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Tomb Raider Definitive Edition - PlayStation 4 = ~60fps, Xbox One = ~30fps
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You're a fucking genius
That's the best kind of slowdown.
Majmun
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This thread must've been great promo. For the Ps4 version.
Releasing a week early in the US it seems. Well should know for definite soon then.
You just topped your poorly photoshopped "You're god damn right" Kaz/Breaking Bad gif.
And i mean that in the best way possible.
ModifiedDefaults
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Honestly, there is a lot of over exaggeration going on here. The game is going to look great on both consoles and will be a blast to play on current gen hardware, so I wouldn't worry about it at all.
My question now is if its safe to assume that at least for the beginning of the life of these two consoles, multiconsole games will have better fps on ps4. I say the beginning since I'm oging on the idea that the devs haven't capped the "potential" of the Xbox One. That isn't saying that they have capped the ps4 yet but at the very least the should reach 60fps more often in the future.
ElTorro GIF: Definitive Edition
You forgot to add XB1M13
Well the Xbone might not run Tomb Raider at 60fps, but it can run the NFL at 60fps!
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/23/microsoft-to-offer-nfl-games-at-60fps-on-xbox-one
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/01/23/microsoft-to-offer-nfl-games-at-60fps-on-xbox-one
eddfromtheriver
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Exactly.
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of PS4. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to close this web browser, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without Xbox One. A world without dick waving and console wars, without resolutions or framerates; a world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.
bigboss370
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you forget that in theory the esram is faster than the gddr5. not denying that the ps4 always will have the better specs, just saying that the one can make a big leap near the ps4 performance-wise with tiled ressources
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some serious buyers remorse going on in X1 subreddit >_>
NullPointer
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fastford58
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That Matrix gif is inspired. Bravo.
Anyone who has buyer's remorse over the specs only has themselves to blame. This "gap" has been foreseen for months and months and months, now.
If you chose to buy a One over a PS4, you did so willingly acknowledging the lower specs, in favor of something like exclusives, or your friend's list, Gamerscore, something like that.
TheOctodad
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some serious buyers remorse going on in X1 subreddit >_>
Yah it is full of rage and salt. Seems like a ton of people are finally facing reality.
Beautiful
Would it even be possible to release this as a patch/DLC for the PC version? Or even a discounted standalone as with Deus Ex HRDC?
All I hear from the devs is "last gen was a starting point", but it would be a lot easier for owners of the pc version to stomach than full price PS4/X1.
Or would the fact that Nixxes developed the pc port play a part in this?
All I hear from the devs is "last gen was a starting point", but it would be a lot easier for owners of the pc version to stomach than full price PS4/X1.
Or would the fact that Nixxes developed the pc port play a part in this?
batman2million
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Totally missed that this is coming out next week!
I really hope this won't be the case with MGS V in March.
I really hope this won't be the case with MGS V in March.
SwiftDeath
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the matrix gif is truly amazing but I can't agree that it's better than "A Few Good Men talk to Mark Rubin" gif
It's good if you like uncharted style games. cinematic action adventures.
The content -- little if any language that I can recall, a bit of sexual reference (
a badguy attempts to sexually assault Lara, and fails
WhartoX
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classic
batman2million
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bigboss370
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I think they just didn't anticipate the gap/differences being this big, and this apparent.
eddfromtheriver
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Waiting for the truth to come out obviously.
And we have the wonderful gaming press, such as IGN, to thank for that with their incessant downplaying of said gap. They do a disservice to their readers.
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TrueMenace
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This is simply...epic. Well played.
geordiemp
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I don't know why they would - just go for 1080 and 60 and then add effects until they are happy, as most console players will be on living room TV's rather than gaming monitors...
Or I would like them to target 1080 / 60 and at effects in order of effectiveness while maintaining frame rate, but that's just me.
AstroNut325
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False. It's not 1080p60fps.
Dreams-Visions
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A few more thoughts:
I know Xbox One can't hit 1080/60 in this game now, but further down the road, say in 2 years or so, if they revisited the project I'm sure they could make a better attempt.
I'm very happy for PS4 owners getting to experience it at an eye candy 60fps because at the moment, it's the better system with the more mature developing tools.
Hopefully in a few years with more time and better understanding of how to use the ESRAM and other elements of the hardware, we will see similar quality on the Xbox One. That's not to say that the PS4 won't have improved by the same amount in that time; the PS4 will always look better, but I just want 1080/60 to be hit on both consoles in the (somewhat) near future.
