4 owners are keen for more software, but I just think this one tiny lack of trailer is being completely blown out of proportion.
 

JCreasy

Member
This game was announced way too early.

This is Square Enix shit. It's Versus XIII all over again.

Hey devs, how about announcing games when they're ready to be seen. That's doesn't mean they have to be finished, but some level of gameplay needs to be showable. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.
 
This game was announced way too early.

This is Square Enix shit. It's Versus XIII all over again.

Hey devs, how about announcing games when they're ready to be seen. That's doesn't mean they have to be finished, but some level of gameplay needs to be showable. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.

You're comparing a game that was only announced five months ago with a game that was announced seven (?) years ago, yeah? Seems like a fair comparison, and definitely not an overreaction.
 
This game was announced way too early.

This is Square Enix shit. It's Versus XIII all over again.

Hey devs, how about announcing games when they're ready to be seen. That's doesn't mean they have to be finished, but some level of gameplay needs to be showable. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.

How else are they going to hype the system? Theres a reason why KH3 was shown so early at E3 this year.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Wait, what? Did I miss a delay announcement or something? This just says footage won't be there. That's all.
 

Famassu

Member
This game was announced way too early.

This is Square Enix shit. It's Versus XIII all over again.

Hey devs, how about announcing games when they're ready to be seen. That's doesn't mean they have to be finished, but some level of gameplay needs to be showable. Otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time.
Dear beelzebub the overreactions. :|

People want to know what is coming on the new consoles. If Sony & MS only revealed games that were "ready to be shown", they'd have very slim showings at E3 this year. Order is still at least 9-10 months away from release. Sony won't need to start showing Order until sometime in Spring 2014 to build up appropriate hype for the game.
 
Showing trailers must be a real chore for developers.
Its like, you're haven't finished your game but you have to present something and then people give you shit for it beeing not finished and having an unstable framerate and other issues you usually fix towards the end of production.
 

RulkezX

Member
But there's only one big post-PS4 PS3 exclusive, and that's GT6. There will be major PS4 exclusives, but like every other console ever, it needs about 12 months to really pick up the pace. We're getting Infamous and DC early next year, and there will probably be at least another couple of major exclusives due before the end of the year. The Order may end up being 2015, but they've never talked about a confirmed release window.

I know new PS4 owners are keen for more software, but I just think this one tiny lack of trailer is being completely blown out of proportion.

Quite a few of us remember how shitty Sony were with software during the early days of the PS3, and this is beginning to feel a whole lot like it.
 
TAKE YOUR TIME AND MAKE A GOOD GAME!

I am totally on-board with the "slow and refined" attitude Sony devs are taking.

Just take your time and make the game good.

Exactly. Does it matter if I see the footage? As long as the game isn't delayed any further, I can wait a couple more weeks or months before I see something.

You guys are losing your shit.
 

NeoROCK

Member
saw this on reddit a few minutes ago. Andrea Pessino is the co-founder of RaD.



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Sounds like it's more of a Sony marketing blunder rather than the game's development being behind schedule.

I know people were tweeting yosp and asking about The Order being shown at VGX. Maybe it didn't occur to SCEA until last minute that they should show the game, and by then RaD didn't have anything prepared?
 

injurai

Banned
I agree to a certain extent but sometimes Sony lets the developer have way to much leeway on time. GT series being the biggest culprit. I don't mid a fall to march delay since lot comes out in the fall but if the delay is till summer of 2015 or later then another case of Sony management not keeping developers on task.

GT though is their biggest and most valuable franchise, rivaling pokemon mario and gta. I can see why they would allow it such a dev time. Though it's getting a bit much.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
Gemüsepizza;92666221 said:
So basically you believe it won't be called "Uncharted 4"? Ok, we will see.

Yes I think there's a possibility. If sony thinks this IP has a long running future on their consoles I can see them going in such a direction

I said "could". Of course it is just speculation, but the previous teasers were different and I haven't seen any teases from Geoff regarding the game, which I think would have been there if there was a big reveal of a Naughty Dog game tomorrow.

Geoff hasn't done many specific hyping for games this time around compared to last year I think..not sure why. But I would be utterly shocked if UC isn't a fall next year game. It will most likely be their big gun for the holidays

I can't really think of anything that needs to be a "secret" until the reveal. The previous subtitles were pretty generic ("Among Thieves", "Drake's Deception").

I was thinking maybe a location based hint. Something like "Atlantis rising' or some lol

They are not full reboots, but they have new player characters and a new setting (different time/city/locations)

To be fair both KZ3 and inFamous ended things on a good point for a reboot/fresh start. And Uncharted 3 did too. Wouldn't be surprised if this is a new start for the Uncharted franchise too..heck maybe even with a different main character

Uncharted: Drakes Legacy has a nice ring to it :D Either way I hope they show something meaty for it tomorrow. I'm a big fan of the franchise
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My answers in bold
 

JCreasy

Member
Dear beelzebub the overreactions. :|

People want to know what is coming on the new consoles. If Sony & MS only revealed games that were "ready to be shown", they'd have very slim showings at E3 this year. Order is still at least 9-10 months away from release. Sony won't need to start showing Order until sometime in Spring 2014 to build up appropriate hype for the game.

EXACTLY!

