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2011 NBA Offseason Thread |OT2| The 2K servers are back, baby, they back!
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I get what you were trying to say, but it's still odd that with 3 all stars you're looking for another someone else to be your knock down shooter late in games that is clutch as hell.ph33nix said:Maybe if your bum ass wasn't always looking to troll you'd see what I was actually trying to say
Anyways accept my friend request on battlelog or we're not friends anymore
Thats what i'd be laughing about.
Though... i guess, Kerr.
MorisUkunRasik
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Miller can't be counted on to be a 1st 2nd or even 3rd option, in MIA all he had to do was hit open 3s which he failed to do, partly cause of his jacked up hand. I'd be willing to guess once his hand is healed he could fill that role well enough.ItWasMeantToBe19 said:Mike Miller has zero total playoff win shares and has been absolutely horrible since April 2008.
I'm pretty sure he's never contributing anything to a playoff team ever.
I hope MIA cuts him and he joins a contending east team and tears it up though.
Today is the first day it has hit me that there is no NBA to watch.
On the other side, not sure how many of you watched the ESPN 30 for 30 last night. As a basketball fan it's a story you should learn about. One of the only local players to make it to the Boston Celtics and he was to sick to even enjoy it for a single moment.
He grew up in the city I was born and raised in. His entire fall was experienced first hand, but I never had any idea it was that bad.
On the other side, not sure how many of you watched the ESPN 30 for 30 last night. As a basketball fan it's a story you should learn about. One of the only local players to make it to the Boston Celtics and he was to sick to even enjoy it for a single moment.
He grew up in the city I was born and raised in. His entire fall was experienced first hand, but I never had any idea it was that bad.
ClovingWestbrook
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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:Today is the first day it has hit me that there is no NBA to watch.
On the other side, not sure how many of you watched the 30 for 30 last night. As a basketball fan it's a story you should learn about. One of the only local players to make it to the Boston Celtics and he was to sick to even enjoy it for a single moment.
I'd be sick to if I had to play for the Celtics.
I want to commend you for your best post in the last 1000 posts you've made.ClovingSteam said:I'd be sick to if I had to play for the Celtics.
still, a little harsh. But keep going from here!
Classless.ClovingSteam said:I'd be sick to if I had to play for the Celtics.
giri said:I get what you were trying to say, but it's still odd that with 3 all stars you're looking for another someone else to be your knock down shooter late in games that is clutch as hell.
Thats what i'd be laughing about.
Though... i guess, Kerr.
The whole reason our 3 best players took less than the max was so we could have money to sign Haslem and Miller because they knew they needed more help beyond themselves. Miller's role was to help spread the floor for our wing guys and to provide a little bit of scoring when one of them was sitting. He did none of those. Ever. Except in some randomass game against Toronto, I think. Miller was also fucking terrible in the finals. The asshole shot 2-5, 0-3, 0-1, 2-8, 3-5, and 0-1. Either he refused to shoot or if he did he shot terribly. Say whatever you want about LeBron but the team and management knew all along that Miller would need to play well in order for us to win on nights the stars were off, and he never did that.
And it'll be the same thing again next season. Heat can't expect to have 3 guys provide all the production and expect to win. That money he's making is mid-range level shit and if we had a better player at his value our chances of winning last year are way higher
A truism.giri said:Me, you, reilo, DY, all single lads, should go out pimping the ladies.
It works, because, DY will take the crazy lady while the rest of us hit on the normal hot ones.
ClovingWestbrook
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giri said:I want to commend you for your best post in the last 1000 posts you've made.
still, a little harsh. But keep going from here!
Nah
You can also take care of the overweight white chicks with low self-esteem.DY_nasty said:A truism.
I saw 30 for 30 last night and thought it was well done.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:Today is the first day it has hit me that there is no NBA to watch.
On the other side, not sure how many of you watched the ESPN 30 for 30 last night. As a basketball fan it's a story you should learn about. One of the only local players to make it to the Boston Celtics and he was to sick to even enjoy it for a single moment.
He grew up in the city I was born and raised in. His entire fall was experienced first hand, but I never had any idea it was that bad.
Adam Blade
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reilo said:You can also take care of the overweight white chicks with low self-esteem.
Who believe in the word of Moroni.
ClovingWestbrook
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Adam Blade said:Who believe in the word of Moroni.
lol.
Boombloxer
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Adam Blade said:Also, didn't know Boombloxer was married. Buncha old fogies in this thread...
*cough Baldingsteam *cough
Happily. We've been together for 3 years and got married on our anniversary. Games as hard as I do, cooks, and stunning. I already won.
And I don't really have anything against the 360, save for the fact that you pay to play online and it's exclusives are a joke.
