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[Aquamarine]

My understanding is that Watch Dogs was the last morsel of third party support the Wii U had left. If Ubisoft are abandoning the Wii U across the board, the situation is more dire than anyone could've predicted.

Ubisoft, Warner Bros., and Activision were the only third-party publishers to pro-actively support Wii U (aka. not moneyhatted with a Nintendo deal) with mature, core games throughout the past holiday season.

If we lose Ubisoft, that's one of the core pillars of its remaining mature, core support. Warner Bros. isn't releasing Arkham Origins DLC anymore (and isn't announcing Wii U support for any of their other mature games), and Ubisoft has already announced The Division and The Crew without a Wii U version....so if Watch_Dogs is cancelled we may only have Activision with Call of Duty as the sole supporter.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Are you interested in Watch Dogs?

I am, I was really looking forward to how it was going to look in comparison to all the other versions, it looked like a fun game to explore in.

I do hope it's still coming to Wii U, but yeah, no denying the evidence pointing to it not being so.

 

[Geek]

Are you the author of the article? You said on twitter that Ubisoft confirmed the Wii U version to Reuters last week! Now I'm confused.

I am not. I am the Deputy News Editor. As for Twitter, it appears that Alexa Ray merely intended to affirm Ubi's statement that Watch Dogs was due during a certain quarter and still coming out.

We do not know if the Wii U version is canceled or not because Ubisoft won't respond to requests for clarification.

 

[baphomet]

I am not. I am the Deputy News Editor. As for Twitter, it appears that Alexa Ray merely intended to affirm Ubi's statement that Watch Dogs was due during a certain quarter and still coming out.

We do not know if the Wii U version is canceled or not because Ubisoft won't respond to requests for clarification.

Which sure sounds like it's canceled to me.

 

[adamsapple]

Every time I feel down, I rewatch that Ayesha Tyler trailer and it makes me all happy inside..

 

[Proven]

Real talk guys, why does anyone care about this? I can only imagine the number of people (particularly on Neogaf) that ONLY own a Wii U and/or do not have access to one of the 5 other platforms it's releasing on is ZERO. I was under the impression Black Flag U was objectively inferior to the PS360 versions, and there's no reason to believe this would have been any different. In summary, who really gives a shit if it is or isn't canceled?

I'm curious to see what comes out of their second screen aspirations and if they actually use the Wii U gamepad well. If not, then I'll probably hold off on the game entirely for a couple months.

 

[ultratruman]

I am not. I am the Deputy News Editor. As for Twitter, it appears that Alexa Ray merely intended to affirm Ubi's statement that Watch Dogs was due during a certain quarter and still coming out.

We do not know if the Wii U version is canceled or not because Ubisoft won't respond to requests for clarification.

'GameStop said Wii U version was not canceled. Ubi told Reuters it's still on track for spring'. Don't really feel the need to argue about pronouns here, it's clear from the context Alexa was referring to the Wii U version being on track.

Not replying to requests for information is pretty telling though. Starting to doubt the Wii U version is even being considered anymore.

 

[shinra-bansho]

we may only have Activision with Call of Duty as the sole supporter.

While COD is one of the most platform-agnostic titles, if you're an Activision exec though, and you look at last November's NPD and you see this, in terms of attach rates:

XBO 	43.12%
PS4 	39.63%
360	8.36%
PS3 	7.36%
Wii U 	1.24%

...do you bother greenlighting a Wii U SKU?

Or do you devote those development resources to making the other SKUs better, or finishing them faster, or making DLC to sell to the people who buy the game on the Xbox or PS platforms.

 

[RMS Gigantic]

While COD is one of the most platform-agnostic titles, if you're an Activision exec though, and you look at last November's NPD and you see this, in terms of attach rates:

XBO 	43.12%
PS4 	39.63%
360	8.36%
PS3 	7.36%
Wii U 	1.24%

...do you bother greenlighting a Wii U SKU?

Or do you devote those development resources to making the other SKUs better, or finishing them faster, or making DLC to sell to the people who buy the game on the Xbox or PS platforms.

