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[Muffdraul]

It was Rod Fergusson that cut all the features no? They brought him in to get the product released and he drastically cut a lot of features. To the point where some of it didn't make sense.

Example - "The Boy of Silence" enemy with the hearing horns on their helmets. Originally you had to be stealthy or they would hear you and call reinforcements. They were blind.
On release you can be as noisy as you want as long as you do not get in their field of vision. Lol! What? He can't see shit!
They changed the entire encounter design of the enemy! Now it is just a walking security cam from Bioshock 1 & 2.

Not sure that's possible, Ferg joined Irrational in Aug 2012 and the game released in Feb 2013. That's not enough time to do any serious re-designs on the level I'm talking about. It was Nate Wells and one of the gameplay leads, I forget his name, he has a funky ear... they were the two I recall after Infinite went public on how Levine would slave drive them to do these big ticket items and make them work their asses off on them for like a year and then so casually say, "Eh, I don't like that idea anymore, get rid of it."

 

[Kings Field]

the first one was amazing, second one good, and infinite was horrible.

 

[Bkdk]

let shift up remake bioshock infinite, perhaps I'll be excited to the franchise again, I'm sure they will up elizabeth's ass-ets.

 

[ByWatterson]

It does? It's a pretty pointed critique of American exceptionalism and all that goes with it. I don't think it conflates them with socialism in any way.

Did you play it? Honest question. Daisy Fitzroy and her movement are portrayed as fanatical terrorists and just as bad as Comstock in the

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alternate timeline.

 

[Krathoon]

We had Prey 2017 (also referred to as Psycho Shock), and a System Shock Remake. Also a couple of other ImSims that quench the thirst.

And don't forget, next year Levine's next game comes out, which pretty much still looks like Bioshock, but more systems-driven?

Yeah. That is the spiritual successor to Bioshock. It looks really good. It has that silly Levine style.

 

[TagZ]

Holy moly, the shit I've read in this thread. "Bioshock is overrated", "Bioshock Infinite was better than the first"... my salami. I want to be excited for Clockwork Revolution, but with the recent Microsoft stuff, I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Did you play it? Honest question. Daisy Fitzroy and her movement are portrayed as fanatical terrorists and just as bad as Comstock in the

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alternate timeline.

I did, but it's been a while. My memory is that the Vox Populi were just sort of anarchists, that they had no ideology or desire to govern. I could see why that might ruffle the feathers of certain people but I would hardly take it as Levine's attempt to critique socialism.

 

[IAmRei]

To be honest i only like the third, and because the artsyle is quite differs with lot of games at that time. I welcome the idea, if there is any BS sequel in the future, well i can only hope

 

[Dazraell]

I want to be excited for Clockwork Revolution, but with the recent Microsoft stuff, I'm keeping my expectations as low as possible.

I would keep them low either way regardless if it's Microsoft or not. The studio behind this game (inXile Entertainment) never done AAA game of this scope before. Their games while being decent always had lot of flaws and never managed to reach a wider audience. So while Clockwork Revolution may be a solid game, it's probably best to next expect BioShock successor from them as you may be disappointed

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

Bioshock 1 and 2 were quite good, though you'll never recreate the lightning in the bottle that was the first one. Infinite was linear FPS with pretty much one-trick-pony story twist, but art was fantastic. DLCs sucked ass tho, I really think that tie-in with 1 and 2 was unescessary fan-service on par with bad fan-fiction.

Honestly, out of 7th to 8th gen Immersive Sims I will miss Arkane most. Dishonored/D2 (including DLCs) and Prey is a perfect trilogy full of stellar art and true gameplay freedom with very thick atmosphere. Now we have a world where Raphaël Colantonio is outside of Arkane with barely any budge. And tho I liked Weird West, it was cheap and underdeveloped as hell. We have Judas and after clustertruck of a dev cycle in Infinite I don't beleive Ken Levin one bit. I think that Judas is just another vanity project. Plus current Arkane is deep under MS. Redfall that kinda sucks and Lyon is now making Marvel TPS action instead of unique new worlds with first-person perspective.

It is a sad world to live in indeed. Sigh.