The whole reason our 3 best players took less than the max was so we could have money to sign Haslem and Miller because they knew they needed more help beyond themselves. Miller's role was to help spread the floor for our wing guys and to provide a little bit of scoring when one of them was sitting. He did none of those. Ever. Except in some randomass game against Toronto, I think. Miller was also fucking terrible in the finals. The asshole shot 2-5, 0-3, 0-1, 2-8, 3-5, and 0-1. Either he refused to shoot or if he did he shot terribly. Say whatever you want about LeBron but the team and management knew all along that Miller would need to play well in order for us to win on nights the stars were off, and he never did that.
And it'll be the same thing again next season. Heat can't expect to have 3 guys provide all the production and expect to win. That money he's making is mid-range level shit and if we had a better player at his value our chances of winning last year are way higher
Ok, so if you had to amnesty one guy, who is it?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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MorisUkunRasik said:Miller can't be counted on to be a 1st 2nd or even 3rd option, in MIA all he had to do was hit open 3s which he failed to do, partly cause of his jacked up hand. I'd be willing to guess once his hand is healed he could fill that role well enough.
I hope MIA cuts him and he joins a contending east team and tears it up though.
lol, Miller has shot 32% from three in the playoffs in his career and has been scared to shoot for the last three and a half years. He is just a horrible basketball player.
And it'll be the same thing again next season. Heat can't expect to have 3 guys provide all the production and expect to win. That money he's making is mid-range level shit and if we had a better player at his value our chances of winning last year are way higher
But all mid-range money players suck pretty much.
iamshadowlark
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Yeah honestly I'd rather have reshard lewis. Even after the big roid bust.ph33nix said:The whole reason our 3 best players took less than the max was so we could have money to sign Haslem and Miller because they knew they needed more help beyond themselves. Miller's role was to help spread the floor for our wing guys and to provide a little bit of scoring when one of them was sitting. He did none of those. Ever. Except in some randomass game against Toronto, I think. Miller was also fucking terrible in the finals. The asshole shot 2-5, 0-3, 0-1, 2-8, 3-5, and 0-1. Either he refused to shoot or if he did he shot terribly. Say whatever you want about LeBron but the team and management knew all along that Miller would need to play well in order for us to win on nights the stars were off, and he never did that.
And it'll be the same thing again next season. Heat can't expect to have 3 guys provide all the production and expect to win. That money he's making is mid-range level shit and if we had a better player at his value our chances of winning last year are way higher
Is he Rashard's special brother?iamshadowlark said:Yeah honestly I'd rather have reshard lewis. Even after the big roid bust.
LoLdiddles said:this season is a total bust. it's not gonna be 82 games, so it doesn't matter who wins it all. they'll always be taunted with the asterisk like the 1999 spurs (shortened season) and the both the 2009 and 2010 lakers (only won due to injured opponents)
Does anyone really hold the shortened season against them? i know i don't. They still had to get through 50 games. And in fact played a very grueling season cramming 50 games into a shorter time frame than normal. Then had to play all the play off series still. And proved it wasn't a fluke by winning again.
Also, you're not eligible to reply Loving as you won't be able to reply intelligently.
Here's the problem with the Mike Goku Miller thing: you have three all-stars, why do you need another guy to hit a million threes. Answer: because two of your stars are redundant with only one heart and zero consistent jumpers between them. The Celtics didn't need another guy to play like Ray Allen because they had real Ray Allen.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Alonzo Mourning almost won MVP in the lockout shortened season.
It was a pretty fluky year and it only became validated later when the Spurs won again.
It was a pretty fluky year and it only became validated later when the Spurs won again.
I'd agree, but it's certainly a nice to have in your pocket, thing. The mavs had J.Kidd in that role, really.Branduil said:Here's the problem with the Mike Goku Miller thing: you have three all-stars, why do you need another guy to hit a million threes. Answer: because two of your stars are redundant with only one heart and zero consistent jumpers between them. The Celtics didn't need another guy to play like Ray Allen because they had real Ray Allen.
Yeah but Kidd is a future HOFer and a top-3 all-time PG in his prime. Mike Miller has a ponytail.giri said:I'd agree, but it's certainly a nice to have in your pocket, thing. The mavs had J.Kidd in that role, really.
Plus the Mavs do not have three all-stars.
The Frankman
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.Big Baby via Twitter said:Take the 51% man and let's play.
He's like the anti-JAX.ph33nix said:the whole problem with mike miller is that shooting an open shot is apparently a disease to him
They do have quite the payroll though, it's not like the Mavs are cheaping out here. But they constructed a team, not talent, that's the contrast.Branduil said:Yeah but Kidd is a future HOFer and a top-3 all-time PG in his prime. Mike Miller has a ponytail.
Plus the Mavs do not have three all-stars.
