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DY_nasty said:
Triple L riding those hot new Heat nuts. By all means, keep thinking that the heat will steamroll teams forever. Because that happens all the time in everything ever right? The heat need to improve in a sudden way because they never improved through the season. At all. I've never seen a team remain static from start to finish but the heat are that anomaly. Not only that, but they've convinced everyone, especially their new fans, that it should just be accepted. "Just sign this guy" "trade our shitty rookie for that guy" How about get on the same page for more than a week, grow up, and play to potential instead of making excuses for your self proclaimed greatest? 90% of heat fans have never looked at a game objectively. Why? Because they were attracted to the pretty colors from the start. At least Lakers fans are obviously masochists and have some clear delusional expectations of a team - not just a never ending highlight reel.

So yeah. Go fan up in your Hood and keep pretending that Miami's shit doesn't stink. Boston won it all in their first year, why couldn't Miami? Because winning is hard and they need more than two of the top five to get it done in a period where the NBA is at one of its lowest points in the modern era.
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Dude are you serious with this fuckery? Lol, so its alright for you to laugh at me for being a heat fan but when I point out how you don't have much to laugh about, your feelings get hurt and you accuse me of being on some high horse. Suck it the fuck up private. And wtf at your second point. For a while during last season we weren't even considered legit contenders. Im sure that video has been posted several times of us bricking GWs and every body from the internet, to espn, to your casual b-ball fans were saying the same things. We couldn't win close games, we couldn't defend dwight or a legit pg, we couldn't beat elite teams. What actually happened? In 4 games Dwight averaged less than his average PPG and fg%. The close games? We beat BOS and CHI, two teams we were never supposed to beat, in 5 games a piece , while most of those were decided at the end in close games. No improvement in going from a laughing stock to two games away from winning the finals? You are quite a card.
 
iamshadowlark said:
Dude are you serious with this fuckery? Lol, so its alright for you to laugh at me for being a heat fan but when I point out how you don't have much to laugh about, your feelings get hurt and you accuse me of being on some high horse. Suck it the fuck up private.
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Lulz.

And wtf at your second point. For a while during last season we weren't even considered legit contenders. Im sure that video has been posted several times of us bricking GWs and every body from the internet, to espn, to your casual b-ball fans were saying the same things. We couldn't win close games, we couldn't defend dwight or a legit pg, we couldn't beat elite teams. What actually happened? In 4 games Dwight averaged less than his average PPG and fg%.
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That was his point?

The close games? We beat BOS and CHI, two teams we were never supposed to beat, in 5 games a piece , while most of those were decided at the end in close games. No improvement in going from a laughing stock to two games away from winning the finals? You are quite a card.
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Your team got hot at the right time, then they got cold at the wrong time.
 
Miami's inconsistency in the playoffs perfectly mimicked their inconsistency during the regular season.

Stretches of winning 11 out of 13 followed by stretches of losing 7 out of 10. And there were several stretches like that.

I can't think of any contender in recent memory that played like New Jersey for two weeks at a time and prime-Boston the next.

Maybe LA and Boston? But their up-and-downs were never that severe, and they always battled health issues that Miami never faced -- they also had the luxury of "turning it on" because they already knew how to win it all.
 
reilo said:
Miami's inconsistency in the playoffs perfectly mimicked their inconsistency during the regular season.

Stretches of winning 11 out of 13 followed by stretches of losing 7 out of 10. And there were several stretches like that.

I can't think of any contender in recent memory that played like New Jersey for two weeks at a time and prime-Boston the next.

Maybe LA and Boston? But their up-and-downs were never that severe, and they always battled health issues that Miami never faced -- they also had the luxury of "turning it on" because they already knew how to win it all.
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They also didn't have a LeBron. The collapse wasn't the Heat as a team. It was LeBron, highhandedly. He averaged 2 points per fourth quarter the entire finals. Had he had an average 4th during those games the Heat would've been up 3-1 in game 5 instead of tied 2-2. LeBron was the reason they lost.
 
ClovingSteam said:
They also didn't have a LeBron. The collapse wasn't the Heat as a team. It was LeBron, highhandedly. He averaged 2 points per fourth quarter the entire finals. Had he had an average 4th during those games the Heat would've been up 3-1 in game 5 instead of tied 2-2. LeBron was the reason they lost.
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Absolutely he completely vanished in the 4th against Dallas. He just doesn't rise to the challenge it scares him or something. Especially when things start going south and he starts to reason that maybe if he doesn't touch the ball that often he won't get all the blame.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
Absolutely he completely vanished in the 4th against Dallas. He just doesn't rise to the challenge it scares him or something. Especially when things start going south and he starts to reason that maybe if he doesn't touch the ball that often he won't get all the blame.
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Yep.
 
reilo said:
Lulz.