People wondered the same thing when the Wii U had a 5% attach rate for Call of Duty: Black Ops II.

 

[shinra-bansho]

People wondered the same thing when the Wii U had a 5% attach rate for Call of Duty: Black Ops II.

It was already questionable at a 5% rate. But perhaps they were willing to see whether there'd be growth in absolute numbers as installed base grew.

A year and a bit ago the franchise sold around 25k or so on 0.5M systems. Fast forward a year to Ghosts and the franchise sold... around 25k or so on 2M systems.

You have a low attach rate on a small installed base with no signs of growth for your franchise as the number of owners expands (incredibly slowly).

 

[TetraGenesis]

I am not. I am the Deputy News Editor. As for Twitter, it appears that Alexa Ray merely intended to affirm Ubi's statement that Watch Dogs was due during a certain quarter and still coming out.

We do not know if the Wii U version is canceled or not because Ubisoft won't respond to requests for clarification.

GRIFFIN MOTHERFUCKING MCELROY!!

 

[EDarkness]

While COD is one of the most platform-agnostic titles, if you're an Activision exec though, and you look at last November's NPD and you see this, in terms of attach rates:

XBO 	43.12%
PS4 	39.63%
360	8.36%
PS3 	7.36%
Wii U 	1.24%

...do you bother greenlighting a Wii U SKU?

Or do you devote those development resources to making the other SKUs better, or finishing them faster, or making DLC to sell to the people who buy the game on the Xbox or PS platforms.

You keep bringing this stuff up, but really, they didn't even try with the Wii U version. Why the hell would anyone even bother if Activision wasn't going to bother? It's all on them. The Wii U version wasn't getting any new maps, or any real support. Though, one of the devs did try to keep Wii U guys in the loop, but why would anyone support a game that wasn't going to be supported anyway? They did this shit to themselves. I still can't even believe I bought the game knowing damn good and well it wasn't going to be supported. Not even with free maps....

As a consumer (which is all that should matter to us) the value proposition for the Wii U version wasn't there. No one to blame but Activision. On top of that, their games STILL aren't on the eShop.

 

[Quadraphonic]

You keep bringing this stuff up, but really, they didn't even try with the Wii U version. Why the hell would anyone even bother if Activision wasn't going to bother? It's all on them. The Wii U version wasn't getting any new maps, or any real support. Though, one of the devs did try to keep Wii U guys in the loop, but why would anyone support a game that wasn't going to be supported anyway? They did this shit to themselves. I still can't even believe I bought the game knowing damn good and well it wasn't going to be supported. Not even with free maps....

As a consumer (which is all that should matter to us) the value proposition for the Wii U version wasn't there. No one to blame but Activision. On top of that, their games STILL aren't on the eShop.

It's been repeated time and time again that being the worst version doesn't matter.
Last gen, every console had the worst versions of some games, but that didn't lead to a huge sales discrepancy. Even if COD was the lead platform on the Wii U and came with FREE DLC, the sales would barely be any higher. The audience either doesn't care about COD or they already own another console where it's easier to play online.

 

[Nirolak]

GRIFFIN MOTHERFUCKING MCELROY!!

Wrong person haha.

 

[EDarkness]

It's been repeated time and time again that being the worst version doesn't matter.
Last gen, every console had the worst versions of some games, but that didn't lead to a huge sales discrepancy. Even if COD was the lead platform on the Wii U and came with FREE DLC, the sales would barely be any higher. The audience either doesn't care about COD or they already own another console where it's easier to play online.

The issue here is support. There isn't any. Even with bad versions of games, people know they're getting and will get something better down the line. This isn't the case with Wii U games. They're consistently getting the shaft. We were told right off the bat that the Wii U version wasn't going to be getting DLC. You think people who got burned before are gonna jump on that version of the game? On top of the perception that there aren't even Wii U versions of these games? I picked up CoD Ghosts at GameStop and the guys there didn't even know there was a Wii U version of the game. That means a lot when it comes down to it.

