shinra-bansho
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If Road is still here, maybe he can tell us where he derived that first number.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2013 [Up3: Zelda, Pokemon, Mario, 3DS, Wii U]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Aquamarine
Member
There's no fun in just blatantly stating numbers. ;-)
Oh, whoops, missed the "each".
Still, pretty big drop considering all that was going on.
Not disaster territory, but still bad.
anexanhume
Member
GetemMa
Member
Lowest attach rate for any 3D Mario ever.
Zelda is my GOTY and there are 10 million 3DSs in the US.
400K seems underwhelming.
famousmortimer
Banned
theprodigy
Member
Zelda is fine, Mario is not
or it could actually be 1114k and everyone who is still up will have their mind blown
lol
I'll add W101 on too for you
THE HUNT CONFOUNDS
Kasumi1970
my name is Ted
it would be 5 hd cousins. 360, ps3, ps4, Wiiu. and xbone that 5. 360 is still selling more software. so i don;t feel sorry for MS. if you are talking about next gen say next gen software.
ultratruman
Banned
So what do NPD reports look like? Are they fat number lists or do they break everything down into percentages and comparisons for companies?
creamsugar
Member
Pokemon LTD ~ 2.45M (with bundle)
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I blame NPDs formatting for that. Was a terrible idea to combine sales of all platforms, basically ensured yearly multiplat sequels to dominate the charts.
Square2015
Member
So going with 1.114 we have:
PS4 1.114m
XBone 909k
3DS 770k
360 647k
PS3 405k
WiiU 232k
Wii 67k
PS4 1.114m
XBone 909k
3DS 770k
360 647k
PS3 405k
WiiU 232k
Wii 67k
CouldBeWorse
Member
For the love of God will someone put together the numbers using 1138k as the PS4 number?!? Do to make me break open my laptop and Excel!!!
Plug in 1138k
Plug in 1138k
anexanhume
Member
It's already there.
Not sure if they still do it but NPD used to track leaks by tweaking the last 3-5 digits of the numbers to each report sent out. If you gave exact numbers you would likely get in some serious trouble since these reports cost serious money to have access to.
As I said, knowing PS3 is 12% of PS3+WIU+XBO+PS4+360+WII still leaves a high margin of error. Example.
Assume PS3 is 420k.
420k/0.123 = 3.41 million
420k/0.12 = 3.5 million
420k/0.116 = 3.62 million
Dozens of thousands of difference.
famousmortimer
Banned
You're forgetting Wii. PS3 is 12% of PS3+WIU+XB1+PS4+360+WII
PS3 + Wii = 14% of total, though, so that helps. Just that we have two equations and three unknowns.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Oh man this was a good one.
rip in peace wii u. 2012-2013. you have brought much joy (and some pain) but you will be missed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI
Still catching up to the thread, but having Taps in the background is just too good.
Damn, I really want to know the PS4 numbers.
The gap between 1138 and 1234 is too big to be satisfied.
MetalGuardian
Banned
Okay, bear with me guys, this is the first NPD thread I've actively followed in a long time.
Are the 3DS numbers really that bad? It's only tracking a couple mil behind the original DS at the moment, unless I was incorrectly reading that handheld sales chart that was posted a couple pages ago. Considering how drastically the handheld market has changed with smartphones, that at least appears on surface level to be a solid accomplishment. Not to mention that individual game sales for the system's heavy hitters have been healthy. 405 K for a handheld Zelda in only 8 days is pretty damn good given the current market (and I'm responsible for two of those purchases, huzzah!)
I completely understand all of the logistics as to why the Wii U numbers are shockingly awful, but 3DS not so much. Not to mention that the system is still attracting some high-caliber support from third parties. The system seems to be in very good shape overall to me, but I'm very curious as to why so many of you think otherwise.
As much as the Wii U numbers are giving me a sadness in my bones tonight, I feel almost as bad for Tearaway. I've never so much as touched a Vita, but Tearaway looks like a magical cartridge of creativity and unadulterated bliss.
Gaming is in a very sad state for me Nothing on the top ten is in line with my personal preferences. I'm morbidly fascinated to see what the landscape will look like in half a decade, but I'm also very afraid.
Are the 3DS numbers really that bad? It's only tracking a couple mil behind the original DS at the moment, unless I was incorrectly reading that handheld sales chart that was posted a couple pages ago. Considering how drastically the handheld market has changed with smartphones, that at least appears on surface level to be a solid accomplishment. Not to mention that individual game sales for the system's heavy hitters have been healthy. 405 K for a handheld Zelda in only 8 days is pretty damn good given the current market (and I'm responsible for two of those purchases, huzzah!)
I completely understand all of the logistics as to why the Wii U numbers are shockingly awful, but 3DS not so much. Not to mention that the system is still attracting some high-caliber support from third parties. The system seems to be in very good shape overall to me, but I'm very curious as to why so many of you think otherwise.
As much as the Wii U numbers are giving me a sadness in my bones tonight, I feel almost as bad for Tearaway. I've never so much as touched a Vita, but Tearaway looks like a magical cartridge of creativity and unadulterated bliss.