That was his point?


Your team got hot at the right time, then they got cold at the wrong time.
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How was that his point? We supposedly were static the whole year, as in no change. "At All"
Miami's inconsistency in the playoffs perfectly mimicked their inconsistency during the regular season.

Stretches of winning 11 out of 13 followed by stretches of losing 7 out of 10. And there were several stretches like that.

I can't think of any contender in recent memory that played like New Jersey for two weeks at a time and prime-Boston the next.

Maybe LA and Boston? But their up-and-downs were never that severe, and they always battled health issues that Miami never faced -- they also had the luxury of "turning it on" because they already knew how to win it all.
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Are you serious? The playoffs are almost nothing like the reg season. You don't just "get hot" and beat two teams that you legitimately struggled against the whole season.

Clovingsteam said:
They also didn't have a LeBron. The collapse wasn't the Heat as a team. It was LeBron, highhandedly. He averaged 2 points per fourth quarter the entire finals. Had he had an average 4th during those games the Heat would've been up 3-1 in game 5 instead of tied 2-2. LeBron was the reason they lost.
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Also this.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
Absolutely he completely vanished in the 4th against Dallas. He just doesn't rise to the challenge it scares him or something. Especially when things start going south and he starts to reason that maybe if he doesn't touch the ball that often he won't get all the blame.
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Lebron didn't show up the whole series. This 4th quarter shit is a myth or just something that gets repeated for the sake of making a lame ass joke. If lebron half-way showed up it'd be a different series. Still though we were two games away without Lebron.
 
iamshadowlark said:
How was that his point? We supposedly were static the whole year, as in no change. "At All"



Are you serious? The playoffs are almost nothing like the reg season. You don't just "get hot" and beat two teams that you legitimately struggled against the whole season.


Also this.
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And unfortunately for the Heat, LeBron is a dude. At least when it comes to when he's needed most.
 
iamshadowlark said:
Are you serious? The playoffs are almost nothing like the reg season. You don't just "get hot" and beat two teams that you legitimately struggled against the whole season.


Also this.
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"You don't just get hot.....Bron just went cold in the final!"

..........uuuhhhhh.
 
iamshadowlark said:
How was that his point? We supposedly were static the whole year, as in no change. "At All"
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No change in attitude, no change in gameplanning, no change in plays, no actual work put in. It was all "it will work itself out, they are too talented not to figure it out".

Are you serious? The playoffs are almost nothing like the reg season. You don't just "get hot" and beat two teams that you legitimately struggled against the whole season.
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Oh geez, the playoffs are all about getting hot at the right time. Dallas? They got hot at the right time. Spurs? They went cold. Chicago struggled all playoffs but their competition was so pathetic in the first two rounds that it didn't matter.
 
MorisUkunRasik said:
"You don't just get hot.....Bron just went cold in the final!"

..........uuuhhhhh.
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What? No one said lebron went cold. He didn't show up at all. There is a difference from "going cold" and 6-24ing it in game 7 and just emotionally and mentally checking out.
 
I do wonder if the Heat would have beat the Bulls if Rose was shooting like he did in the middle of the regular season and LeBron also shot like he does normally, but Wade had a horrible series so I guess it balances it out. Still think next year's series will be a lot closer.
 
giri said:
Afflalo, Sefelosha, Ron, Allen, Paul Pierce. Marion even maybe after the last finals. Iggoudala
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Afflalo cannot guard 3s. Pierce, no, although he's good. marion is one of the most overrated defensive players of the past 10 years, so definitely not. Sefalosha has an argument, but I wouldn't agree. I still think it's just Ron, Battier, and TA.

If there's a season, should the Jazz try and push for the playoffs or tank for draft picks and give their young guys more minutes?
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It's cute you think they can make a playoff push.
 
iamshadowlark said:
What? No one said lebron went cold. He didn't show up at all. There is a difference from "going cold" and 6-24ing it in game 7 and just emotionally and mentally checking out.
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Those two things aren't mutually exclusive...
 
iamshadowlark said:
What? No one said lebron went cold. He didn't show up at all. There is a difference from "going cold" and 6-24ing it in game 7 and just emotionally and mentally checking out.
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He was alright in the Chi series and went full retard against the mavs, I'd call that going cold.
 
iamshadowlark said:
What? No one said lebron went cold. He didn't show up at all. There is a difference from "going cold" and 6-24ing it in game 7 and just emotionally and mentally checking out.
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He went cold because he checked out and that was because it was the finals. Kobe went cold not because he couldn't handle the pressure. LeBron went cold because he is weak-minded.
 
MorisUkunRasik said:
He was alright in the Chi series and went full retard against the mavs, I'd call that going cold.
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Cold? he got scared. It's one thing to shoot and miss, it's another to play with the basketball like it's hot potato.