Activision pimped the hell out of the PS4 and XOne versions of Ghosts. You better believe people were more excited...even if it ended up being gimped in some way. No one was doing that with the Wii U version.

 

[Jigorath]

Ubisoft, Warner Bros., and Activision were the only third-party publishers to pro-actively support Wii U (aka. not moneyhatted with a Nintendo deal) with mature, core games throughout the past holiday season.

If we lose Ubisoft, that's one of the core pillars of its remaining mature, core support. Warner Bros. isn't releasing Arkham Origins DLC anymore (and isn't announcing Wii U support for any of their other mature games), and Ubisoft has already announced The Division and The Crew without a Wii U version....so if Watch_Dogs is cancelled we may only have Activision with Call of Duty as the sole supporter.

Kind of funny how Activision might end up as the WiiU's biggest supporter. Wouldn't have guess that a year ago.

 

[Quadraphonic]

The issue here is support. There isn't any. Even with bad versions of games, people know they're getting and will get something better down the line. This isn't the case with Wii U games. They're consistently getting the shaft. We were told right off the bat that the Wii U version wasn't going to be getting DLC. You think people who got burned before are gonna jump on that version of the game? On top of the perception that there aren't even Wii U versions of these games? I picked up CoD Ghosts at GameStop and the guys there didn't even know there was a Wii U version of the game. That means a lot when it comes down to it.

Activision pimped the hell out of the PS4 and XOne versions of Ghosts. You better believe people were more excited...even if it ended up being gimped in some way. No one was doing that with the Wii U version.

So why did YOU buy it?

 

[shinra-bansho]

You keep bringing this stuff up, but really, they didn't even try with the Wii U version. Why the hell would anyone even bother if Activision wasn't going to bother? It's all on them. The Wii U version wasn't getting any new maps, or any real support. Though, one of the devs did try to keep Wii U guys in the loop, but why would anyone support a game that wasn't going to be supported anyway? They did this shit to themselves. I still can't even believe I bought the game knowing damn good and well it wasn't going to be supported. Not even with free maps....

As a consumer (which is all that should matter to us) the value proposition for the Wii U version wasn't there. No one to blame but Activision. On top of that, their games STILL aren't on the eShop.

Again with this "blame" thing. The reality is the same no matter who you want to blame.

If you still want to pretend this isn't an audience issue and is due to the user base being made up of connoisseurs that's your prerogative.

The lessor treatment of the PS3 SKU for a generation didn't lead to such poor numbers.

And games like Just Dance didn't have the same problems.

 

[Shiggy]

As a consumer (which is all that should matter to us) the value proposition for the Wii U [...] wasn't there.

I think that's the reason why 3rd party games aren't selling. The lack of an audience.

 

[Herb Alpert]

What a thrilling story! Who knows what the outcome will be?
Sadly I see 2 :
Watch_dogs WiiU is canned, nintendo is doomed all over again
Watch_dogs WiiU is released and is horribly gimped, nintendo is doomed all over again

Let's be honest, it's highly likely the timle they to polish it is not devoted to the wiiU version.

Perhaps they will go on not commenting over it, hoping everyone just forget about the WiiU version.

 

[xValentine]

What I don't get is why the fuck Ubisoft or Nintendo isn't clearing this up.

Is it cancelled?

"lol no."

"yes, because reasons".

 

[Glass Joe]

What I don't get is why the fuck Ubisoft or Nintendo isn't clearing this up.

Is it cancelled?

"lol no."

"yes, because reasons".

That's because it's probably cancelled. Ubisoft will wait until their financial meeting on the 10th, so they have a lot of additional press for other titles to distract. Nintendo isn't going to confirm a cancellation because they feel it's not their place to comment on 3rd party decisions.

 

[RE_Player]

This story is becoming hilarious. I own a Wii U and have zero interest in this version of Watch_Dogs but am dying to know if it's truly cancelled or not.

Spoiler

It probably is.