All gamers deserve to experience at 60fps unless it's some RTS or something where it doesn't matter as much.
And yeah, what an amazing GIF.
I know Xbox One can't hit 1080/60 in this game now, but further down the road, say in 2 years or so, if they revisited the project I'm sure they could make a better attempt.
I'm very happy for PS4 owners getting to experience it at an eye candy 60fps because at the moment, it's the better system with the more mature developing tools.
Hopefully in a few years with more time and better understanding of how to use the ESRAM and other elements of the hardware, we will see similar quality on the Xbox One. That's not to say that the PS4 won't have improved by the same amount in that time; the PS4 will always look better, but I just want 1080/60 to be hit on both consoles in the (somewhat) near future.
All gamers deserve to experience at 60fps unless it's some RTS or something where it doesn't matter as much.
And yeah, what an amazing GIF.
Not to derail but I disagree with this.
Perhaps on paper, but at launch no one seemed to be able to get it right for PS4 vs xbox spec comparisons. The press was very misleading, or intentionally vague. Resolution-Gate was a very real thing, and it mislead several people that I know personally.
RedAssedApe
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finally broke down huh. hope major nelson posts
ElTorro reaching ShunniLegend level.
WeAreStarStuff
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Enjoyed this game more than I thought I would on PS3. I'm not the most frame concerned person and was already going to pick it up at 1080p/30fps when cheap, but it being 60fps is a nice bonus.
*I knew this thread was going to be a minefield when I saw the title.
*I knew this thread was going to be a minefield when I saw the title.
3rdamention
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I guess the question is, are developers going to spend the time to really deep dive into the Xbox One architecture to really "cap the potential" (as you put it) for a multiconsole game?
Especially if they can deliver a solid 1080p 30fps experience. Having a pretty solid or locked framerate of 30fps in 1080p can be a great achievement, especially depending on the game and how it looks. However, when the same game is running on the competing system at 1080p and 60fps, that is where all the sudden 1080p 30fps becomes a let down of sorts. At least for people who may not own the competing system.
Its going to come down to whether developers think it is worth the time. Now all of my opinions are based on your idea that developers haven't "capped the potential" of the Xbox One. Again, that is your idea. There could also be the idea raised that maybe they already have figured out the architecture, and maybe they simply cannot reach 1080p at 60fps without sacrifices to the game itself or graphical effects. Then you all the sudden both games running at the same resolution, the same framerate, but one may still simply look better with more graphical effects.
Time will tell, we will all just have to wait and see. I know a few people are hanging on to the Xbox One getting updated drivers. Or it could come down to just getting more familiar with the architecture, figuring out the ESRAM, and even, shall I say, understanding the infinite power of the cloud. Or, the power difference could simply hinder multiconsole games on Xbox One going forward.
CoD: Ghosts being 720p on One and 1080p on PS4, and Battlefield 4 being 720p/900p respectively said everything that needed to be said. Assassin's Creed IV, as well.
This Tomb Raider news is just further confirmation of what we've already known since launch, and hypothesized before that.
geordiemp
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What ?
They are both the same polygon wise, just Ps4 version puts the polygons on the screen twice as fast...
Now, yes, there is a difference, especially when moving your character.
Don't downplay image quality just because your an xbox fan, it reads not too good, but we do need some counter arguments, so please continue...
clutch.as.it.gets.
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If 60 frames for PS4 are true, then i think i will buy it again for my collection despite already owning the 360 version.
turnbuckle
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Well, in some cases you can blame/applaud MS PR for making it seem like there was more to the story. I and you and many others didn't buy the BS but it could have been just enough to convince those that wanted to be convinced. Also, reviewers/journalists did a nice job of minimizing the differences between the two (Gamestop chart being an egregious example, but polygon also giving XB1 a higher rating).
But yeah, in general it's silly to have buyer's remorse over tech specs if you were aware of the situation. Anyone who regularly reads gaf or reddit would be, and it's their own fault if they allowed themselves to get into an echo chamber of denial. There was an ass storm warning predicted months ago. Even if this isn't the storm as predicted, there's been a lot of information out there informing us that the XB1 wouldn't be the most powerful console this generation. Heck, even MS said at one point that graphics weren't the most important concern with the console. Something about all in one device, balance, something something.
They are probably just really angry and aren't thinking rationally right now.
Xbox One owner btw
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