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10 Cloverfield Lane |SPOILER THREAD -OT-Hybrid| It’s still not Voltron

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I love this movies ending so much.

I loved it for the same reason I loved from Dusk till Dawn, that complete tonal and genre shift is great.
 
Followed Dan from the TRS days, and was a bit skeptical at first, but as the film went along I have to say that Danny did well!

This was sort of a reimagining of Alien with its claustrophobia and the lead's resourcefulness. He did a great job of pacing himself and maintaining tension for a film that only has 6 locations and (essentially) 3 actors.

I can see the complaints about shoehorning in the Cloverfield stuff, but honestly, if it weren't attached I'm not sure it would market as well so I could see why they'd tie it in there. Plus, it allows the audience to go in with mixed expectations on what the film actually is, and if that's what it takes to draw in audiences to watch what is essentially a domestic drama like this, then that's fine by me.

Personally, I just take the film as grounding the light sci fi genre a little more.


Overall a pretty great time at the movies.
 
omnislayer said:
I love this movies ending so much.

I loved it for the same reason I loved from Dusk till Dawn, that complete tonal and genre shift is great.
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This might have worked for me had the film not had Cloverfield in the title. I never expected anything other than aliens for the end.

As for how they could directly tie the first film, this, and anymore in the series together, well that's not too hard. They could set up the alien invasion as being parallel universes; a hole was ripped in the fabric of time and space and so forth. Or they could just brush off technological and era differences as that character's perspective. Sort of like how Romero's Dead films are the outbreak at different stages: Night is the 1st day, Dawn is 3 weeks later, Day is 6 months, and Land is years.
 
VistraNorrez said:
This might have worked for me had the film not had Cloverfield in the title. I never expected anything other than aliens for the end.

As for how they could directly tie the first film, this, and anymore in the series together, well that's not too hard. They could set up the alien invasion as being parallel universes; a hole was ripped in the fabric of time and space and so forth. Or they could just brush off technological and era differences as that character's perspective. Sort of like how Romero's Dead films are the outbreak at different stages: Night is the 1st day, Dawn is 3 weeks later, Day is 6 months, and Land is years.
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It seems like the least JJ Abrams thing to do, when his thing is the "mystery box", to release a film whose sole purpose is to explain the others.

Sometimes not knowing is the best part - we don't need hokey space-time rifts to string together the films in some meta way.
 
The sense of despair I felt when Emmett was offed was all too real. The only other sane person is gone and you have to possibly spend years with this psycho. Jesus.
 
Arkeband said:
It seems like the least JJ Abrams thing to do, when his thing is the "mystery box", to release a film whose sole purpose is to explain the others.

Sometimes not knowing is the best part - we don't need hokey space-time rifts to string together the films in some meta way.
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Well the sole purpose of the film doesn't have to be on space-time rifts. If they happen to make a film about resistance fighters, of which previous characters are included, they could setup a premise that way. They figure out the invasion is across space-time and the only way to defeat it is that way, and so they recruit the best (the characters from each film) from across the different dimensions. Now that could be terrible, but it's just my speculation.

Or like I also proposed, they could just be looking at different elements and progressions of the same alien invasion but ignoring any serious continuity in favor of telling a modern story.
 
Goodman was terrifying, like im still unsettled just thinking about it, how he was essential trying to make michelle his daughter. Thr last fifteen minutes were fucking awesome! I loved that he ship was a living being! Also its entirely possible that the monster from the first was stage one of this invasion, when he was awakend from his slumber he sent out some sort of distress signal to his home planet where he lresumably came from and was trapped here billions of years ago. The mouth on the ship and the mouth on clover looked very similar. Now as for a third, I either want want to see MEW as a bad ass ripley esque character fighting off the aliens and other cloverfield monsters with the resistence, or another movie that takes place during this hypothetical invasion but has nothing to do with the first two much like this movie.
 
giancarlo123x said:
This movie deserves praise on its sound. I loved how it sounded when he shot the pistol in the small room and had my ears ringing like I was there. Also I swear throughout the movie I could hear subtle bass in the background during some silent parts like the aliens were doing shit on the surface.
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And the intro. Jesus Christ.
 
Arkeband said:
It seems like the least JJ Abrams thing to do, when his thing is the "mystery box", to release a film whose sole purpose is to explain the others.