Go re-watch games 3 and 4s 4th quarters. I'll distinctly recall turning to my friend in one of those games and saying "Lebron doesn't want the ball at all. Look, he's trying to pass the moment it's coming to him. wow."
 
Black Mamba said:
Afflalo cannot guard 3s. Pierce, no, although he's good. marion is one of the most overrated defensive players of the past 10 years, so definitely not. Sefalosha has an argument, but I wouldn't agree. I still think it's just Ron, Battier, and TA.




It's cute you think they can make a playoff push.
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I give him shit but Gimpy Iguodala was a top perimeter defender last yea...made even more impressive due to our lack of shot blockers of anykind. He fell off late due to the injuries but dude was pretty lockdown at times.

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Black Mamba said:
Cold? he got scared. It's one thing to shoot and miss, it's another to play with the basketball like it's hot potato.

Go re-watch games 3 and 4s 4th quarters. I'll distinctly recall turning to my friend in one of those games and saying "Lebron doesn't want the ball at all. Look, he's trying to pass the moment it's coming to him. wow."
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Yep. Kobe got cold in game 7. LeBron? LeBron checked out in the finals just like checked out last year's games 4-6 vs the Celtics.
 
reilo said:
No change in attitude, no change in gameplanning, no change in plays, no actual work put in. It was all "it will work itself out, they are too talented not to figure it out".


Oh geez, the playoffs are all about getting hot at the right time. Dallas? They got hot at the right time. Spurs? They went cold. Chicago struggled all playoffs but their competition was so pathetic in the first two rounds that it didn't matter.
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How does this make any sense? We didn't actually put in any work? We just became a good defensive team with a wish and a prayer? We just went into games and said fuck it?
 
iamshadowlark said:
How does this make any sense? We didn't actually put in any work? We just became a good defensive team with a wish and a prayer? We just went into games and said fuck it?
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Yeah, pretty much.

It came to a point where Spolstra said fuck it and stopped trying to gameplan for shit because Wade and Lebron just did whatever the fuck.
 
ClovingSteam said:
Yep. Kobe got cold in game 7. LeBron? LeBron checked out in the finals just like checked out last year's games 4-6 vs the Celtics.
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Wait thats exactly what I was saying. How can you cosign him and dispute what I said?
 
iamshadowlark said:
Lmao ok dude.
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What's your explanation then besides "no ur wrong dude"?

How many more times do you have to watch Lebron dribble the ball at top of the key for 20 seconds and then take a terrible 20-foot jumpshot in the fourth before you realize they don't give a fuck?
 
iamshadowlark said:
Lmao ok dude.
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You don't recall James complaining about Spo being too, whats the word...um, coach-y? Complaining about the lack of fun?

Remember Spo defeated saying their new scheme was play D and then And-1 it up on offense?
 
wade should get more shit for the dallas series

lebron carried his bum ass for three playoff series in a row

and then up against a team which is hilariously weak to opposing shooting guards what does wade do

instead of picking up the slack he fumbles the fuckin ball on an inbounds pass and forces mike miller to take the worst shot ive ever seen taken in the finals

and he missed crucial freethrows, that thing he did in 2006 that won them the damn championship

literally terrible
 
The Miami Heat's players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation. With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their past five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts.

Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job.
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"He's jumping on them," one source said. "If anything, he's been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn't believe it. They feel like Spoelstra's not letting them be themselves."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5862172
 
Black Mamba said:
you're right, let's go back to talking about the Jazz playoff hopes.





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Well, on to the next topic.
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The Jazz had a two game winning streak against teams that were resting players to end the season, deal with it. We may have been 10-30 and the worst team in the league other than the Timberwolves during the other parts of the second half of the year, but there's a winning streak going on for the team right now.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
The Jazz had a two game winning streak against teams that were resting players to end the season, deal with it. We may have been 10-30 and the worst team in the league other than the Timberwolves during the other parts of the second half of the year, but there's a winning streak going on for the team right now.
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The O'brien is practically theirs.
 
ClovingSteam said:
I'd ask you but I figure your mouth is all filled up with dream atm.
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did you just attempt to burn me by confirming you desire same sex blowjobs

i mean keep on keeping on if thats your thing man

but damn youre terrible at this
 
reilo said:
What's your explanation then besides "no ur wrong dude"?

How many more times do you have to watch Lebron dribble the ball at top of the key for 20 seconds and then take a terrible 20-foot jumpshot in the fourth before you realize they don't give a fuck?
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You and the grunt said we didn't work, "at all". We didn't get better. We made it to the finals simply because we were "hot".

Everybody knew the offense was "free flowing". Thats not what I am disputing.
 
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