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2.5 Million Kinects. Kinects everywhere. Actually Sold To Consumers.
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Big marketing + an actual innovative* and fun product = sales. Longevity is another question, but word of mouth has been amazing. My family came around on the weekend which has resulted in +2 sales to MS.
Oh no you ditn't!
*innovative as in combining technologies to create a type of experience not previously available on a consumer product
or....
in before eye toy comparisons begin.
Lebron said:
Oh no you ditn't!
*innovative as in combining technologies to create a type of experience not previously available on a consumer product
or....
in before eye toy comparisons begin.
Gary Whitta
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ITT: some games aren't "real".
durrrrrrrrrr
Member
all one had to do was actually play Dance Central. Kinect is the mofreakin' truth. Dancemasters was fun and Kinectimals stomps all over Eyepet. not surprised at the sales and good job MS.
That's what I was trying to convey in teh E3 threads - You can make all sorts of logical arguments about why Kinect isn't for you. But once you try it out, game over, you're sold.durrrrrrrrrr said:
And Microsoft just executed this launch really really well, so they deserve this. Hopefully, we get some strong software sales numbers as well.
Teknopathetic
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Gaming is doomed. Luckily waggle hasn't infested PCs, yet.
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Synth_floyd
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Rhindle said:
What if Kinect isn't for you because you don't want to like it?
MisterHero
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Congratulations to Xbox I suppose.
Certain factors changing (like the price/model of the 360 itself) only helped this happen.
Hopefully, like the Wii, some truly compelling software will use Kinect well.
Kinect was never going to bomb because there's already a huge install-base. Enough time has been made where most people interested in gaming have made their platform choices, enough fans of 360's core games, and fans of motion gaming want to try it on other platforms. I couldn't say if that it was a guaranteed success but it would sell well regardless.Arnie said:
Certain factors changing (like the price/model of the 360 itself) only helped this happen.
Hopefully, like the Wii, some truly compelling software will use Kinect well.
plagiarize
Banned
PC is getting on with kinect quite well too...Teknopathetic said:
Poimandres said:
Sony always talks about shipment figures when they release sales data. The fact that they mention this, all the time dating back to the PS1 era, is not telling in the slightest.
I don't understand how everyone is chiming in on the 'Kinect is a success, Move is a failure' bandwagon when all we know is that Kinect has sold to consumers 2.5 million units to date after a month (busiest time for shopping at this time of year) and Move has shipped 2.5 million after its first month, with no other data provided by Sony thereafter.
As far as I'm concerned, both devices are selling well, hardware wise. This was to be expected with a $500 million advertising campaign from Microsoft, but Move's sales are a bit surprising given the lack of advertising from Sony. Similarly, both devices are failing to sell on a software level.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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We all knew it was going to sell well initially. I don't think anyone at GAF denied it. But most of us feel that people will move on once they realize how limiting it is and the lack of good games will kill it. This is a mini-game/party game device, nothing more.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Well, I just ate some crow. Fucking MS.
plagiarize
Banned
i'm sure when it continues to sell well, you'll be as scarce as some of the people that laughed at the 5 million prediction and someone else will be saying 'well we all knew that it would sell well in the first year, but we just didn't think there'd be any good FPS games.'Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
for reference, check this thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412051
Gary Whitta
Member
Same here, I see that Kevin Butler Tiger Woods ad and the one with the viking helmets at the end ALL THE TIME. I haven't seen a single Kinect TV spot.cuyahoga said:
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Redbeard said:
Actually it wasn't until a couple years ago that they started reporting shipped figures, until then they reported manufactured units.
metareferential
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Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
Many said it was going to flatout bomb or perform poorly.
Then they changed to "it will do fine, nothing more". Then came the 500m campaign, so everyone changed again to "it will sell a lot, but it will fail to keep the pace up in the following months".
We'll see.
InaudibleWhispa
Member
And I can only imagine anyone calling Kinectimals shovelware is doing so from a position of complete ignorance. It's polished as hell, it looks gorgeous, has a surprising amount of content and is easily one of the best examples of the genre.Letters said:
Kinect Sports is a fantastic game.
