TheGreatDave
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I don't want to hear about LittleBigPlanet on 1Up Yours ever again, so I'm hoping momentum crawls to a hault ASAP.
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Deleted member 30609
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The game is great (contrary to what the beta had me believeing), but I agree. There really isn't much more that needs to be said at this point in time.TheGreatDave said:
First-time listener, a couple thoughts:
1. What was up with that dude who was so defensive over LBP? My god. (I am pretty sure i know who that is) I mean I respect if you disagree with what the guy is saying but you can at least the guy finish his sentences. Jeez.
2. The English dude ripping on Wii music was AWESOME :lol :lol :lol
3. There is some decent discussion. Aside from a couple quips anything regarding system-warz is generally ignored. Not exactly what GAF led me to believe.
1. What was up with that dude who was so defensive over LBP? My god. (I am pretty sure i know who that is) I mean I respect if you disagree with what the guy is saying but you can at least the guy finish his sentences. Jeez.
2. The English dude ripping on Wii music was AWESOME :lol :lol :lol
3. There is some decent discussion. Aside from a couple quips anything regarding system-warz is generally ignored. Not exactly what GAF led me to believe.
Shane's defense of LBP was fair I think, Garnett was wrong. I don't think anyone actually thought the game was going to garner a massive place in the community and cause us all to make these incredible levels. It's hugely time consuming, with little to no reward. But people seem to be as pumped for it now as they were a month or so ago.
It tailors to a small niche, but I think it does it very well, and it's going to continue to do so. Anyone who thought it was going to change the face of gaming was insane. But I do think it's currently the best title on PS3. The MM levels really are incredible, and if it wasn't for unresponsive controls (which I'm sure are intentional) it would be a serious contender to my all time favorite platformers.
It tailors to a small niche, but I think it does it very well, and it's going to continue to do so. Anyone who thought it was going to change the face of gaming was insane. But I do think it's currently the best title on PS3. The MM levels really are incredible, and if it wasn't for unresponsive controls (which I'm sure are intentional) it would be a serious contender to my all time favorite platformers.
GitarooMan
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What you're saying is basically only what Garnett was saying, basically that the "OMG Game of the Century, game-changer" hype has died down a bit. I think a lot of people did think it was going to "change the face of gaming" (whether that was insane or not, the sentiment was there, or maybe just the hope)stuburns said:
Anyway, starting off by charging 5 pounds for a t-shirt is going to help them.
Maybe I mistook Garnett's comment. He said talk of the game seemed to have decreased, I'm saying I think it's just changed. People are still hyped about the game, just in a very different way. People expected more of the tools, I think. For them to be much quicker and easier to use. I thought it'd be like it is, but with crap premade levels, but the MM levels are amazing. I've just finished them all now (it took longer to unlock all the bonus ones than to finish the main ones) and they are incredible. But without a way of easily finding the best user made levels, I know I'm not going to be playing it in a month.GitarooMan said:
And the £4 shirt is insane. I can't believe you don't get a real shirt or something.
Mr. Wonderful
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Metal Gear Solid 4 says hi.stuburns said:
GeoramA said:
So games journalism = shit confirmed?
What do you mean internet podcast? If it's a podcast on the internet then we are supposed to not take things seriously? Independently of who they feature?
I don't understand where you're trying to come from. But then again your "Lol @ Shane hate" says everything, because you really gotta be a certain type of person to defend that tool.
Defuser said:
Which ones, the "COD4 wannabe" or the "looks amazing" ones?
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Deleted member 30609
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Your life has to be pretty shitty to take the internet so seriously. Stop being such a cynic and lighten the fuck up.WrikaWrek said:
Rez>You said:
To take the "internet" so seriously? What are you even talking about?
And keep your fucked up speculation about my life to yourself. Because you gotta be some brain dead walking corpse, if you divide things by black and white "It's on the internet, so it doesn't matter, let me laugh, lol lol lol".
Seriously, get a fucking brain.
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I'm not going to continue th-WrikaWrek said:
Ah what the fuck:
WrikaWrek
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Love you too.WrikaWrek said:
SonOfABeep
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This isn't going to end well, but..
What if Little Big Planet wasn't a Sony title? What if it was on 360, or multiplatform? I think you'd see a lot more adoption of the game and a LOT more participation and community, since that's what Xbox Live is good at.
Just look at the Forza 2 car creations.. I know this is ANATHEMA to PS3 fanbois, but it always struck me as seriously odd to have such a community-centric game on a platform that has failed so miserably at creating an online community.
What if Little Big Planet wasn't a Sony title? What if it was on 360, or multiplatform? I think you'd see a lot more adoption of the game and a LOT more participation and community, since that's what Xbox Live is good at.
