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[dead monkey uk]

I love the graphic in the article comparing the PS4 vs Xbox One http://www.gamespot.com/articles/next-gen-console-comparison-ps3-ps4-xbox-one-xbox-360/1100-6416217/

It should be sponsored by Master Chief

 

[MaximusPayne]

Agreed, it just so happens that those same games look better on the more inexpensive console.

PS has Ryse and Forza???

 

[Noble Neckbeard]

They sound so much like PS3-era Sony that it's downright bizarre.

 

[Taker34]

I'm not easy to convince but Bowman already got me at "exclusive content". If he would have said "experience" I'd buy an Xbone right now.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Then they shouldn't charge more for it.

They let the tech get in the way

 

[Markitron]

Does the XB1 really not have Bluetooth? That cant be true..............

 

[bombshell]

Why do they feel the need to continue this rubbish spec talk, when it's clearly not true?

 

[Radec]

Playstation 4
Battlefield 4 = 1600x900 (60fps)
The Order: 1886 = 1920x800 (to be confirmed)
KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920x1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
Dying Light = 1920x1080
Infamous: Second Son = 1920x1080
DriveClub = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Resogun = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Knack = 1920x1080 (Variable - 30-60fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920x1080 (with AA) (30fps)
Thief = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Blacklight: Retribution = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Warframe = 1920x1080
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Trine 2: Complete Story = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Flower = 1920x1080 (60fps)
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
DC: Universe Online = 1920x1080 (60fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)

Xbox One
Killer Instinct = 1280x720 (60fps)
Battlefield 4 = 1280x720 (60fps)
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1280x720 (60fps)
Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600x900 (30fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1600x900 (30fps)
Titanfall = 1280x720 (to be confirmed)
Forza 5 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Kinect Sports Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Thief = ????x??? (30fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Dead Rising 3 = 1280x720 (30fps)


yep. fairly marginal.

 

[Vitor711]

While it may not be true on paper, in practice the difference is marginal. Nobody is going to care about 900p vs 1080p, or slightly lower AA. The games are the exact same otherwise.

Price OTOH does matter. A lot. And the difference there is far greater than marginal. MS needs to get rid of the damn kinect if they want any chance of holding on to the US market. Once ps4 supply issues are sorted out, things are going to get ugly for the xbone really fast.

'Nobody'? Really? So all the people who own both consoles will willingly buy the inferior version if given the choice? As the generation goes on, more and more people will own both. And more and more people will end up going with the PS4 versions of multi-platform games if the differences remain as they are.

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

Well, when the technichal gap between first party exclusives will be significant then we'll ask them if it's either incompetence or unwillingness to work hard.

 

[RedAssedApe]

.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

Why do I feel like this is going to be a talking point for a long time for MS? The idea of pulling the blanket of your head and still telling you that it's the same, and if not, very marginal?

No doubt this will be the case.

 

[IvorB]

Thread #12404 of company PR trying to talk good of their product.

Seriously, we dont need a 10,000 page discussion of why this isn't true. Its PR.

You're absolutely right. I'm out.

 

[BruiserBear]

Marginal can be defined how ever someone wants to define it.

As an owner of both consoles, I'd call the difference substantial.

 

[RedNumberFive]

PS has Ryse and Forza???

Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[T.O.P]

Thread #12404 of company PR trying to talk good of their product.

Seriously, we dont need a 10,000 page discussion of why this isn't true. Its PR.

Yup

 

[SwiftDeath]

Microsoft's Australasian vice president of sales and marketing Alan Bowman said it's not the power of the Xbox One or PS4 that will make the difference, but rather the games.

Australasian vice president of sales and marketing Alan Bowman

sales and marketing Alan Bowman

sales and marketing

 

[Dragon1893]

We know better but what is a PR tool supposed to say? We can just get a laugh out of this and move on.

 

[Snakeyes]

Aren't y'all tired of this discussion already?

 

[Mengy]

+$100

Yep. I do not want to pay $100 extra for a system that is less powerful than one that costs $100 less. It's really that simple.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Look. PR.

Are we surprised at this? It's their job to spin stuff. It's like being outraged that Domino's says they have the "best pizza."

 

[SJRB]

The price difference is fairly minimal too.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

People will laugh at this, but it's just as laughable for those people that seem to think the differences are much bigger than what they actually are.

 

[madp0k]

If they were smart, they'd never bring it up. The spec game is lost, pick something else that you can trump the competition on.

Having PR mouthpieces like this spout nonsense is only going to put the spotlight on them more.

Yep, the original interview is in a xbox mag aswell, "DON"T ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECS FFS ASK ME ABOUT TITANFALL AND HALO 5"

 

[The Lamp]

Yep, I play games not specs.

Specs affect your games. Including which ones are possible.

 

[Nafai1123]

PS4 gets exclusive pixels though.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Both consoles can play the same third party games, so in that sense it's marginal. 1080p vs 720p is not marginal for image quality purposes (especially for the average GAF poster). 1080p vs 900p ain't so bad, though. I still see myself going with XB1 for certain multi-platform games with exclusive content (I guess I'm part of the problem).

 

[2San]

If they were smart, they'd never bring it up. The spec game is lost, pick something else that you can trump the competition on.

Having PR mouthpieces like this spout nonsense is only going to put the spotlight on them more.

While I agree with this sentiment. I'm assuming this was an interview and he was asked a question and what else could he say really?

 

[VariantX]

Look. PR.

Are we surprised at this? It's their job to spin stuff.