 

[EDarkness]

Again with this "blame" thing. The reality is the same no matter who you want to blame.

If you still want to pretend this isn't an audience issue and is due to the user base being made up of connoisseurs that's your prerogative.

The lessor treatment of the PS3 SKU for a generation didn't lead to such poor numbers.

And games like Just Dance didn't have the same problems.

It's a whole different situation than back then. Even amidst the PS3 having "no games", there were still games they were getting by proxy. Even in light of shitty versions compared to the Xbox 360 players knew they were going to be getting games and getting supported (basically). The Dreamcast suffered the same fate as the Wii U (no versions of games were coming...perception that it was weak against the PS2, rumors of Sega getting out of the business, EA not supporting the system, etc.) Same with the Jaguar, 3DO, TG-16 and a bunch of "failed" systems over the years. You think those things don't have any affect on how or why people buy software?

In contrast, the Just Dance audience is getting served and I assume are relatively happy. That version is being promoted, catered to, and properly served with content. Why would they be upset? If you read Miiverse, people are constantly bitching about not getting DLC (even free DLC) in CoD. These guys are upset, and ultimately taking their money somewhere else. I can't blame them, either. It's not like Activision is even promoting that version, either.

It's not a matter of being "connoisseurs". It's a matter of perception and support. Neither of which is a problem the other systems are having or were having years ago. It was rare that PS3 owners missed out on DLC, or were told up front they weren't getting support. Sure their version of the game may have been janky as hell, but at least they were getting support. They lost some exclusives, but they were still getting games and games were getting announced relatively often. How often did people have to hope and pray that there was going to be a PS3 version of a game every time there was an announcement? As an early PS3 owner, I don't remember ever having that problem.

So why did YOU buy it?

I ask myself that question all the time. The short answer is I wanted to use the remote and nunchuck. I guess I just like punishment. Heh, heh.

 

[jimi_dini]

Real talk guys, why does anyone care about this? I can only imagine the number of people (particularly on Neogaf) that ONLY own a Wii U and/or do not have access to one of the 5 other platforms it's releasing on is ZERO.

I have a PS3, but why should I buy the game on a last gen platform?

If it's a great game, I would only buy it on Wii U. If it's something like AssCreed, they can keep it.

 

[cyberheater]

Yep. It's cancelled.

 

[Chindogg]

I think that's the reason why 3rd party games aren't selling. The lack of an audience.

Yet there's a lack of an audience because there's a lack of content available. It's a terrible self-fulfilling prophecy.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

oh god this has just gotten embarrassing now :/

 

[cyberheater]

Yet there's a lack of an audience because there's a lack of content available. It's a terrible self-fulfilling prophecy.

I've come to the conclusion that a vast number of gamers simply don't care about Mario and Nintendo's IP's. So any home console based on those franchises without good third party support will fail.

 

[baphomet]

I have a PS3, but why should I buy the game on a last gen platform?

If it's a great game, I would only buy it on Wii U. If it's something like AssCreed, they can keep it.

Because most games perform better on the last gen console than the Wii U?

 

[SmokyDave]

I have a PS3, but why should I buy the game on a last gen platform?

'Cause it looks and runs better. Far more important than when your other platform was released.

That said, maybe Ubi will surprise us and the Wii U port will perform better than PS3 / 360. I wouldn't hold my breath though.

 

[Aaron]

I've come to the conclusion that a vast number of gamers simply don't care about Mario and Nintendo's IP's. So any home console based on those franchises without good third party support will fail.

Nintendo admitted to not hooking the younger generation. Kids these days, at least in the US, have a vague idea who Mario is at best. Pokemon is still a draw for kids, but the console versions have always been shit. While many people who played Nintendo games in their youth have moved on to mature franchises, or moved away from console gaming period.

 

[jimi_dini]

'Cause it looks and runs better. Far more important than when your other platform was released.

You have played both versions? Incredible.

Hint: Watch Dogs uses a new engine. Which will be designed for current gen and not last gen. And I would assume that it's nothing like the piece of shit Unreal Engine.