Just look at the Forza 2 car creations.. I know this is ANATHEMA to PS3 fanbois, but it always struck me as seriously odd to have such a community-centric game on a platform that has failed so miserably at creating an online community.
SonOfABeep said:
That's a good question. I would hazard a guess and say no, I don't think so. At least if it was released at the same point it was this year. That's too, too many big, big established games coming out at this time (adding in platform exclusives) so LBP would suffer a bit either way. It would just be much more noticeable since it was released on everything.
It would behoove Sony to relaunch LBP again in March or something to put attention back on the title. Not to mention bring those Dual Shock 3/LBP packages to the US.
voltron said:
Don't insult Y2Kev like that
Shane is funny and has his moments, but to throw my 2 cents in, it is beyond pathetic how he not only feels the need to pimp for Sony, but does so in such a predictable way.
I get so fucking sick and tired of him jizzing all over any PS3 exclusives that are not objectively horrible. This is the dude who finds Halo so boring he refuses to play it, yet hyperventilates when talking about Resistance / Killzone. This is the dude who used to practically masturbate to FF13 on podcasts before it went multi-platform, now has very little to say about it, but still keeps using the line about other 360 RPGs being the "B-team" of RPG titles.
And seriously, does anyone really think he would give two shits worth of time to Motorstorm if it wasn't PS3 exclusive? Give me a break. I love my PS3 as much as the next guy, but Shane continues to remind me of a self-conscious parent who won't stop over-compensating for their kid's weight problem.
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Have you started a new blog yet? Not too kiss too much ass, but I miss hearing your opinions on whatever the latest games are.FartOfWar said:
TF2 is completely cooperative multiplayer. You have to play with others to have even a decent chance. But I think Ellis was basing it on the semantics in R2. In both forms of MP in that game have cooperative elements, but only one is competitive. So they break it down to cooperative and competitive for ease.
The vast majority of multiplayer is cooperative.
The vast majority of multiplayer is cooperative.
SonOfABeep
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WoW hasn't killed PC gaming, but Piracy and WoW are doing their best to attempt to..
I look forward to saving up for a new gaming PC to play the real version of TF2, Stalker, and Crysis someday..
I look forward to saving up for a new gaming PC to play the real version of TF2, Stalker, and Crysis someday..
Oh man, I never really thought about it like that before, but I think you are mostly right.SonOfABeep said:
Though it would mean 10x the amount of penis levels.
The problem with LBP and xbox live, is actually MS. As a company MS has demonstrated a very closed approach to DLC and what you can give away. They seem to have established the 3-4 levels = 10 dollars pricing scheme, and I'd guess something like LBP would threaten their business model.
I think all gamers should hope that LBP sells incredibly well because of the message it would send to developers and publishers alike, specifically those on the 360 and at MS. Huge sales for LBP could indicate there is great money to be made with the mod community. Imagine if the DLC was tools and parts that could expand your user created levels, instead of just defaulting to levels for purchase. Then any level made with those specific parts, would require that parts or texture pack. There are still ways to make that DLC $ back, but you've still allowed for unlimited replayability, with the user creations.
Yeah I don't agree WoW killed PC gaming. A lot of WoW's gamers aren't even the PC core. They sucked in a lot of people into the PC community. The people playing good ol' CS and all of them RTS.
The real killer is Microsoft and their lack of initiative for Games for Windows. Pushing Xbox so hard that they would even take away their PC games for the same of the Xbox is really killing PC gaming. Closing down key studios that made their PC gaming sector so popular.
Blizzard and Steam are the major players keeping PC alive.
The real killer is Microsoft and their lack of initiative for Games for Windows. Pushing Xbox so hard that they would even take away their PC games for the same of the Xbox is really killing PC gaming. Closing down key studios that made their PC gaming sector so popular.
Blizzard and Steam are the major players keeping PC alive.
Rapping Granny
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They should put Matt Leon on next week's podcast and let him talk about the Killzone 2 beta. 
GitarooMan
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Eh, to be fair he did pimp Burnout Paradise quite a bit (although he also likes to use it as a crutch in the multiplatform superiority debates). But if was 360 exclusive, forget it.lawblob said:
EDIT: It was funny when Shane was orgasming over Motorstorm 2 being the racing game of the year how quickly he forgot about Burnout though.
GitarooMan said:
Thats true, I guess he is a big racing fan. But in general, though, the level of phony exaggeration that he feels he needs to slap onto any PS3 exclusive is totally overbearing.
Maybe Resistance 2 is a better example of this. If Resistance 2 was a 360 title, he wouldn't even play it.
