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[Nirolak]

I'm not saying that it doesn't still exist for Wii U, but I followed what Polygon linked as their new confirmation that the game still exists for Wii U, and here's the complete Reuters article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-ubisoft-idUSBREA0Q0MC20140127

Ubisoft says 'watch dogs' game still due in fiscal first-quarter

(Reuters) - France's Ubisoft on Monday declined comment on market talk of possible delay to the release of its "Watch Dogs" game and said it was still set for release in the first quarter of its 2014-15 fiscal year.

"The group does not comment on market rumors," a Ubisoft spokesman said in response to a query from Reuters, after a 4-percent fall in the company's share price. "The game is still expected in the first quarter of fiscal 2014-15."

(Reporting By Gwenaelle Barzic and Alexandre Boksenbaum-Granier; Writing by Brian Love; Editing by Nick Vinocur)

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't actually see where they say it still exists for Wii U.

 

[Xater]

If you actually read the Reuters thing Polygon links as a confirmation it doesn't confirm shit.

 

[NotLiquid]

This is obviously all part of some viral campaign to raise consumer awareness for the Wii U version

 

[btkadams]

Not everyone. As long as Ubisoft have implemented the GamePad features well for a game that's practically made for the controller then the Wii U SKU should be the definitive version. I'll certainly be getting it for the Wii U.

it'd be interesting if that ends up being the case, but i won't hold my breath. i have this preordered for ps4, but i'd buy the wii u version if it's actually that big of a deal. i just don't imagine it happening when no other wii u game i own has taken advantage of the gamepad in any meaningful way.

 

[ElTorro]

The order of events here is weird:

- GameStop error
- Retraction, including Ubisoft confirming to Polygon and Kotaku
- Partial third-party release list doesn't include Watch_Dogs on Wii U
- Emily Rogers says Videogamer gets No comment after the fact
- Trademark abandonment story
- This story which is primarily about how trademark abandonment doesn't mean anything and has a closing tag referencing the above

It doesn't seem like anything has changed here?

1) Ubisoft wanted to stealth-cancel Watch_Dogs for Wii U
2) Nintendo Special Forces led by Reggie infiltrated Ubisoft, stole Yves Guillemot's signature and access code to the USPTO
3) Nintendo blackmailed Ubisoft to cancel the cancelation, threatening to rename the trademark into Assassins Creed U: Cranky Dogs
4) Ubisoft yielded
5) Faked press releases cover everything up

It's obvious

 

[Guevara]

Can someone, anyone, point to the sentence that confirms the Wii U version is coming?

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Great news. Not sure if I'll have my PS4/Xbone by the time it launches, so I'll probably get this for Wii U

Hope the Gamepad has some great features for it

 

[kmax]

The order of events here is weird:

- GameStop error
- Retraction, including Ubisoft confirming to Polygon and Kotaku
- Partial third-party release list doesn't include Watch_Dogs on Wii U
- Emily Rogers says Videogamer gets No comment after the fact
- Trademark abandonment story
- This story which is primarily about how trademark abandonment doesn't mean anything and has a closing tag referencing the above

It doesn't seem like anything has changed here?

It's like going round in circles. We arrive where we started, with all of the whacky stuff in between.

 

[LaNaranja]

Splinter Cell made great use of the gamepad. If they can replicate that with Watch Dogs (and fix the load times) I will be there day 1.

 

[jmizzal]

It's a confirmation from an unreliable narrator though. No article is linked to Polygon's first official confirmation, and no direct quote is given. The author then gives a second piece of evidence that clearly does not back up the statement at all.

What is different then all the no comment articles? They were told that Watch Dogs is still coming to WiiU, other sites were told no comment due to Ubisoft not commenting on rumors, and we know the gamestop thing was said to be an error. So nobody every said it was canceled but yet people rather believe its canceled I dont get it.

 

[sjay1994]

Reading the update

"Mr. Guillemot, however, did not sign the Request for Express Abandonment, nor did Ubisoft Entertainment file the Request for Express Abandonment. The Request for Express Abandonment is fraudulent and was not filed by Ubisoft Entertainment or its representative."

So we got trolled?

 

[cafemomo]

I'm not saying that it doesn't still exist for Wii U, but I followed what Polygon linked as their new confirmation that the game still exists for Wii U, and here's the complete Reuters article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-ubisoft-idUSBREA0Q0MC20140127



Maybe I'm blind, but I don't actually see where they say it still exists for Wii U.