I currently expect it to feature casual dumbed down gameplay, just like the AssCreed series. So don't worry, Wii U won't get a sale. Currently I don't think that I will buy it at all.

Anyway what's even more important to me personally is that I can play my games on the follow-up platform. And Sony has a horrible track record on this. Nintendo however did it perfectly for their last 2 console generations. And I didn't expect them to handle digital content so well. Actually I expected Sony to handle it like Nintendo actually did.

 

[Sephiroth503]

You have played both versions? Incredible.

Hint: Watch Dogs uses a new engine. Which will be designed for current gen and not last gen. And I would assume that it's nothing like the piece of shit Unreal Engine.

I currently expect it to feature casual dumbed down gameplay, just like the AssCreed series. So don't worry, Wii U won't get a sale. Currently I don't think that I will buy it at all.

Anyway what's even more important to me personally is that I can play my games on the follow-up platform. And Sony has a horrible track record on this. Nintendo however did it perfectly for their last 2 console generations. And I didn't expect them to handle digital content so well. Actually I expected Sony to handle it like Nintendo actually did.

I don't understand the last statement, is this a criticism of Sony's backward compatibility? PS4 is the first one they've had to drop it, hardly a horrible track record.

 

[jimi_dini]

I don't understand the last statement, is this a criticism of Sony's backward compatibility? PS4 is the first one they've had to drop it, hardly a horrible track record.

For you, maybe.

I live in Europe. Even the expensive 600 EUR PS3s (more expensive than $599) had horrible backward compatibility, because they replaced parts of the hardware with broken software emulation. So yes, my point stands.

 

[Sephiroth503]

For you, maybe.

I live in Europe. Even the expensive 600 EUR PS3s (more expensive than $599) had horrible backward compatibility, because they replaced parts of the hardware with broken software emulation. So yes, my point stands.

I live in Europe too, PS3 phat played PS1/2/3 games and now some PS2 titles can be played through emulation on any PS3, you can only support previous hardware so much? If ones back catalog is that valued surely you would still have the old console to play on.

Regardless of this I think Dave's point is very valid, there is no indication whatsoever that WD WiiU will look/run better than its PS3/360 counterparts.

 

[SmokyDave]

You have played both versions? Incredible.

I like the bit where you cut the context out of my post.

For you, maybe.

I live in Europe. Even the expensive 600 EUR PS3s (more expensive than $599) had horrible backward compatibility, because they replaced parts of the hardware with broken software emulation. So yes, my point stands.

Your point being that you don't really care about buying the game, but you want it compatible with future platforms?

Still, makes no odds to me. I'll buy it on PS4 and probably forget it even existed in 18 months. Launch game is launch game.

 

[mao2]

You have played both versions? Incredible.

Hint: Watch Dogs uses a new engine. Which will be designed for current gen and not last gen. And I would assume that it's nothing like the piece of shit Unreal Engine.

I currently expect it to feature casual dumbed down gameplay, just like the AssCreed series. So don't worry, Wii U won't get a sale. Currently I don't think that I will buy it at all.

Anyway what's even more important to me personally is that I can play my games on the follow-up platform. And Sony has a horrible track record on this. Nintendo however did it perfectly for their last 2 console generations. And I didn't expect them to handle digital content so well. Actually I expected Sony to handle it like Nintendo actually did.

Nintendo removed Gamecube compatibility for later versions of Wii. I wouldn't call that perfect.

 

[BGBW]

As a result of clicking on this Polygon thread the Google Overlords have decided to advertise to me Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Honestly if it's been cancelled I wouldn't be surprised. Only reason why I see it will not be is that they feel that they are too far in production to cancel it and they are better off making some money from it rather than none at all.

 

[LoveCake]

Strange things seem to be happening with WatchDogs in the last few weeks, i wonder whats 'really' going on because something isn't right at all.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

Nintendo removed Gamecube compatibility for later versions of Wii. I wouldn't call that perfect.