MaritalWheat
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Excellent show, the best game impressions 1UP Your's has had for a while--this was fucking real talk. Also, yay for David as permanent chair, he in particular has been on a roll in terms of games talk. I don't look forward to obligatory misinformed PC talk that judging from comments makes its return this week at the end of the show though (I'm just finishing up the Gears talk). 
OldJadedGamer
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lawblob said:
Don't forget the heap of praise he put on UT3 when it was a timed PS3 exclusive even though he hates shooters.
It's easy to think Shane loves Motorstorm because it's on PS3, but the truth is, we don't know. I haven't played Pure, but maybe it isn't as good.
For me, Grid would be the arcade racer of the year (I know it was presented like a sim, but it's not), it happens to be multiplatform, but if MS2 had been, it wouldn't make me any more of a fanboy.
For me, Grid would be the arcade racer of the year (I know it was presented like a sim, but it's not), it happens to be multiplatform, but if MS2 had been, it wouldn't make me any more of a fanboy.
I don't understand the PC gaming hate toward the end. Why do they feel the need to alienate their audience like that. Last time I checked 1up covers pc gaming, and covers it fairly well. What's all this noise about no one wanting the coverage and that WoW killed pc gaming in 2005. Sure the platform might be more niche than the mainstream consoles to have a rig capable of playing the great games the platform has but isn't that why sites like 1up exist? To please those niches? How the hell can you write off sims 3??? Fuck, I'm ranting. Guess I'll stop now heh.
Disregarding the ignorant and unnecessary pc game bashing, the podcast was great.
Disregarding the ignorant and unnecessary pc game bashing, the podcast was great.
bistromathics
facing a bright new dawn
I'm not hating on anybody here, but listening to the Resistance 2 talk in this week's episode really makes me appreciate the kind of discussion that went on in the GFW radio critiques. Garnett and David Ellis (I think it was him) made their points that the game had problems, but they did a very poor job of articulating what those problems were.
Simply saying the levels are bland or the encounters are unbalanced or the layouts are bad does not convey anything to me except that you don't like this game (or at least certain aspects of it). Maybe that's what most listeners want, I don't know...but I typically listen to gaming podcasts to hear the different perspectives that are out there. Starting neutral on most things, I like weighing the arguments people make until I can decide whether I agree with them or not.
I still think 1up Yours is rad, but this week's ep was a little below average ;_;
Simply saying the levels are bland or the encounters are unbalanced or the layouts are bad does not convey anything to me except that you don't like this game (or at least certain aspects of it). Maybe that's what most listeners want, I don't know...but I typically listen to gaming podcasts to hear the different perspectives that are out there. Starting neutral on most things, I like weighing the arguments people make until I can decide whether I agree with them or not.
I still think 1up Yours is rad, but this week's ep was a little below average ;_;
bistromathics said:
David Ellis already covered why resistance 2 was poor in the last 1upyours + more coverage in the latest 1upFM. Add to that garnett's displeasure with the game's 1p experience, (and if I had to play any game - the single player matters to me the most), I've decided to give R2 a launch miss. Budget title purchase for me.
BenjaminBirdie
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Kintaro said:
I was having this discussion with a friend actually. This was really a poor time to release a game that, to reach it's highest potential, needs to have a core group of fans spending pretty much every free moment crafting amazing stuff. This time of the year, that's just such a tall order. Every week the focus shifts to something genuinely new and amazing. I agree, if this arrived in March, it would be much bigger.
GitarooMan said:
Shane is what he is and for the most part, I find him very entertaining and knowledgeable. But the Motorstorm 2 and LBP talk was almost embarrassing. C'mon Shane, don't try too hard to convince everyone that your opinions are gospel.
I still remember him saying that the original Motorstorm was going to be a "watershed" title on 1Up Yours ages ago. Talk about hyperbole. It was the first game I ever rented for my PS3 and I just couldn't get into it. I'm more of a Burnout kinda guy, admittedly. But watershed? Good grief.
I'm finally opening LBP today for a birthday party for my nephews/niece. I'm excited to see how they're going to react to it. I fall under the too damn lazy to create something on my own category, but perhaps they'll get into it (they're 10 years old).
Kabuki Waq
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holy shit how can Garnett rag on resistance 2 ...it comes out as really forced.
Level design was consistantly fun and fresh. lol @ his story comments. They make no sense.
Level design was consistantly fun and fresh. lol @ his story comments. They make no sense.
dasupremeone
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Especially since it is on steam. and guys, PC Gaming is alive, you are too dead to see it. Che Chou was a hardcore console gamer, gave PDZ a 10, and now....he LOVES Crysis and Crysis Warhead.DubloSeven said: