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1up Yours 3/9/07: GDC and more
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BenjaminBirdie
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MaX_PL said:
It's almost as if he covers video games for one of the most prominent publications on the planet.
Yeesh. N'gai rules, and it's ridiculous to slight him because he has access others don't.
yeh but my point is that he showed absolutely no excitement for what he talked about. he was just calling out random fact after fact as if this human video game encyclopedia.
i would have rather listened to shane talk about how great home is for the whole two hours because he would at least show enthusiasm in his argument.
and dude, ngai, yes i'm sure he's the man in the industry and knows just about everything, but im just saying he just took alot of life from the typical 1up yours ive grown to love.
i would have rather listened to shane talk about how great home is for the whole two hours because he would at least show enthusiasm in his argument.
and dude, ngai, yes i'm sure he's the man in the industry and knows just about everything, but im just saying he just took alot of life from the typical 1up yours ive grown to love.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
MaX_PL said:
He might have been soft spoken but it was clear how enthusiastic he was about games. This is silly.
Hold on, hold on - it may have been a pain to actually read (long-ass paragraphs are not message board-friendly, dude), but I get what ---- is talking about: the concept of a level-editor is nothing new, and its downfall has always been the lack of compelling, interesting levels created by the average user. I never thought of that before.
I do think, however, that the enthusiasm over LBP will push it to heights of popularity and success far greater than other level-editors. This is clearly a game that Sony wants to push hard as part of what defines their online service.
They don't just want the average PS3 user to make levels; they also want big-name developers like EA and Ubisoft to use LBP as a medium for promoting their games. It's not too farfetched to think that we're eventually going to see LBP levels that surpass the complexity and ingenuity of the level demoed at GDC.
I do think, however, that the enthusiasm over LBP will push it to heights of popularity and success far greater than other level-editors. This is clearly a game that Sony wants to push hard as part of what defines their online service.
They don't just want the average PS3 user to make levels; they also want big-name developers like EA and Ubisoft to use LBP as a medium for promoting their games. It's not too farfetched to think that we're eventually going to see LBP levels that surpass the complexity and ingenuity of the level demoed at GDC.
Mustaphadamus
Member
N'gai is a laid back person, he is mega brooklyn in his approach (I am from there too)MaX_PL said:
Mustaphadamus
Member
roflY2Kevbug11 said:
Mustaphadamus
Member
yeah outside the city new yorkers get a bum rap man, either we are to loud and pushy or we are to "stand offish" which really = laid backGoreomedy said:
Eitherway N'gai is that dude!
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
If N'Gai reads GAF so much why doesn't he post more often? :/
elektrotal
Member
n'gai sounded really articulate and professional, and approached the discussion with a levity that it far too often lacks. Yeah, it sounded more like a sunday morning political discussion than the standard teen radio station morning show, but i really appreciate that. It's good to have legit thoughtful discussion once in a while.
Mustaphadamus
Member
N'gai needs to come out with his own podcast with the more "mature" gamer in mind
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Gigglepoo said:
Why? Did we run him off a while back?
mckmas8808 said:
He has written many columns ripping the dialog in Gears of War. He feels that a game with such high production values should have offered a worthwhile story as well. Though there is "only" 45 minutes of storytelling for the whole game, it was not time well spent. GAF's response? "Stories are for lames!" "Gears is perfect!"
He believes that if people are content with mediocrity, that is all they will receive.
mckmas8808
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Gigglepoo said:
And we "GAFFERS" actually said so dumb crap like that? When? I thought many of us were sorta elitest. Wanna games to be better written and masterpieces.
mckmas8808 said:
There are two threads that deal with this, actually.
The initial thread, with GAF's reaction to the first dialogue scene released (starting with post 259):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121542&page=6
And the reaction to N'Gai's article:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122843
HocusPocus
Member
I thought N'Gai's discussion on Gears story was funny to be honest. Does he rip Nintendo for their lack of detailed storylines too? I haven't seen it yet. Also the smartest comment during the whole podcast was Luke's at the end where he tried to put a bit of a damper on the crowning of Sony by the rest. I think they've Dennis Greened Sony 3 times now this gen after press conferences / keynotes 
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.HocusPocus said:
His point is, they spent 45 minutes on a worthless story. Gears is a good poster boy for this because the story is so bad and the rest of the game is so good. The reason Hotel Dusk got so much love is because the vast majority of game stories are Gears quality. If we, as gamers, demand better stories, we won't settle for stuff like Hotel Dusk anymore.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
HocusPocus said:I thought N'Gai's discussion on Gears story was funny to be honest. Does he rip Nintendo for their lack of detailed storylines too? I haven't seen it yet. Also the smartest comment during the whole podcast was Luke's at the end where he tried to put a bit of a damper on the crowning of Sony by the rest. I think they've Dennis Greened Sony 3 times now this gen after press conferences / keynotes
What do you mean Dennis Greened? Was the 1Up guys the ones saying, "If you want to crown their asses, then crown 'em!"
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Why does a critique on the quality of Gears' story require a separate critique on Nintendo to justify it? A game can be judged on its own merits without one needing to expound on the same traits in the competition's product.HocusPocus said:
The important thing to ME is that N'Gai is a well-informed, articulate, connected enthusiast writing for a major publication. How often does that happen really? Video games only get their due attention when something like "Wii Strap Crisis!" or "EA ships porn instead of Madden!" stories leak.
I SALUTE YOU, N'GAI CROAL.
I SALUTE YOU, N'GAI CROAL.
Oblong Schlong
Member
I also thought he was a good guest, Luke didn't seem to mesh too well with him conversationally though.
N'Gai: 'That doesn't explain why it's not a game.'
Shane: *From sidelines* 'Yeah yeah, different things Luke!'
Luke: Oh **** you all, I can't be bothered defending my point. If you want an intelligent debate on Flow then the best I can offer you is the recommendation that you 1. Pause a video of me berating it. 2. Add your reasoned counter-point. 3. Resume the video to watch my digitised self ignore whatever you just said because it's a ****ing video.
Cop-out total
N'Gai: 'That doesn't explain why it's not a game.'
Shane: *From sidelines* 'Yeah yeah, different things Luke!'
Luke: Oh **** you all, I can't be bothered defending my point. If you want an intelligent debate on Flow then the best I can offer you is the recommendation that you 1. Pause a video of me berating it. 2. Add your reasoned counter-point. 3. Resume the video to watch my digitised self ignore whatever you just said because it's a ****ing video.
Cop-out total
mckmas8808
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Eel O'Brian
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Mustaphadamus
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*shakes head* brutalEel O'Brian said:
dirtmonkey37
flinging feces ---->
N'Gai is cool guy. I appreciate his inteligence.
Bring'em back on the show!
Bring'em back on the show!
mylilbuddy
Banned
N'Gai needs to drink a redbull before you ever bring him back on the 1up yours show....someone check his pulse and make sure he even has one.....He has good info, but is painful to listen to.....Seems like he has bashed Gears since day one....He is Shane's big gun when it comes to supporting sony. IOW, N'Gai is a sony fanboy.