After 5 years Nintendo removed the gamecube compability from the Wii. It think everyone who has the appetite to play GC games on a Wii had already bought one.

I don't know whats going on with Watch Dogs. But I think the Wii U version will not be canceled. It one of the first versions they started with and is probably already finished. By the way, the developers mentioned that the Wii U version is graphically between the PS360 and PSONE versions.

 

[BGBW]

Strange things seem to be happening with WatchDogs in the last few weeks, i wonder whats 'really' going on because something isn't right at all.

This is a massive viral campaign to get everyone talking about the Wii U version of Watch_Dogs.

 

[Ironjam]

After 5 years Nintendo removed the gamecube compability from the Wii. It think everyone who has the appetite to play GC games on a Wii had already bought one.

I don't know whats going on with Watch Dogs. But I think the Wii U version will not be canceled. It one of the first versions they started with and is probably already finished. By the way, the developers mentioned that the Wii U version is graphically between the PS360 and PSONE versions.

Around Playstation 2 or Gamecube level graphics then? Not bad.

Spoiler

Yes i know what you meant, but couldnt resist

 

[jvm]

so if Watch_Dogs is cancelled we may only have Activision with Call of Duty as the sole supporter.

I'm with shinra-bansho...why would you expect Activision to continue to do this?

The only reason I can think is that somehow Nintendo and Activision cut a deal that includes both Skylanders and Call of Duty.

The Wii U release schedule is going to be barren soon, I fear. Like Atari Jaguar in 1996 barren.

 

[shinra-bansho]

It's a whole different situation than back then. Even amidst the PS3 having "no games", there were still games they were getting by proxy. Even in light of shitty versions compared to the Xbox 360 players knew they were going to be getting games and getting supported (basically). The Dreamcast suffered the same fate as the Wii U (no versions of games were coming...perception that it was weak against the PS2, rumors of Sega getting out of the business, EA not supporting the system, etc.) Same with the Jaguar, 3DO, TG-16 and a bunch of "failed" systems over the years. You think those things don't have any affect on how or why people buy software?

In contrast, the Just Dance audience is getting served and I assume are relatively happy. That version is being promoted, catered to, and properly served with content. Why would they be upset? If you read Miiverse, people are constantly bitching about not getting DLC (even free DLC) in CoD. These guys are upset, and ultimately taking their money somewhere else. I can't blame them, either. It's not like Activision is even promoting that version, either.

It's not a matter of being "connoisseurs". It's a matter of perception and support. Neither of which is a problem the other systems are having or were having years ago. It was rare that PS3 owners missed out on DLC, or were told up front they weren't getting support. Sure their version of the game may have been janky as hell, but at least they were getting support. They lost some exclusives, but they were still getting games and games were getting announced relatively often. How often did people have to hope and pray that there was going to be a PS3 version of a game every time there was an announcement? As an early PS3 owner, I don't remember ever having that problem.

You think that only 25K people are buying COD on the platform, while there's some large disgruntled segment whose needs aren't being met. I'm not sure where these droves of people aren't taking their money, since they're not buying any of the other AAA titles from third parties on the platform either.

I think that only 25K people are buying COD on the platform because that's the limit of sales the audience for the title and titles like it can support. While there's a larger audience on the platform that's been cultivated for games like Just Dance and LEGO.

We'll have to agree to disagree, once again.

I don't think the perception of "no support" doesn't play any role; but I would say that would play much earlier in the purchase decision process i.e. the lack of support impacts hardware sales, as people will simply buy the platform that does have the games they want instead. Or not buy the new platform, since they already have a platform that's perfectly serviceable and it doesn't provide significant impetus for transition. Whatever role it does play in software sales of games releasing for the platform that people have already shelled out money for, I don't think it's the major impediment - as opposed to people just buying the types of software they want, and there just being less people on the platform that want games like COD.

 

[jimi_dini]

I like the bit where you cut the context out of my post.

The second part wasn't important. You were saying that I should buy it on PS3, because the game will quite likely look and perform better on last gen hardware. Which just doesn't make sense considering that it's using a new engine and Wii U should perform better in that case.