Gaming is in a very sad state for me
Nothing on the top ten is in line with my personal preferences. I'm morbidly fascinated to see what the landscape will look like in half a decade, but I'm also very afraid.vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Solid numbers! Thank You!
Pokemon Company must be really happy with those results! Should easily eclipse 15 LTD WW.
People looking for a creamsugar recap should just look at his post history.
theprodigy
Member
if you look to the right of Tearaway you can find Sonic and Wonderful 101
shinra-bansho
Member
Oh, I was more wondering how you arrived at 1234K for PS4? Was that just a stab in the dark?
EDIT: Oh, I confused what you did. So you're using PS3 to derive PS4?
Is the PS3 number credible?
Edge_Maverick
Member
Any information on the LTD sales of KH 1.5 HD?
CouldBeWorse
Member
So the Xbox console family outsold the Playstation console family but it's close enough that the crappy Vita sales put the Sony family back on top!
I miss family talk at NPD time :/
Has 360 passed Wii yet? Should be VERY close.
I miss family talk at NPD time :/
Has 360 passed Wii yet? Should be VERY close.
But if you're lazy.. all the posts creamsugar's made in this thread.
If you're going up from the smaller PS3 number, yeah. Hoping we can come down from the larger PS4 number, though. Figure someone will ask NPD about it or it'll be in an analyst summary that the press will quote tomorrow.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Well the Wii U crash course is;
Wii U < 250k
SM3DW < 250k
COD:G roughly 20k
Many people are calling time on WiiU, but I genuinely feel 2014 is the make or break year for the Wii U with possibly 2015 being it's final year if it doesn't pick up still.
Dragonborn
Member
Okay, bear with me guys, this is the first NPD thread I've actively followed in a long time.
Are the 3DS numbers really that bad? It's only tracking a couple mil behind the original DS at the moment, unless I was incorrectly reading that handheld sales chart that was posted a couple pages ago. Considering how drastically the handheld market has changed with smartphones, that at least appears on surface level to be a solid accomplishment. Not to mention that individual game sales for the system's heavy hitters have been healthy. 405 K for a handheld Zelda in only 8 days is pretty damn good given the current market (and I'm responsible for two of those purchases, huzzah!)
I completely understand all of the logistics as to why the Wii U numbers are shockingly awful, but 3DS not so much. Not to mention that the system is still attracting some high-caliber support from third parties. The system seems to be in very good shape overall to me, but I'm very curious as to why so many of you think otherwise.
As much as the Wii U numbers are giving me a sadness in my bones tonight, I feel almost as bad for Tearaway. I've never so much as touched a Vita, but Tearaway looks like a magical cartridge of creativity and unadulterated bliss.
Gaming is in a very sad state for me
I think the 3DS is doing well but it isn't going to do DS numbers. It'll do half what the DS did at best unless something changes big time. That's pretty bad for Nintendo since they to have lost a ton of customers
Sho_Nuff82
Member
PS360 = HD twins
I was making a joke that PS3/PS4/360/Xbone = HD cousins. More apt comparison as most of those games don't have Wii U versions.
Damn.
Unless they completely rehaul the franchise (immediately), it's going to continue declining into irrelevance. The "wow" factor is gone - it's going to be 9 years since CoD 2 in 2014. It was a nice reign at the top but it was never going to last forever. Its collapse leaves a vacuum at the top for some new franchises to step in, which is good for everyone.
See you at NPD 2024 where we lament the sales of Destiny 5
Oh didn't realize it was already done
shinra-bansho
Member
GAF's gem will save us from the ambiguity.If you're going up from the smaller PS3 number, yeah. Hoping we can come down from the larger PS4 number, though. Figure someone will ask NPD about it or it'll be in an analyst summary that the press will quote tomorrow.
That gap between 3DS and DS is going to explode. We only just recently reached a point where their paths crossed. Now is when DS Lite was exploding. 3DS is about to get left completely in the dust. Still appears to be a success until you look at Nintendo's own projections for it, in which case you can only view it as a failure. Ditto Wii U.
Otakumegane
Member
I don't my question from the previous pages has been answered yet but, isn't 400k the best opening for a handheld Zelda title?
That would mean that the Wii U only sold 5 copies of CoD for each copy of Fighter Within (the worst launch game, by far) on the Xbox One. When the newest game in one of the most popular series around puts up numbers like that on your console, then it's safe to say that the console in question is dead.
Sorry, Wii U. I own one, but I fully expect it will be off the market in a couple years...
This doesn't make sense.
Nintendo says the LTD is 2.35 million, and that includes digital numbers.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
78 pages to wade through? No thank you. Good sales for the two nextgen consoles. Why in the world is Sony not releasing the PS4 numbers? Also, the per week sales probably confirms MS will dominate December.
Honestly, in 5 days I was expecting no more than 750k for MS. Looks like NA could once again be Xbox land.
Honestly, in 5 days I was expecting no more than 750k for MS. Looks like NA could once again be Xbox land.