Sometimes not knowing is the best part - we don't need hokey space-time rifts to string together the films in some meta way.
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Yeah combining these doesn't excite me. It works as an Outer Limits thing for me.
 
Went and saw it on Saturday.

What a great little movie. I had 0 expectations going in, and I was pleasantly surprised. The ending really was great. And the tension in the bunker during the movie is pretty incredible too.

John Goodman is a legend
 
giancarlo123x said:
This movie deserves praise on its sound. I loved how it sounded when he shot the pistol in the small room and had my ears ringing like I was there. Also I swear throughout the movie I could hear subtle bass in the background during some silent parts like the aliens were doing shit on the surface.
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See, this is what pissed me off about my showing - I saw it in pseudo-IMAX and while I thought the film was fine and the sound design was likewise really well-done, I guess they have a mixer for the IMAX speakers because the sound was totally messed up. It's like they turned the treble too high up, the bass too low and the mids were more or less nonexistent. It even affected the trailers! If it were still at a decent volume it'd be one thing, but the highs were basically twice the already-loud volume of IMAX speakers, meaning just about everything that happened in the movie was deafening and totally took me out of it. I can still appreciate the film, of course, but the sheer volume of their fucked setup was unbearable - it's really weird, too, because I saw Pacific Rim in the exact same room and it didn't have that same problem.
 
giancarlo123x said:
This movie deserves praise on its sound. I loved how it sounded when he shot the pistol in the small room and had my ears ringing like I was there. Also I swear throughout the movie I could hear subtle bass in the background during some silent parts like the aliens were doing shit on the surface.
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this was the loudest movie I've ever seen.. jesus christ

it was like free d-box with the way the chairs were vibrating in certain scenes
 
Gurrry said:
Went and saw it on Saturday.

What a great little movie. I had 0 expectations going in, and I was pleasantly surprised. The ending really was great. And the tension in the bunker during the movie is pretty incredible too.

John Goodman is a legend
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When he couldn't call Michelle a woman and when he came out clean shaven with the ice cream. The creepy meter went off the charts. He should get an Oscar for this role.
 
Can't stop thinking about this movie, seen it 3 times now. John Goodman's performance is so damn incredible, it gets better every time.

MEW and JGJ were really great too but Goodman... Wow.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Devin F was right. They're erasing him from the record books like Matt Reeves and Cloverfield. Average joe SWEARS JJ Abrams directed Cloverfield, b.

Just like how everybody thinks Tim Burton directed The Nightmare Before Christmas.
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He's kinda right? He's also got like 600 words beyond what he needs to make whatever his point is there. He's also wrong about how "late in the game" the Cloverfield aspects were added on (not late in the game at all, actually).

But yeah, he's absolutely right that anything Abrams gets within a 5 mile radius of, immediately becomes Abrams'

That used to happen to Lucas, too.
 
dLMN8R said:
Pretty sure Matt Reeves has done OK for himself. And I'm sure Trachtenberg will too.
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That their careers are still doing okay isn't really the point though. It's more about how silly/superficial entertainment writers are being.

Which, granted: They're entertainment writers. But its still worth noting how little Dan Trachtenberg is being given any credit for making this movie. That's a really strong debut he just directed. And most people think JJ Abrams did it. Because entertainment writers aren't pulling their weight.
 
MetroidPrimeRib said:
I didn't really think it was forced at all, it felt like a natural thing. Is it really such a jump from "Something is up" to "Something is definitely up, and its bad" to "Aliens did it"
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It was just horribly executed imo.

Small slow stupid alien, big spaceships, hero taking out spaceship in the most cliche way ever, and cock tease cliffhanger.

I feel like they couldn't think of anything creative so they crammed everything you've seen in a alien movie in 10min.
 
Killing_Joke said:
It was just horribly executed imo.

Small slow stupid alien, big spaceships, hero taking out spaceship in the most cliche way ever, and cock tease cliffhanger.

I feel like they couldn't think of anything creative so they crammed everything you've seen in a alien movie in 10min.
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The first glimpse of the ship showed that those crafts and their dog-gorilla-worm pets had no traditional sense of sight or presumably smell, they seemed to sense primarily sound waves. It only turned around to check out the area once the explosion occurred.

They operated in a sensible way, although I think everyone agrees the Molotov was cheesy, mostly because it's incredibly unoriginal.