Then again we're talking about a guy who believes that something isn't a "real game" unless it strictly has review scores averaging above 85%.
plagiarize
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i think it's going to be kinect's biggest game this winter.Letters said:
Kinect Sports is a fantastic game.
anyone think otherwise?
it will be in the top ten in software sales in November and December even though NPD now combines platforms.
i don't normally make predictions, but i'm pretty confident in that one.
Skiptastic
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spats said:
That's correlation, not causation.
metareferential
Member
plagiarize said:
I really hope so, because it is a great game, for a launch title.
Gary Whitta
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It's not even about scores it's about accessibility. Some gamers, God only knows why, get really bent out of shape at the idea of games that are easy for regular people, who haven't had to earn their 1337 gaming stripes like they have, to pick up and play. Sad.InaudibleWhispa said:
SirPenguin
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I still don't see it doubling in a month, even with Christmas. I don't feel the same drive among people like I did during the Wii's release, or even the 360's release. Around this point I usually have anecdotal evidence among my gaming and non-gaming friends that is enough to generally predict how a product will do. I don't personally know a single person that owns Kinect.
Redbeard said:
No Move software made the NPD top 20 and we know that because it launched in September, what you don't know is if any Kinect game will make it in the NPD top 20 because it only launched in November. That said I will put up $20 that either Dance Central or Kinect Sports will break into the NPD top 20 for November. Any takers?
plagiarize
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anecdotal evidence is crap.SirPenguin said:
i took a number of phone calls tonight from people asking if we had kinect in stock (we didn't). i turned away a couple of people too.
i know people that own it.
HOW CAN THESE TWO THINGS BE THE SAME REALITY!!!???
metareferential
Member
SirPenguin said:
Anecdotal evidence is irrelevant.
plagiarize
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kinect sports is the one. i wouldn't bet against that cause i think it's going to be top ten.Pride said:
the tarot cards point to Kinect Sports > Dance Central.
Sho_Nuff82
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Redbeard said:
Kinect Sports and Dance Central are still in the top 25 in the UK, 3 weeks out from launch. Kinect Sports is still in the Irish/Denmark/ top 20.
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/ire/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=210015
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/dk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=310002
Where are we getting this idea that the software is bombing? Assuming 1 million units sold across all of Europe (a very high estimate), you wouldn't expect the game with the highest attach rate to be at more than 500k spread across every PAL territory. If, by the end of December, MS has hit their 5 million sales goal and there are zero Kinect games charting in any country, you can probably make the case that it's failing to sell software (outside of the bundled Kinect Adventures).
SirPenguin
Member
Oh, hush. That is as tired of an argument as the original one you're trying to counter against.Gary Whitta said:
I love gaming and I'm glad to see more people able to pick it up. But take a look at PC gaming. It is far from dead, but there's no question that's been greatly affected by the general shift to a console market.
Likewise, core games won't stop being made just because people are focusing on casual games, but they will obviously be adversely affected. How could they not be?
Gary Whitta
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:lol :lol :lol perfectMrbob said:
It's sometimes ironic too, because many people see games like this as "casual games" and discard them, "because casuals know nothing about real games". Yet, there are games out there like Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, which sales are driven mostly by this same "casuals"; but noone talks about those being any less games and many refer to those as "hardcore games".Gary Whitta said:
Is like someone I was talking too about Kinectimals on a similar topic. Basically implying that because you can't shoot at your cubs in Kinectimals, is not a real game.
The problem with Sony's reported sales/shipments is that there's no accuracy as far as actual userbase and probably won't ever will. They keep talking about shipping Move controllers, but the moment one person buys 3 additional ones for those monthly reunions with friends or family, that means that those are +3 in those sales Sony is going to report. Or the people that bought a Move controller to play RE5 Gold. Or the ones that bought one for when they go to play at their friend's house. Or when buying an extra one for the games that offer the option to use 2 at the same time.Redbeard said:
They have no way of properly saying "We've sold 3 million Move controllers so 3 million people will probably buy Move exclusive games".
Unlike with Kinect, were 2.5 million in sales means 2.5 million prospective customers of any game.
plagiarize
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simply because the market for them isn't shrinking.SirPenguin said:
any other large markets that may or may not come into existance, there will still be as many dollars to be made in the console market.
core games vs casual games is not the same as console games vs pc games.
have the 360 and PS3 been adversely affected by the Wii and DS bringing in a whole new audience of people to gaming?