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Dr. Samuel Hayden · Wednesday at 10:51 PM

Sony leadership has a "desire for revenge" against Bungie over live service problems as PlayStation staff push back against the decision to end Destiny 2 support - Report

Sony leadership reportedly has major frustration with Bungie over live service issues, while some PlayStation staff are said to be pushing back against the end of Destiny 2 support.

thegamepost.com

Brigandier · Wednesday at 10:52 PM

Bungle

Zacfoldor · Wednesday at 10:53 PM

I believe it.

Bungie took Sony for a ride and it has been a PR nightmare ever since.

Gaiff · Wednesday at 10:53 PM

Yeah, not buying that Sony would want revenge on Bungie for screwing up. Way too petty.

GrayChild · Wednesday at 10:54 PM

"Bungie"?

More like "fuck you, you're done" amirite?

Banjo64 · Wednesday at 10:54 PM

What sort of imbecilic company 'seeks revenge' against their own subsidiary who they have 100% control over? Makes no sense. Sony should be pissed at themselves for their own mismanagement and that's it.

BennyBlanco · Wednesday at 10:54 PM

bungie would be out of business by now if they had to stand on their own 2 feet. The highlight of their output from the last 5 years is Pete Parsons making people look at his sick cars before laying them off.

DonkeyPunchJr · Wednesday at 10:54 PM

Punish them, Sony!

Zacfoldor · Wednesday at 10:55 PM

Gaiff said:
Yeah, not buying that Sony would want revenge on Bungie for screwing up. Way too petty.

Maybe some people inside Sony played Destiny 2.

DenchDeckard · Wednesday at 10:56 PM

Someone at Sony picked up the controller on an old demo of last of us factions 2 they had in the back, and was like.

"This is sick!"

"Who told you to cancel this?"

....

ChorizoPicozo · Wednesday at 10:56 PM

kpopSuperstar · Wednesday at 10:56 PM

kevboard · Wednesday at 10:56 PM

Revenge, it's a kiss, this time I won't miss,
Now I've got you in my sights!
With a Goldeneye!

SJRB · Wednesday at 10:56 PM

DonkeyPunchJr · Wednesday at 10:57 PM

DenchDeckard said:
Someone at Sony picked up the controller on an old demo of last of us factions 2 they had in the back, and was like.

"This is sick!"

"Who told you to cancel this?"

....

Probably Bungie told them to cancel it because they wanted to eliminate any potential competition for Marathon

cormack12 · Wednesday at 10:58 PM

Hypereides · Wednesday at 10:59 PM

Banjo64 said:
What sort of imbecilic company 'seeks revenge' against their own subsidiary who they have 100% control over? Makes no sense. Sony should be pissed at themselves for their own mismanagement and that's it.

David Jaffe allegded through his source(s) at some point that Hulst's behaviour is kinda petty in a way.

Cumulus · Wednesday at 10:59 PM

Victhemic · Wednesday at 11:00 PM

Dr. Samuel Hayden said:
Sony leadership has a "desire for revenge" against Bungie over live service problems as PlayStation staff push back against the decision to end Destiny 2 support - Report

Sony leadership reportedly has major frustration with Bungie over live service issues, while some PlayStation staff are said to be pushing back against the end of Destiny 2 support.

thegamepost.com

Can't blame them. Sony was so stupid to listen to them to cancel TLOU Online. Unforgivable sin.

(If its true)

ChorizoPicozo · Wednesday at 11:00 PM

Gaiff said:
Yeah, not buying that Sony would want revenge on Bungie for screwing up. Way too petty.

Sony must be furious at Bungie. Not only did they make them lose money, the humiliation has been biblical.

Banjo64 · Wednesday at 11:00 PM

Hypereides said:
David Jaffe allegded through his source(s) at some point that Hulst's behaviour is kinda petty in that way.

Jaffe is an unreliable narrator

Northeastmonk · Wednesday at 11:01 PM

Sony's leadership has been pro-GaaS this entire generation, they're all part of the problem.

Denorion · Wednesday at 11:01 PM

You gotta admit, Sony sorta has a right to be angry

They buy bungie for 4 billion, for their "live service expertise" and fucking Concord comes out

That said, it's obvious that the destiny has a passionate fanbase, it would be for the best to have those 400 employees on the pre production of D3

pqueue · Wednesday at 11:01 PM

Guardian Monkey · Wednesday at 11:01 PM

DenchDeckard said:
Someone at Sony picked up the controller on an old demo of last of us factions 2 they had in the back, and was like.

"This is sick!"

"Who told you to cancel this?"

....