2015?

Mang, pre-order canclled again.

 

[Goldenmoney]

Great news. Now, like everyone else with a Wii U, I'll buy this for PS3 or PS4.

Depending on how the gamepad is used, this might be a bad decision man.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

So it's confirmed that it's still unconfirmed.

 

[Christopher]

Am I not getting something why so much coverage is about this game...its really nothing special

 

[Mlatador]

Can someone, anyone, point to the sentence that confirms the Wii U version is coming?

and even more important to any sentence (not nessecarily in this article) that watch dogs has been cancelled, especially after it was actually confirmed month ago.

 

[Aquamarine]

Can someone, anyone, point to the sentence that confirms the Wii U version is coming?

Last month, reports began circling of GameStop stores in Italy and the U.S. canceling pre-orders for Watch Dogs on Wii U. Ubisoft confirmed with Polygon at the time that the Wii U version had not been canceled, but Nintendo's third quarter financial report published on Jan. 30 did not list Watch Dogs as a Wii U title coming this fiscal year. Ubisoft again confirmed that the game was slated to launch in the first quarter of Ubisoft and Nintendo's fiscal year 2014-2015, which begins in April.

As mentioned before, it's coming from an unreliable narrator. We don't have any direct quotes from Ubisoft that say specifically "The Wii U version is not cancelled and the Wii U SKU will be released in the appropriate fiscal year at the same time as every other SKU."

The fact that Polygon used Reuters as a second "confirmation" when the Reuters link doesn't say anything specifically about the Wii U version is evidence that Polygon's "proof straight from Ubisoft" might be unreliable as well.

 

[kitsuneyo]

I'll buy it on Wii U pending reviews and confirmation it's nothing at all like Assassin's Creed.

 

[Herne]

Well, I intend on getting the Wii U version, so this is good news for me.

 

[sjay1994]

fred, this is nonsense. The game probably runs like garbage and looks worse than the 360 version.

Lol nope

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/432984/watch-dogs-on-wii-u-is-superior-to-current-gen/

The wii U version is confirmed by the creative director to look better than the PS3/360 version. Not to the level of PS4/XBONE/PC... but it will be better than 360/PS3

 

[vgJames]

You mean Assassin's Creed V right? You must mean Assassin's creed V.

 

[krypt0nian]

Yeah reading that article I'm not seeing confirmation of a WiiU port.

 

[McLovin]

Did Nintendo pay Ubisoft to keep development going?

Of course not. Iwata threatened threatened to perform seppuku, then ubisoft was like oookk oooook we'll resume development on the Wii U version.

 

[fred]

Oh god...

It's an opinion, live with it. Ubisoft have shown good use of the GamePad so far, probably the best out of all of the publishers in the industry supporting the console, including Nintendo. The game is all about hacking, mobile devices etc and they have a controller there with a bloody great big touchscreen on it. It's perfect for the game, we've seen from the likes of Arkham City and Deus Ex how good the GamePad is for hacking devices in-game with added immersion. I can't see why Watch Dogs is going to be any different. Arkham City and Deus Ex are miles better in terms of gameplay on the Wii U compared to all other platforms and I'm expecting Watch Dogs to be the same.

 

[jmizzal]

As mentioned before, it's coming from an unreliable narrator. We don't have any direct quotes from Ubisoft that say specifically "The Wii U version is not cancelled and the Wii U SKU will be released in the appropriate fiscal year at the same time as every other SKU."

The fact that Polygon used Reuters as a second "confirmation" when the Reuters link doesn't say anything specifically about the Wii U version is evidence that Polygon's "proof straight from Ubisoft" might be unreliable as well.

But in that same sense we have not quotes about it being cancelled and never have

 

[Guevara]

As mentioned before, it's coming from an unreliable narrator. We don't have any direct quotes from Ubisoft that say specifically "The Wii U version is not cancelled and the Wii U SKU will be released in the appropriate fiscal year at the same time as every other SKU."

The fact that Polygon used Reuters as a second "confirmation" when the Reuters link doesn't say anything specifically about the Wii U version is evidence that Polygon's "proof straight from Ubisoft" might be unreliable as well.

So I'm supposed to believe that despite a bunch of outlets asking for confirmation, Polygon is the only one who got a response? But they don't have a direct quote or anything, it's just something they heard?