I have to ask, did you even watch Cloverfield 1? How can you be upset with a "cocktease cliffhanger" considering how that one ended? Did you expect an apocalypse scenario to suddenly be wrapped up nicely?
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Just like how everybody thinks Tim Burton directed The Nightmare Before Christmas.
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To be fair, the title of the movie is "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas" lol.

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I sort of wish the ending was more subdued. The population has been decimated and you have Michelle catching glimpses of the creatures leading up-to a full on reveal, instead of the Die Hard V like action sequence. Fully ending on the call to battle from survivors.
 
Zodzilla said:
Followed Dan from the TRS days, and was a bit skeptical at first, but as the film went along I have to say that Danny did well!

This was sort of a reimagining of Alien with its claustrophobia and the lead's resourcefulness. He did a great job of pacing himself and maintaining tension for a film that only has 6 locations and (essentially) 3 actors.

I can see the complaints about shoehorning in the Cloverfield stuff, but honestly, if it weren't attached I'm not sure it would market as well so I could see why they'd tie it in there. Plus, it allows the audience to go in with mixed expectations on what the film actually is, and if that's what it takes to draw in audiences to watch what is essentially a domestic drama like this, then that's fine by me.

Personally, I just take the film as grounding the light sci fi genre a little more.

Overall a pretty great time at the movies.
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Yeah, I got this vibe too. By the end I was convinced this girl was the next Ripley :lol:
 
I really enjoyed this movie minus the ending.......took a turn into an area that was a little absurd. Left room open for a totally different sequel?
 
FroJay said:
I really enjoyed this movie minus the ending.......took a turn into an area that was a little absurd. Left room open for a totally different sequel?
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I enjoyed this and likely wouldn't have seen or heard of the movie without the cloverfield tie in. The tension of her escape and taking off the gas mask is done before the cloverfield stuff shows up anyways. It's just extra stuff on the end.

I'm fine with cloverfield being some anthology series of completely different films and loose stories every few years.
 
Saw it last night in IMAX. Most stressful movie of my life.

A lot of movies (like The Witch) slowly build towards increasingly suspenseful moments. This movie felt like it maxed out the stressfulness, then gave you 5 minutes to calm down and think everything's okay, then maxed out the intensity again, then gave you a breather, etc. It was interesting, and I enjoyed it a lot.

The moments of humor did a lot to keep me from going insane, and I think they actually did a good job of disarming me so that my heart would be pounding again at the next dramatic spike. The self-awareness of the final few scenes felt cathartic.

Also, her hitting the mailbox at the end destroyed my soul. The timing with that scene transition was just cruel.
 
part of me thinks the movie would have been better if we thought Goodman was full of shit the whole time but scenes like the one with the woman trying to get in kinda debunk that early on

the final shot would just be the alien reveal.. No silly battle where she takes out a giant with a tiny molotov cocktail

chop about 15 minutes off the the running time

idk

movie had me thinking of lost and its hatch with the retro music and food stock.. Desmond thinking the outside air was contaminated
 
brianjones said:
part of me thinks the movie would have been better if we thought Goodman was full of shit the whole time but scenes like the one with the woman trying to get in kinda debunk that early on
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The first half of the movie (up until the earring) did a great job of making me swing back and forth between Goodman being a villain and a flawed anti-hero. I thought his acting was great, especially in the part where he confesses to running her off the road.
 
Saw this last night with no idea what I was getting into. Really enjoyed it, Goodman was amazing. The endings cheesiness was a bit much. Changes the world outside being a horror show and more like something that Rambo could sort out in a couple hours. I really expected the molotov idea to backfire.

The movie prior to that point was pretty great though.
 
Arkeband said:
The first glimpse of the ship showed that those crafts and their dog-gorilla-worm pets had no traditional sense of sight or presumably smell, they seemed to sense primarily sound waves. It only turned around to check out the area once the explosion occurred.

They operated in a sensible way, although I think everyone agrees the Molotov was cheesy, mostly because it's incredibly unoriginal.

I have to ask, did you even watch Cloverfield 1? How can you be upset with a "cocktease cliffhanger" considering how that one ended? Did you expect an apocalypse scenario to suddenly be wrapped up nicely?
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All i thought was how they mostly likely killed thousands or millions with ease but of course the hero is unscratched. Looking back now i guess it makes sense to a degree but still stupid imo.

