LordOfChaos
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Ah! Excite!
Animation and art direction look pretty different from last arc Super, but it is just a teaser so the movie may be different after corrections. But the motion is very good.
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New Dragon Ball Super movie trailer
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Ah! Excite!
Animation and art direction look pretty different from last arc Super, but it is just a teaser so the movie may be different after corrections. But the motion is very good.
The Sane Psycho
Banned
I'm really excited, but also a little disappointed because I thought the new movie was going to be about the original Super Saiyan/Super Saiyan God, Yamoshi.
Kotzen Ducha
Banned
I really hate Super's designs and animation.
Much like GT, they sucked the soul out of Dragon Ball.
This teaser does look a little better and there's no glossy Goku, but I'm not holding my breath for anything hand-drawn with a creator's touch of life.
Much like GT, they sucked the soul out of Dragon Ball.
This teaser does look a little better and there's no glossy Goku, but I'm not holding my breath for anything hand-drawn with a creator's touch of life.
LordOfChaos
Member
Yeah I wonder about that. Could be it's about both with some flash back parts explaining the new villain. If it was a deliberate plant, I don't see why they wouldn't have waited a few more days till the last episode was over.
Really? I loved Super especially the last Arc. I think it is at its best now.
As for the movie. It looks strange. He seems to be just want to fight and that there is nothing on stage? Really need a real trailer to see whats about it. But I need some danger^^
also: Is this Broly?
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Kotzen Ducha
Banned
Yeah.
The show is almost self-parody at this point.
At one point in time it was about training hard, building friendships, and winning tournaments based on skill.
Ever since Frieza it has been increasingly about POWERING UP and TAPPING INTO ENERGY RESERVES.
HE'S OUT OF ENERGY! NO WAIT HE HAS A SECRET RESERVE! x10000
Also hope it isn't Broly.
We've had Broly, Bio Broly, and Femme Broly.
Basoes
Member
but we haven't had animal broly
WaterAstro
Member
Uh, I got nothing out of that. Goku doesn't even look like he's under pressure.
My first anime experience was the Brolly movie, and that shit was super badass. The three super movies were nowhere near how menacing Brolly was, of course two of them became a part of the anime series.
My first anime experience was the Brolly movie, and that shit was super badass. The three super movies were nowhere near how menacing Brolly was, of course two of them became a part of the anime series.
LordOfChaos
Member
I'm 99% sure it's not Brolly. Maybe the Saiyan who killed the first Saiyan god Yamoshi, or something related to that prehistoric plot tying into the future.
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TheShadowLord
Member
maybe it's just me but if that is a saiyan, I kind of would like it to be Bardock.
Codes 208
Member
The first time i saw it, sure. But years later in hindsight i now realize that broly is one of the worst movie villain that panders to the lowest common denominator which is muscles and power levels. For starters, outside of being born with a power level 10k, his power was never earned, hes just powerful for the sake of it. His backstory is garbage (hes mad at goku only because he cried as a baby.) And by the end and all sequels he has had the vocabulary of a pokemon. And the ending makes no sense. Goku and everyone got roflstomped in minutes and as everyone slowly trickled their power into goku, by the end of it, he had enough to power to one-shot broly.
And the worst part is this asshat gets not 1 but 3 movies. Dont get me started on how shitty those are.
Frankly now the only broly movie i can watch is the abridged version. "MY POWER IS MAXIMUMER!"
Jon Neu
Banned
I can't never understand the "Broly is all muscles and maximum power" critics.
I mean, he is portrayed as a super powerful psychopath, he literally says he is a demon. That's his personality and I think that's amazing. He is basically the legendary Super Saiyan, and saiyans were a evil and cruel race to begin with, so makes sense that the legendary Super Saiyan it's even more evil and cruel. And his design is amazing.
The first Broly movie is awesome, the other 2 are crap.
Codes 208
Member
Hes got the personality of a wet napkin. Frail and practically non-existent. His goal in life is to beat goku because he woke him up as a baby. Its as if they got lazy with the background and came up with that at the very last second. His dad makes more sense because king vegeta tried to kill him and his son, but not broly.
The only thing going for broly IS his design. A bulky manly he-man man "legendary" super saiyan because...Reasons.
Jon Neu
Banned
That's the point, he is a creature of pure evil and destruction, that's his personality. And Goku made Broly cry because he sensed his potential.
And what do you mean because reasons? Every character in the entire Dragon Ball franchise is created because reasons.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
I don’t know, it could be good but does Goku also make this Foe an ally?? We’ll see
LordOfChaos
Member
strange headache
Banned
I love the more animation friendly art-style. It reminds me of Toriyama's original work and means we'll me getting a lot more fluid animation. After the series' finale I'm very much looking forward to this.