Wii U version is cancelled. I'm calling it now.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

*sigh* Polygon gonna Polygon. Let me make this easier for everyone to read on what Polygon's bad phrasing means. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

"Last month, reports began circling of GameStop stores in Italy and the U.S. canceling pre-orders for Watch Dogs on Wii U."

- This is true as presented here: http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/24/report-gamestop-italy-refusing-pre-orders-on-watch-dogs-on-wii/

"Ubisoft confirmed with Polygon at the time that the Wii U version had not been canceled"

- This statement is wrong as nothing was confirmed "at the time" as Ubisoft was not commenting on this rumor. Ubisoft didn't confirm jackshit and this is nothing new. It was Gamestop that backtracked and said it was a glitch in the system: http://kotaku.com/gamestop-is-canceling-watch-dogs-wii-u-pre-orders-this-1508273787

"but Nintendo's third quarter financial report published on Jan. 30 did not list Watch Dogs as a Wii U title coming this fiscal year."

- This is true as presented here: http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/watc...nintendos_official_2014_release_schedule.html

"Ubisoft again confirmed that the game was slated to launch in the first quarter of Ubisoft and Nintendo's fiscal year 2014-2015, which begins in April."

- This is true as presented here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-ubisoft-idUSBREA0Q0MC20140127

 

[Stumpokapow]

I'm not saying that it doesn't still exist for Wii U, but I followed what Polygon linked as their new confirmation that the game still exists for Wii U, and here's the complete Reuters article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-ubisoft-idUSBREA0Q0MC20140127

Maybe I'm blind, but I don't actually see where they say it still exists for Wii U.

You're confused here.

Order of events, again:
- GameStop error
- Retraction, including Ubisoft confirming to Polygon and Kotaku <-- that's where the confirmation was
- Partial third-party release list doesn't include Watch_Dogs on Wii U
- Reuters story says Ubisoft responded to market talk of possible delay of game by saying no, it's not delayed. Wii U not specifically mentioned.
- Emily Rogers says Videogamer gets No comment after the fact, other sites report further no comment from Ubisoft.
- Trademark abandonment story
- This story which is primarily about how trademark abandonment doesn't mean anything and has a closing tag referencing the above

This is not new confirmation that Watch Dogs is coming to Wii U, it's an unrelated article which expresses the previous confirmation they ran last week.

 

[Ecliptor]

Oh Polygon, what have you done.

 

[Mlatador]

but Nintendo's third quarter financial report published on Jan. 30 did not list Watch Dogs as a Wii U title coming this fiscal year.

I haven't followed the financial report THAT closely, but what titles have there been mentioned for this fiscal year? Have they mentioned X, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors? I only heard about Mario Kart 8.

 

[Aquamarine]

and even more important to any sentence (not nessecarily in this article) that watch dogs has been cancelled, especially after it was actually confirmed month ago.

Ubisoft's mature, core games (Assassin's Creed IV and Splinter Cell: Blacklist) sold quite poorly on Wii U over 2013. That sparked the whole discussion on the possible cancellation of the title by Ubisoft.

...If they can't make their money back through Wii U ports of their other major IPs, what financial impetus would they have to put out a Watch_Dogs port?

 

[cyberheater]

If you actually read the Reuters thing Polygon links as a confirmation it doesn't confirm shit.

Yep. They only say we were told by Ubisoft at the time. There is no other proof.

 

[popeutlal]

Finally...a UBI game on Wii U that no one will buy.

 

[Glass Joe]

What is different then all the no comment articles? They were told that Watch Dogs is still coming to WiiU, other sites were told no comment due to Ubisoft not commenting on rumors, and we know the gamestop thing was said to be an error. So nobody every said it was canceled but yet people rather believe its canceled I dont get it.

"No comments" and PR people suddenly not being forthcoming about a topic is pretty typical when it comes to cancellations. I plan on picking up the Wii U sku (as long as it's decent), and I'm suspicious. As for the Gamestop thing, sometimes where there's smoke, there's fire.

 

[Aquamarine]

I haven't followed the financial report THAT closely, but what titles outside have there been mentioned for this fiscal year? Have they mentioned X, Bayonetta 2, Hyrule Warriors? I only heard about Mario Kart 8.

Yes. This is the upcoming release lineup from Nintendo's corporate offices:

No Watch_Dogs on this list. The defense some people gave is that "Titles are always excluded from this list," but Watch_Dogs actually used to be on it for a while...until it was taken off.


Proof:

 

[massoluk]

You're confused here.