I forgot Cloverfield even had a cliffhanger. But it was a found footage film. I always looked at it as a one off movie even if they were alive. Because who cares if they are? The monster is dead. Just didn't care for the cliffhanger at all. Cheapened the movie. But to my defense i didn't read all this JJ monster universe in the making shit until after i saw it. So it came off as "uh, what? Super alien war sequel? Didn't see that coming."
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Wait, what did she do on the outside that was so much more unbelievable than all the shit she did when she was inside?
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The molotov was comical. Especially with the multiple cuts to the ship crashing and exploding. The movie did nothing to style itself as some kind of bombastic action spectacle but there you get some with 5 minutes left in the movie. The bunker exploding has a culminating punch to it. You saw the fire start with the acid (a huge vat btw), it spreading, melted John Goodman, a narrow escape; it all makes sense. Then you see a 1/5th of whiskey knock a Titanic sized ship out of the sky.
 
toastyToast said:
The molotov was comical. Especially with the multiple cuts to the ship crashing and exploding.
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How is her throwing a bottle through a hole any more outlandish/unbelievable than all the shit she did in the bunker?

The movie sets up that she pays attention to shit. The movie sets up the gas that fumigates the humans is flammable. She noticed that and then threw a lit bottle of alcohol into the source of the gas.

I like that better than just "oh, she sees a burnt up city. Roll credits."

The bunker exploding had no "culminating punch" for me. I don't know why it would. At that point the entire question is "what the fuck did that to that woman's face if the air isn't toxic?" The bunker going up is a jumpscare to distract you from the next aspect of the film settling in.

Said question is then answered rather shortly afterwards.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
How is her throwing a bottle through a hole any more outlandish/unbelievable than all the shit she did in the bunker?

The movie sets up that she pays attention to shit. The movie sets up the gas that fumigates the humans is flammable. She noticed that and then threw a lit bottle of alcohol into the source of the gas.

I like that better than just "oh, she sees a burnt up city. Roll credits."

The bunker exploding had no "culminating punch" for me. I don't know why it would. At that point the entire question is "what the fuck did that to that woman's face if the air isn't toxic?" The bunker going up is a jumpscare to distract you from the next aspect of the film settling in.

Said question is then answered rather shortly afterwards.
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I didn't mean the idea itself was outlandish rather that the effectiveness was. That's why I said Rambo could probably sort this out in a couple hours. If you can just throw grenades/shoot these things in the weak spot kind of kills the mystique a little bit. It also overshadows the bunker going up which was, I don't know the word, meaningful?

Yeah I know people are holding them off from the ending. The threat was diminished by that moment I feel. The worm thing was scarier.
 
I like how the alien invasion mimics what John Goodmans explanation if how it goes down. The giant monster from the first movie is the "nuke" deployed in high density populated areas. And the sweeping helicopter type things are cleanup crew.
 
Now that I think about it I feel like the point of her killing that alien so easily is that it's showing that it's not a hopeless fight. If she hasn't killed that one I doubt she'd be feeling confident enough to go off and fight more and would have just ended up going to where they'd already fought them off. And that doesn't really fit with her character development.
 
toastyToast said:
I didn't mean the idea itself was outlandish rather that the effectiveness was. That's why I said Rambo could probably sort this out in a couple hours. If you can just throw grenades/shoot these things in the weak spot kind of kills the mystique a little bit. It also overshadows the bunker going up which was, I don't know the word, meaningful?

Yeah I know people are holding them off from the ending. The threat was diminished by that moment I feel. The worm thing was scarier.
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I feel like that is the point. The shit outside, the alien invasion stuff, is not really all that important. As someone else mentioned earlier in this thread (and as Howard speculated), it could be Russians, zombies, plants coming alive, whatever. The absurdity of the situation outside highlights the contrast in her interior journey. Dealing with world-exterminating aliens was child's play compared to what she had to endure inside. I think that's very powerful and personal.

A bit of brainless cathartic action right at the end was also very, very welcome.

This is of course, my interpretation of things, and I seem to be repeating myself in this thread. I loved the movie more because of the ending, not less. But I seem to be in the minority here.

Redlettermedia review is up btw. (They also hated the ending and wanted it to cut to black right after she walked out.)
 
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