If it doesn't in this case, then it's the fault of the developer for doing sloppy work. In any case, the game is not out, which means it's far more likely that it will look and perform better on current gen consoles, which are Wii U, PS4 and Bone.

Your point being that you don't really care about buying the game, but you want it compatible with future platforms?

I care enough to post in here. If the game is digital world AssCreed, then yes I wouldn't buy it. If it's great, then I will buy it. On Wii U. If they don't release it on that platform, I won't buy it at all. Simple as that.

I'll buy it on PS4 and probably forget it even existed in 18 months. Launch game is launch game.

I thought PS4 was launched last year.

I live in Europe too, PS3 phat played PS1/2/3 games

it "played" some of them. It wasn't proper backward compatibility. Proper backward compatibility is at least 99.99% and no graphical glitches, slowdowns and other crap. Like PS2. And like PS3 fat released in US and Japan, which had all of the required PS2 hardware inside. But thanks to regional lockout, I wasn't even able to import one from there.

If ones back catalog is that valued surely you would still have the old console to play on.

Why should I have to do that in 2014, especially for digital content? I'm thankful that some companies do a proper job and I don't have to keep old iPhones around just to use software, that I bought before. What's worse is that Sony+MS will pull the plug on PS3-PSN and 360-Xbox Live at some point and then all of that will be gone for good as soon as your hardware breaks.

Nintendo removed Gamecube compatibility for later versions of Wii. I wouldn't call that perfect.

5 years after the release. Yes, removing it at all isn't perfect, but at least there are 90 million or so Wiis out there with perfect compatibility. And compared to everyone else on the market, that makes them the king in that aspect. And this gen, well Sony + Microsoft aren't even trying, instead they will sell a few games again on the new consoles, which I consider a rip-off. Yahtzee said that there may be PS1+PS2 software emulation coming for PS4. If that's true and it's working almost perfectly, then that would change my opinion. But I doubt that.

 

[SmokyDave]

The second part wasn't important. You were saying that I should buy it on PS3, because the game will quite likely look and perform better on last gen hardware. Which just doesn't make sense considering that it's using a new engine and Wii U should perform better in that case.

If it doesn't in this case, then it's the fault of the developer for doing sloppy work. In any case, the game is not out, which means it's far more likely that it will look and perform better on current gen consoles, which are Wii U, PS4 and Bone.

You asked why you'd buy it on a last-gen platform. I gave you a reason. The overwhelming precedent is that the Wii U version will run or look worse than the PS3 / 360 versions. If that isn't the case, then it won't be a reason.

I care enough to post in here. If the game is digital world AssCreed, then yes I wouldn't buy it. If it's great, then I will buy it. On Wii U. If they don't release it on that platform, I won't buy it at all. Simple as that.

Fair enough. Seems a bit weird to miss out on the game if it looks great but doesn't hit Wii U, but to each his own.

I thought PS4 was launched last year.

It was. This is a cross-gen title though, and very probably the first in a franchise. I think it'll be a pretty cool game, but I don't expect people to still be crazy for it in a couple of years time, much less when the next generation rolls around.

 

[Nostremitus]

I'd spend more money on the game if it hits Wii U, otherwise I'll wait for it to bomba on PC.

 

[EBreda]

I really think WatchDogs *should* be canceled for the WiiU.

We all know it'll sell nothing and it might be the one indicator that every 3rd party uses to justify dropping system support for good. It's worse than not having the game at all.

If it *is* cancelled, on the other hand, WiiU will probably still be seen as a viable young demographic targeted console, and at least we'll get the next Rayman installment or something. Better than nothing I guess.

 

[kinggroin]

I've come to the conclusion that a vast number of gamers simply don't care about Mario and Nintendo's IP's. So any home console based on those franchises without good third party support will fail.

I wouldn't say fail, but I don't see a console that's just Nintendo software break 30 million. This is taking into consideration that they can pump out software faster after the development consolidation.