I kind of am. They shouldn't be bringing this up again, all it does is gets people to look at the numbers and the numbers just tell the truth.

 

[oSoLucky]

We should have a Microsoft PR thread. It's the same statements every time.

 

[DemonNite]

Playstation 4
Battlefield 4 = 1600x900 (60fps)
The Order: 1886 = 1920x800 (to be confirmed)
KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920x1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
Dying Light = 1920x1080
Infamous: Second Son = 1920x1080
DriveClub = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Resogun = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Knack = 1920x1080 (Variable - 30-60fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920x1080 (with AA) (30fps)
Thief = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Blacklight: Retribution = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Warframe = 1920x1080
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Trine 2: Complete Story = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Flower = 1920x1080 (60fps)
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
DC: Universe Online = 1920x1080 (60fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)

Xbox One
Killer Instinct = 1280x720 (60fps)
Battlefield 4 = 1280x720 (60fps)
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1280x720 (60fps)
Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600x900 (30fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1600x900 (30fps)
Titanfall = 1280x720 (to be confirmed)
Forza 5 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Kinect Sports Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps)
Thief = ????x??? (30fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Dead Rising 3 = 1280x720 (30fps)


yep. fairly marginal.

 

[beast786]

Still waiting for Albert Response.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

"The purists are gonna argue the toss, but I think it comes down to the games."

Only thing that matters at the end of the day.

 

[Sidewinder]

Lol, just like the good 'ol pre-launch times But now we know the truth, the real one not the one Major was babbling about. Thread will be closed in 3..2..

I guess It's as marginal as the sales and price gap.

 

[darkwing]

I won't believe it until Albert says so

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

PS has Ryse and Forza???

Nope.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

We think our products are great, you should too.

The fact Microsoft feels the need to marginalize the differences is proof enough it is anything but.

 

[R3TRO]

Specs affect your games. Including which ones are possible.

Omg, I didn't know this! /s

 

[miDnIghtEr20C]

"The purists are gonna argue the toss, but I think it comes down to the games."

Only thing that matters at the end of the day.

Agreed. And it's been a great launch imo.

 

[beast786]

"The purists are gonna argue the toss, but I think it comes down to the games."

Only thing that matters at the end of the day.

So I guess its impossible to have Games and Pretty Graphics?

 

[RedNumberFive]

Still waiting for Albert Response.

You'll have to wait until next gen for more drive-by astroturfing.

 

[demosthenes]

but someone who just wants to watch TV is not

I think someone who just wants to watch TV isn't going to care about buying a $500 set top box.

Agreed. And it's been a great launch imo.

Do I have to go digging through HighDefDigest forums for quotes from this past generation?

 

[speculawyer]

Well, they do have a point. For multi-platform games where the devs don't optimize for the platforms, it probably will be a pretty marginal thing. But for exclusives and games where the devs put in the time/work to optimize the platforms, I suspect it will be noticeable.

But how much difference is there today between PS3 and X360 games? I suspect the PS3 hardware is more than marginally better than the x360 but for most multi-platform games, it really doesn't matter which version you get.

 

[T.O.P]

Nope.

Yup, first thing someone notices in a racing game, the crowd lol

 

[Byakuya769]

To the general consumer, I don't think any game has demonstrated otherwise.

 

[pixlexic]

I am ready to see what ps devs do with the ps4 on exclusives but I think we will see third party games pretty close like NSF rivals close.

 

[beast786]

Yup, first thing someone notices in a racing game, the crowd lol

Cant argue with attention to details.

 

[MaximusPayne]

Playstation 4
Battlefield 4 = 1600x900 (60fps)
The Order: 1886 = 1920x800 (to be confirmed)
KillZone: Shadow Fall = 1920x1080 (MP=60fps, SP=30fps)
Dying Light = 1920x1080 same
Infamous: Second Son = 1920x1080
DriveClub = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Resogun = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Knack = 1920x1080 (Variable - 30-60fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1920x1080 (with AA) (30fps)
Thief = 1920x1080 (30fps) same
Blacklight: Retribution = 1920x1080 (Targeting 60fps)
Warframe = 1920x1080
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Trine 2: Complete Story = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Flower = 1920x1080 (60fps)
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps) same
FIFA = 1920x1080 same
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps) same
DC: Universe Online = 1920x1080 (60fps)
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps) same

Xbox One
Killer Instinct = 1280x720 (60fps)
Battlefield 4 = 1280x720 (60fps)
Call of Duty: GHOSTS = 1280x720 (60fps)
Dying Light = 1920x1080 same
Ryse: Son of Rome = 1600x900 (30fps)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag = 1600x900 (30fps)
Titanfall = 1280x720 (to be confirmed)
Forza 5 = 1920x1080 (60fps)
Need for Speed: Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps) same
Kinect Sports Rivals = 1920x1080 (30fps)
FIFA = 1920x1080 same
EA Sports UFC = 1920x1080 (30fps) same
Thief = ????x??? (30fps) same
NBA 2K14 = 1920x1080 (60fps) same
Dead Rising 3 = 1280x720 (30fps)


yep. fairly marginal.

fixed

that's funny how some games are actually the same but a slight few are different, you would think it was the developer's decision or something...hmmm

 

[EL CUCO]

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Yup, first thing someone notices in a racing game, the crowd lol

I would normally agree with you on this... but sometimes the race starts in cockpit view and the first thing you see is a closeup of the 2D crowd. It's pretty horrific. Good game, though.