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Damn the PS4 is sluggish it is getting hammered

GrandHarrier said:
??? Almost every other device will say, "Hey stupid I have no Internet connection". PS4 expects you to figure everything out.

Also I hate their vague errors. "An error has occurred". Yeah? No shit? What kind of error?
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How you not used a computer in the last 10 years? That sort of errors apear all the time

And not only on computers

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It's a launch product. Expect broken shit
 
I guess GrandHarrier would like to know exactly what kind of errors occur.. Dude it's a launch product it's bound to have some stuff that doesnt work exactly like it's supposed to.
 
WraithBringer said:
I'm really holding back my language for christmas and my new years resolution to be less rageful, if that's a word.

But the gist of it was, as if you could do better? Do you know the whole intricate workings out of the network and can predict to the exact specification what you need, then ensure the hardware is able to keep up? It's Christmas day!! Hundreds of thousands of people are probably signing up to PSN and/or logging in. The system can only cope with so much. It's not uncommon. It's like a DDoS, it happens.

So yeah, complain all you'll like. I paid for it too. But you don't see me bring a Scrooge about it and whining about it online. Get over it. Enjoy your day and for once, try and have a little patience. The servers will respond in time.
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The network I work on has days every year where traffic takes huge spikes. We don't tell our customers to suck it up and enjoy the shitty service and insinuate that they'd have to be bad people to complain about it.
 
MMaRsu said:
I guess GrandHarrier would like to know exactly what kind of errors occur.. Dude it's a launch product it's bound to have some stuff that doesnt work exactly like it's supposed to.
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Try to access PS Store-- An error occurred. I've gotten this message for multiple different reasons ranging from no Internet connection, PSN maintenance, and just because my PS4 was moody. It's shouldn't be so hard to return appropriate error messaging. That helps me correct the situation (if fixable on my end).

This isn't a launch issue, it's the same on PS3 and Vita. Sony is just terrible with error messaging. I have less issues on my PS3 and even my PC (yo dude Java crashed that shit is fucked! OK, cool I can fix that).
 
WraithBringer said:
I'm really holding back my language for christmas and my new years resolution to be less rageful, if that's a word.

But the gist of it was, as if you could do better? Do you know the whole intricate workings out of the network and can predict to the exact specification what you need, then ensure the hardware is able to keep up? It's Christmas day!! Hundreds of thousands of people are probably signing up to PSN and/or logging in. The system can only cope with so much. It's not uncommon. It's like a DDoS, it happens.

So yeah, complain all you'll like. I paid for it too. But you don't see me bring a Scrooge about it and whining about it online. Get over it. Enjoy your day and for once, try and have a little patience. The servers will respond in time.
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A Defense Force for poor service smh.

It's not like these companies don't know exactly how many consoles are out there and how many will get turned on today.

No issues with MS yet?
 
The network is running fine for me. What's not running fine is BF4, crashed more times then i can count in a very short amount of time. But i have a feeling that's more a problem with DICE and their complete ineptitude at making a full, working product.
 
Whats new and player tracking stats for each game are disabled. They did this at the start of EU launch as well. They will turn them back on later I guess.
 
Trying to download Killzone and 11GB took 6hrs on my 15meg connection. And you can't even pause? Fuck this shit, download cancelled.
 
Conflict NZ said:
Same thing happened to Xbox Live back in 08, a ton of people got a 360 and COD for christmas and MS didn't anticipate the demand, ended up being down for almost two weeks over the holidays.
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Shit... I remember that clear as day. Christmas 2007, I had just gotten LIVE and it was such a bust. All we got in the end of it all was Undertow.
 
A most sincere thank you to all the guinea pigs. Make the PS4 better for when I buy it when interesting games are released for the console. Hoozah!
 
Only thing sluggish is the trophy menu for me. That thing takes 30 seconds to load while in a game and doesn't sync properly if I don't open new trophies via the notification menu.
They should really combine online & offline via some form of cache. You open = it shows you the last available cached copy of your trophies on your system while it syncs in the background and automatically refreshes your trophies. Trophies you just unlocked should automatically be unlocked in your cache too because at the moment they arent even unlocked if you go in your trophy menu and wait for the sync to finish/the trophies to show. I usually have to open the trophy notification first in order for the trophy to unlock properly...
 
Captain Tuttle said:
A Defense Force for poor service smh.

It's not like these companies don't know exactly how many consoles are out there and how many will get turned on today.

No issues with MS yet?
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What do you mean by poor? So overloading on a server at once is poor? Oh please, everyone at my job clocks out at 5pm and there's a huge hang up when everyone does it at once. It's not poor but just how network works. Everyone can not go out of the same door at the same time without congestion.

Reason why there is no issue with MS is because they aren't selling more than 200k+ every week in different countries all at the same time. It's going to buckle down until they open up more gates.

djshauny said:
Just no.

I expect a product to work when I pay for it

Live has been fine
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Who's saying it doesn't work? It's not like his PS4 is bricked because PSN is hammered. It's temporary and definitely not something he's going to be looking for within the next week. Y'all make it seem as if on launch day, XBL wasn't just as slow until they got it up, and please don't make it seem like it was perfect because it wasn't.
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
What do you mean by poor? So overloading on a server at once is poor? Oh please, everyone at my job clocks out at 5pm and there's a huge hang up when everyone does it at once. It's not poor but just how network works. Everyone can not go out of the same door at the same time without congestion.