Dubloon7
Banned
be revived like every other character in this series
TrainedRage
Banned
Never jumped on the DB hype train, now I feel like i'm too old. 
Lokimaru
Member
What, You don't think that takes skill? They still train hard, build friendships and win tournaments based on skill (OK they basically won the last one by bum rushing a ring out but still but it took skill to get to that point)
Cleared_Hot
Member
I don't know what it is but the animation loooooks so bad. The old stuff looked so good. What is happening?! It just looks sloppy.
ObscureProject
Neo Member
It honestly would take you a fuck load of time to work through the series, but most westerners really started the series in the Z saga, and you'd be okay to start there (especially because they remastered the series in HD).Never jumped on the DB hype train, now I feel like i'm too old.
At the least you could start with some of the more recent movies to see if it's your jive.
Codes 208
Member
Who would revive him? Why would he be an antagonist?
I disagree. Its the type of artstyle that focuses more on the fluidity of the motion rather than highly detailed stills. Whioe at the same time being simple yet stylized. It looks like traditional dbz through and through and ill gladly take it over the glossy looking style of dbs.
Dubloon7
Banned
whoever said Bardock, or whoever that is, will be an antagonist? Goku has a smile on his face and friendly bout to occur, so what i think that will be will be a friend he gets to fight to test both of their skill. Father/son bout would make him smile to beat his dad's ass. LOL
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LordOfChaos
Member
Just to clarify because I'm wondering this about most people critiquing the animation - do you mean the animation, or the art style?
The animation, to me, looks very good, there's subtle movement in a lot of places that Super never had even at its best, it lends an air of lightness and fluidity, not quite like but more similar to a Studio Ghibli film.
The /art style/, now that I could see being contentious, if you like the hard bold lines of late Super.
Kotzen Ducha
Banned
I mean both when I say it.
Modern animation is missing a ton of frames and Super uses a ton of tricks to try and make up for that fact.
In Ep130 there are several scenes where Goku and Jiren are static and there are flashes and sound effects to signify combat that is so fast we can't see it.
Of course, I thought 131 was the best directing and animation in the entire run of Super.
Some really smart decisions stylistically as well.
Modern animation is missing a ton of frames and Super uses a ton of tricks to try and make up for that fact.
In Ep130 there are several scenes where Goku and Jiren are static and there are flashes and sound effects to signify combat that is so fast we can't see it.
Of course, I thought 131 was the best directing and animation in the entire run of Super.
Some really smart decisions stylistically as well.
Geki-D
Banned
Honestly, I'm surprised so many people had problems with Goku Time but so few people seem to care about the fact that Super is pretty much all Goku. How powerful can Goku get? Can Goku beat this guy? What is Goku up to right now? Blah, blah, blah. And now I guess "Earth has Goku"
I've already said this in another thread, but could we maybe go back to Gohan being the most powerful character or something else? Maybe Vegeta could actually win a fight?
I've already said this in another thread, but could we maybe go back to Gohan being the most powerful character or something else? Maybe Vegeta could actually win a fight?
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You just can not do it on a weekly schedule. Just watch this video about the last episode and count how many animators were involved in these 20 minutes. Everyone using their own styles etc.I mean both when I say it.
Modern animation is missing a ton of frames and Super uses a ton of tricks to try and make up for that fact.
In Ep130 there are several scenes where Goku and Jiren are static and there are flashes and sound effects to signify combat that is so fast we can't see it.
Of course, I thought 131 was the best directing and animation in the entire run of Super.
Some really smart decisions stylistically as well.
LordOfChaos
Member
I mean both when I say it.
Modern animation is missing a ton of frames and Super uses a ton of tricks to try and make up for that fact.
In Ep130 there are several scenes where Goku and Jiren are static and there are flashes and sound effects to signify combat that is so fast we can't see it.
Of course, I thought 131 was the best directing and animation in the entire run of Super.
Some really smart decisions stylistically as well.
That's what I'm saying though - the teaser for the movie has movement and subtleness that Super never did, so I'm wondering if the critiques of the movie teaser are really about the animation or about the art style. Super did use a lot of corner cuts, even at its best, but this is about the movie teaser.
I think the animation itself from the short clip is really quite good, and what people think is them disliking the animation is more them disliking the lighter art direction.
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Kotzen Ducha
Banned
I get what you're saying. A teaser is a teaser is a teaser.
No idea how the movie is going to turn out.
I think the style choices are improved in the teaser and I thought a lot of style choices in 131 were the best of the series.
I hope we keep on this upward trend. Late DB and early Z are works of art and are a high bar hanging over the new series.