Order of events, again:
- GameStop error
- Retraction, including Ubisoft confirming to Polygon and Kotaku <-- that's where the confirmation was
- Partial third-party release list doesn't include Watch_Dogs on Wii U
- Reuters story says Ubisoft responded to market talk of possible delay of game by saying no, it's not delayed. Wii U not specifically mentioned.
- Emily Rogers says Videogamer gets No comment after the fact, other sites report further no comment from Ubisoft.
- Trademark abandonment story
- This story which is primarily about how trademark abandonment doesn't mean anything and has a closing tag referencing the above

This is not new confirmation that Watch Dogs is coming to Wii U, it's an unrelated article which expresses the previous confirmation they ran last week.

The forum is engrossing in some weird logics that is asking people to indulge in proving some double negative.

 

[Hermii]

So GAF got worked up over nothing again?

thisisneogaf.gif

 

[Otakumegane]

I read that as confirmed cancelled.

Messing with my head here.

 

[krypt0nian]

So GAF got worked up over nothing again?

thisisneogaf.gif

Nothing is confirmed.

 

[rvy]

Lol nope

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/432984/watch-dogs-on-wii-u-is-superior-to-current-gen/

The wii U version is confirmed by the creative director to look better than the PS3/360 version. Not to the level of PS4/XBONE/PC... but it will be better than 360/PS3

So it's not the definitive version? Thanks for playing.

Spoiler

We'll see at what cost the game is supposed to look better than the 360 counterpart. Blacklist ran like dogshit.

 

[Pennywise]

Ubisoft's mature, core games (Assassin's Creed IV and Splinter Cell: Blacklist) sold quite poorly on Wii U over 2013. That sparked the whole discussion on the possible cancellation of the title by Ubisoft.

...If they can't make their money back through a Wii U port of their other major IPs, what financial impetus would they have to put out a Watch_Dogs port?

And we got no info yet, what kind of polishing was necessary.
If Ubi was forced to pump even more money into the WiiU version, they might have decided to cancel it.
Well, isn't there an Ubi event coming up ?

 

[Kimppis]

10k sales confirmed. It just makes me wonder does that make any sense financially? That must be Ubisoft's (or anyone else's) last err... "action" (edit: "mature") title on the Wii U. The sales for those type games have so been insanely bad that releasing them won't make any sense. Watch Dogs was expected, though, because they announced it a pretty long time ago.

 

[dacuk]

I hope that is the result of department of Third Party Relationships of Nintendo working to strengthen the already week relationships with developers...

 

[ascii42]

Ubisoft's mature, core games (Assassin's Creed IV and Splinter Cell: Blacklist) sold quite poorly on Wii U over 2013. That sparked the whole discussion on the possible cancellation of the title by Ubisoft.

...If they can't make their money back through a Wii U port of their other major IPs, what financial impetus would they have to put out a Watch_Dogs port?

Well, they've already sunk quite a bit of money into it, so what they should be considering (or have already considered) is how much more money is the WiiU version going to cost them and can they make that money back.

 

[kitsuneyo]

- Retraction, including Ubisoft confirming to Polygon and Kotaku <-- that's where the confirmation was

Can you link either of these stories where Ubisoft confirms?

This story says GameStop confirmed the cancellation was an error, not Ubi - http://kotaku.com/gamestop-is-canceling-watch-dogs-wii-u-pre-orders-this-1508273787

I can't find any Polygon story about this, but maybe I'm missing something.

 

[ElTorro]

No Watch_Dogs on this list. The defense some people gave is that "Titles are always excluded from this list," but Watch_Dogs actually used to be on it for a while...until it was taken off.

Assuming that the cancelation of Watch_Dogs for Wii U is already decided internally, are there any reasons why Ubisoft would want to hold back a press release? I have no overview of Nintendo's potential upcoming events that would make Ubisoft want to avoid bad press for Nintendo out of courtesy.

 

[foxuzamaki]

Great news. Now, like everyone else with a Wii U, I'll buy this for PS3 or PS4.

How bout no, im buying it on wiiU, then later on possibly buy it for PC.

 

[plank]

just came into this thread to say I have no Idea whats going on.

 

[Anth0ny]

I'm happy for the 2000 people who will buy it.

 

[li bur]

This is obviously all part of some viral campaign to raise consumer awareness for the Wii U version

Hahaa, almost felt like all of the recent WD news is ripped out of Scandal Tv series.