They could've waited until Spring 2014 to have the announce trailer and a small snippet of actual gameplay footage. That's how you do it. Then go a little bigger at E3. That way they can push the release date back as needed, but feed the media beast piece by piece. Maintain that hype with real footage that fans can keep going back to until the game comes out.

Maybe I am overreacting. I'll concede that. But large spans of time between new game footage makes me uneasy. Also see: The Last Guardian.
 

RaikuHebi

Banned
saw this on reddit a few minutes ago. Andrea Pessino is the co-founder of RaD.



tumblr_mxeimcHMF01s63ovdo1_1280.jpg





Sounds like it's more of a Sony marketing blunder rather than the game's development being behind schedule.

I know people were tweeting yosp and asking about The Order being shown at VGX. Maybe it didn't occur to SCEA until last minute that they should show the game, and by then RaD didn't have anything prepared?

This backs up my theory that Sony want the focus to be on Uncharted.
 

Endo Punk

Member
Absolutely bloody pathetic. They have had more than enough time to throw out another trailer, the fact its not ready just shows awful Shu is at managing first party. Sony better have more than Uncharted to show at VGX.
 

RulkezX

Member
Absolutely bloody pathetic. They have had more than enough time to throw out another trailer, the fact its not ready just shows awful Shu is at managing first party. Sony better have more than Uncharted to show at VGX.

Infamous and Driveclub I guess :/
 

Loudninja

Member
Absolutely bloody pathetic. They have had more than enough time to throw out another trailer, the fact its not ready just shows awful Shu is at managing first party. Sony better have more than Uncharted to show at VGX.
Please just stop the nonsense.
 

KoopaTheCasual

Junior Member
This backs up my theory that Sony want the focus to be on Uncharted.

That's so dumb, if true. They'll just look bad if they're only showing one game at the VGX. Hopefully this means that they're planning on teasing a new title, and didn't want to overcrowd things. If that's not the case, then I have no idea what's wrong with Sony marketing.
 

Famassu

Member
Quite a few of us remember how shitty Sony were with software during the early days of the PS3, and this is beginning to feel a whole lot like it.
Lol, stop being so ignorant. PS4's first year looks nothing like PS3's first year. I mean, just looking at this list proves you are utterly & completely wrong in your assessment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games



Have you overreactionary people forgotten that Microsoft hasn't shown ANYTHING from Halo 5, yet that is also supposedly releasing around the same time as The Order 1886?
 
saw this on reddit a few minutes ago. Andrea Pessino is the co-founder of RaD.



tumblr_mxeimcHMF01s63ovdo1_1280.jpg





Sounds like it's more of a Sony marketing blunder rather than the game's development being behind schedule.

I know people were tweeting yosp and asking about The Order being shown at VGX. Maybe it didn't occur to SCEA until last minute that they should show the game, and by then RaD didn't have anything prepared?

This backs up my theory that Sony want the focus to be on Uncharted.

Guessing Sony doesn't want the I.P to be overshadowed by U4.... how marketing is adressing the games for the PS4 this time makes me believe that inFamous and The Order will get their own trailers later and have a marketing budget at around the time when people get off the U4 hype from VGX

it is also the reason on why some games got the spotlight for E3 and Gamescom while major AAA games announcements got pushed back to later dates


More of a strategic move then a chance of the game being delayed

Absolutely bloody pathetic. They have had more than enough time to throw out another trailer, the fact its not ready just shows awful Shu is at managing first party. Sony better have more than Uncharted to show at VGX.

To be fair Shu is pretty shit at his job. He's awesome on the Twitter though.
lolololol where did this pent up hatred come from

Shue doesn't suck at his job
 

Slair

Member
This thread just made me sell my ps4, the order was the only game they had and they just delayed it. Shitty way to announce a delay, i'll just buy a ps4 in 2016 when the game comes out.
 

Kaswa101

Member
Really hope this won't be delayed. I trust Sony to deliver on the first-party front, but so far they are lacking in announcements and releases. They need to pull out some Uncharted footage or a Santa Monica game reveal asap.
 

Loudninja

Member
I know some people are joking but where in the hell did this delayed nonsense comes from?

the game does not come out until Fall.
 

Pennywise

Member
Absolutely bloody pathetic. They have had more than enough time to throw out another trailer, the fact its not ready just shows awful Shu is at managing first party. Sony better have more than Uncharted to show at VGX.

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The show isn't usually about big exclusives only dude.
Maybe you should browse through the history of the event.
The main part are world premieres of multiplattform titles.
 

Mario007

Member
Guessing Sony doesn't want the I.P to be overshadowed by U4.... how marketing is adressing the games for the PS4 this time makes me believe that inFamous and The Order will get their own trailers later and have a marketing budget at around the time when people get off the U4 hype from VGX

it is also the reason on why some games got the spotlight for E3 and Gamescom while major AAA games announcements got pushed back to later dates


More of a strategic move then a chance of the game being delayed




lolololol where did this pent up hatred come from

Shue doesn't suck at his job
Not to derail the thread but we're talking about a man who didn't see the potential in Demons Souls, greenlit GoW:A, put GT6 on ps3 (as a result of which the game will sell quite a bit less than GT5 did), didn't realise Puppetteer would have been good as a launch title for the ps4 and when the failing handheld of his company is in dire need of AAA games his answer was The Big Fest and Murasaki Baby.
 
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