DonkeyPunchJr said:
Probably Bungie told them to cancel it because they wanted to eliminate any potential competition for Marathon

Victhemic said:
Can't blame them. Sony was so stupid to listen to them to cancel TLOU Online. Unforgivable sin.

Has this ever been corroborated anywhere other than a rumor?

Gaiff · Wednesday at 11:02 PM

ChorizoPicozo said:
Sony must be furious at Bungie. Not only did they make them lose money, the humiliation has been biblical.

Sure, but wanting "revenge" on your own company would just end up hurting yourself.

digoutyoursoul · Wednesday at 11:02 PM

Hypereides · Wednesday at 11:02 PM

Banjo64 said:
Jaffe is an unreliable narrator

Hey, its just Jaffe passing on what he got told. The man used to work for Sony. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still got connections.

Victhemic · Wednesday at 11:04 PM

Guardian Monkey said:
Has this ever been corroborated anywhere other than a rumor?

Don't know. It was heavily rumoured at least.

Kilau · Wednesday at 11:04 PM

Wel that's fucking stupid, nobody forced Sony into the purchase and lots of people knew it was a bad deal.

ChorizoPicozo · Wednesday at 11:04 PM

Gaiff said:
Sure, but wanting "revenge" on your own company would just end up hurting yourself.

Could accountability be framed as revenge?

Topher · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

Take that, Bungie. And that, and that....

Elbereth · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

adamsapple

Reizo Ryuu · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

Men_in_Boxes · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

Social media is for re*ards.

Durin · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

I'm not really sure what to believe, but at this point I don't care.

It's been so many years since Bungie made anything I give a crap about, and their GAAS monetization isn't great...so fuck'em at this point.

Sony really should've invested in more diverse kinds of games, than putting so much in GAAS products.

I Love Rock 'n' Roll · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

In real life, Sony's leadership is the one and only reason for this mess. Is it okay to seek revenge against PlayStation executives? I think so by their claims!

I

DeepEnigma · Wednesday at 11:05 PM

Tabloid level vitriol.

Fortuneelsewhere · Wednesday at 11:06 PM

Sony seeking revenge… I stopped right there..

LectureMaster · Wednesday at 11:07 PM

Lmao but what kind of revenge? Is it a revenge like Kratos to Zeus in GoW 3 or is it a revenge like Ellie to Abby in TLOU2?

Three · Wednesday at 11:08 PM

Gaiff said:
Yeah, not buying that Sony would want revenge on Bungie for screwing up. Way too petty.

I think it reads like the opposite. Revenge by Bungie by discontinuing D2.

Rocco Schiavone · Wednesday at 11:08 PM

The desire for revenge is absolutely ridiculous.

You buy a studio that isn't worth the money, have a workforce of around 600 people develop a dud like *Marathon*, and now you want revenge—for what, exactly?

Because you released a game with so little content that not a single soul wants to play it?

How can you let a studio spend so many years in development only to end up with a result like that?

Do they just let Hermen Hulst get away with any old crap simply because he used to work at the studio that created a best-selling IP called *Horizon*?

Any rational person knows: give players the games they actually want, not some trash you think you can foist on them.

Cert.in.Death · Wednesday at 11:09 PM

The premise of exacting revenge for defrauding you is a strong narrative launching point for a GaaS.

squallbr · Wednesday at 11:09 PM

ChorizoPicozo said:
Sony must be furious at Bungie. Not only did they make them lose money, the humiliation has been biblical.

Sony is NOT Microsoft, Sony cant lose money , they already Sold TV for TCL

Flabagast · Wednesday at 11:10 PM

I believe it and they are right to be angry. The GaaS strategy has been a total mess from top to bottom and led to serious issues within the organization

SomeNorseGuy · Wednesday at 11:10 PM

Topher · Wednesday at 11:10 PM

LectureMaster said:
Lmao but what kind of revenge? Is it a revenge like Kratos to Zeus in GoW 3 or is it a revenge like Ellie to Abby in TLOU2?

This kind

DeepEnigma · Wednesday at 11:12 PM

Topher said:
This kind

Just opt-out if they mention it's in Brazil.

Saber · Wednesday at 11:12 PM

Sony is looking for clowns to put the blame for their own GaaS seeking failures, while Bungie has consistency being failing and giving losses to Sony. Of course would make sense attrition between two losers, both are pointing fingers at each other.

mckmas8808 · Wednesday at 11:12 PM

Zacfoldor said:
I believe it.

Bungie took Sony for a ride and it has been a PR nightmare ever since.

Sounds about right to me too. I mean.....$3.5 Billion purchase. And then they write down $750 Million of it in the last year. That's crazy!!!

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