Reason why there is no issue with MS is because they aren't selling more than 200k+ every week in different countries all at the same time. It's going to buckle down until they open up more gates.
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Or MS has had more experience in providing a unified online service for their console platform since Xbox 1. Not to mention investing heavily into expanding their servers.

When I moved from 360 to PS3, the difference was noticeable. Game categories in Store had no screenshots. Updates for old games such as Uncharted 2 were painfully slow (assuming they've allocated their higher bandwidth servers for their newer games). Not to mention the PSN fiasco once they got hacked. I feel your pain.
 
Captain Tuttle said:
A Defense Force for poor service smh.

It's not like these companies don't know exactly how many consoles are out there and how many will get turned on today.

No issues with MS yet?
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Probably not, nobody is buying those. Hurr hurr

Just got a ps4 this morning from my wife, got the system update installed and trying to login. In the same boat as everyone else, can't sign in. Hope it's up before I go to my in laws later.
 
Am a surprised new ps4 owner! Definitely was not expecting this. Sadly psn is still down. I need resogun in my life! Any other recommendations? Currently own shadow fall which is... Pretty. Will probably pick up battlefield if the servers have been fixed.
 
BigDaddyFatSack said:
Or MS has had more experience in providing a unified online service for their console platform since Xbox 1. Not to mention investing heavily into expanding their servers.

When I moved from 360 to PS3, the difference was noticeable. Game categories in Store had no screenshots. Updates for old games such as Uncharted 2 were painfully slow (assuming they've allocated their higher bandwidth servers for their newer games). Not to mention the PSN fiasco once they got hacked. I feel your pain.
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I don't feel any pain because I never experienced all of these issues. It'll admit to updates being much much slower because of design reasons but the network itself was never as slow as some make it out to be. Microsoft does have more experience but it's not perfect and that's what I'm getting at. Some are making it seem like Sony isn't going out of there way to fix these issues and make it a big deal. I mean, they aren't punching their chest in trying to prove that they are the best as online infrastructure. They are getting better at it. Compared to half of what it was before, it's a lot better.

Also part of the reason why MS is kind of better at it is because they are moving forward as a Saas and that works in their favor. They do have other competitors besides Sony which are more important to them than XBL. I'd say XBL gets some of the benefits of being included in those services but not by a lot.
 
I think it's a sort of glitch. It's happened to me too some day ago. I have to fix it choising ps4 restore system from the system menu. The bad thing is all your data save will be delete. You need of a back up.
 
bequietdrive said:
Am a surprised new ps4 owner! Definitely was not expecting this. Sadly psn is still down. I need resogun in my life! Any other recommendations? Currently own shadow fall which is... Pretty. Will probably pick up battlefield if the servers have been fixed.
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Not sure if they are perfect but definitely are good enough to buy
 
Keep getting errors when entering codes. Also, PSN stuff it taking an extremely long time to load. Probably getting hammered because it's Christmas, right?
 
Haven't used my PS4 today, but I just booted my PS3, logged into PSN and started downloading DMC. So it seems to be working fine for me.
 
BigDaddyFatSack said:
When I moved from 360 to PS3, the difference was noticeable. Game categories in Store had no screenshots. Updates for old games such as Uncharted 2 were painfully slow (assuming they've allocated their higher bandwidth servers for their newer games). Not to mention the PSN fiasco once they got hacked. I feel your pain.
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What bothered me most is that you could not pause downloads on the xbox 360, you had to cancel them, so if i suddenly decided that I wanted to play the last game in my queue, I had to cancel all the others before it and then re-enter all the other games which was already in my queue. PSN was a lifesaver for download management in that regard.

PSN at the very early days didn't have screenshots for games that much is certain, but now every game has an overview which includes screenshots, videos, trailers, full esrb details, the developer, release date of title and full game feature details including peripheals, number of players supported etc...

As for me, perhaps what is the most helpful thing is download size, just last week ni no kuni was on sale, but i decided against it and opted for the disc instead because of the download size, that was easy enough without going through hoops, I can learn all i want about a game right there on the store to make an informed decision.

The differences here became more noticeable to me as I've been using my 360 more frequently these last two weeks since my PS3 got hit by a surge through a thunderstorm. Everything is not amazing on live, there's quite a bit that PSN and it's structure does better than live. It should also be noted that there are more games on PSN than on LIVE especially bigger games with larger download sizes, I've checked both lists from a-z, perhaps the sheer number and size of the games means there's more of a demand on the servers being accessed across the ps3, vita, psp and now PS4.
 
Everything is down for me... which is whatever, but AC4 just errored again. Corrupted game data, corrupted save.

Beware of Digital games on PS4 people... I've had nothing but problems. And as the consumer here, I have no protection. All these issues and the response is basically, "Oh well. Maybe try downloading it again. Did you know PS4 has cloud saving?".

This has been the roughest console launch I've experienced. Broken PS4 out of the box. And now just issue after issue with the games functioning and the worst sin of all: corrupted game saves. Battlefield 4 hit me three times, and now AC4 has corrupted when I'm 30% into the game.

Merry Christmas.
 
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