I don't disagree with the statement, but it's not .... really unheard of to need that spacing.
iamshadowlark
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Shaquille O'Neal spent one season with LeBron James playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers and talks about their time as teammates in his forthcoming autobiography.
LeBron was a huge star, ONeal wrote in the autobiography. He was as big as I was in 2000 in L.A. when I was dominating the league.
Our coach, Mike Brown, was a nice guy, but he had to live on edge because nobody was supposed to be confrontational with LeBron. Nobody wanted him to leave Cleveland, so he was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do.
I remember one day in a film session LeBron didnt get back on defense after a missed shot. Mike Brown didnt say anything about it. He went to the next clip and it was Mo Williams not getting back and Mike was saying, Yo, Mo, we cant have that. Youve got to hustle a little more. So Delonte West is sitting there and hes seen enough and he stands up and says, Hold up, now. You cant be pussyfooting around like that. Everyone has to be accountable for what they do, not just some us. Mike Brown said, I know, Delonte. I know. Mike knew Delonte was right.
Im not sure if Kobe [Bryant] is going to listen to Mike Brown [now Lakers coach]. LeBron never really did.
MorisUkunRasik
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giri said:Is he Rashard's special brother?
It's the name of the show Lewis is going to do after he retires where he goes into the past to make things right.
Well of course you need spacing, the problem is the Heat get no spacing from their stars.giri said:They do have quite the payroll though, it's not like the Mavs are cheaping out here. But they constructed a team, not talent, that's the contrast.
I don't disagree with the statement, but it's not .... really unheard of to need that spacing.
Imagine if instead of Lebron and Bosh, the Heat signed Amare, Haywood, and some PG and SF who can shoot.
MorisUkunRasik
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MorisUkunRasik said:It's the name of the show Lewis is going to do after he retires where he goes into the past to make things right.
Namely turning down that Adele sized contract.
ryutaro's mama
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iamshadowlark said:posted?
And then LeBron begat Comic Sans.
I don't think Bosh is the problem, he can hit the jumper (aside from basically being a bitch all season).Branduil said:Well of course you need spacing, the problem is the Heat get no spacing from their stars.
Imagine if instead of Lebron and Bosh, the Heat signed Amare, Haywood, and some PG and SF who can shoot.
But yes, Haywood would have been good. Or Camby.
The Frankman said:
Seen this coming from a mile away, players are getting desperate while the owners are just laughing at them slowly break down.
Bosh isn't the problem, but Amare is better.giri said:I don't think Bosh is the problem, he can hit the jumper (aside from basically being a bitch all season).
But yes, Haywood would have been good. Or Camby.
Amare comes with huge risks though. Guy is just as likely to finish as league MVP next year, as he is to retire from a career ending injury.Branduil said:Bosh isn't the problem, but Amare is better.
No, it is wired.reilo said:The Deathadder is not wireless?
The wireless version is the mamba.
I've had the mamba, it's v.good. I forget how i broke mine.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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giri said:Amare comes with huge risks though. Guy is just as likely to finish as league MVP next year, as he is to retire from a career ending injury.
No, he's like ten times more likely to have a career ending injury next year than win MVP.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Damn, that ploy on Survivor worked out perfectly, thought it would blow up for sure.
iamshadowlark said:posted?
Surprised?
I found it hilarious all along that people actually thought Mike Brown had no offensive playcalling abilities. He's from Pop's staff...Pop is the single best play designer in the league, except maybe Carlisle now.
I remember Rich Bucher a couple years ago on the Simmons podcast talking about Lebron constantly ignoring the plays Brown drew up and just doing 1-4 High isolations or wing PnR's. Simmons didn't believe him and thought it was just bad coaching by Brown.
It was pretty clear all along that Mike Brown had to have a more complicated and intricate offense than what the Cavs were running day to day. I'd say the same of Spoelstra. But unlike Phil and Riley who had moderate success in getting their stars to stick to the offensive game plans, Brown and Spoelstra had NO success. Well, that's a lie, I distinctly remember the Heat's offense being MUCH more fluid a few years ago than last season...I wonder why
ryutaro's mama
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Vahagn said:I found it hilarious all along that people actually thought Mike Brown had no offensive playcalling abilities. He's from Pop's staff...Pop is the single best play designer in the league, except maybe Carlisle now.
This is why I'm playing the wait and see on how he does with the Lakers.
Mike was powerless in CLE, even though he had that Pop pedigree.
If Kobe pulls a fuck you on him, then there might be problems but I not jumping to judgment.
If he fails, I'll be the first to admit it.
Black Mamba
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Chris Mannix
One of the top stories on hoopshype is how Kim Kardashian unfollowed Kris Humphries on Twitter. Come back, NBA. Come back.
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Mike Brown being an NBA Championship Coach is going to be so awesome out here. Too bad we have to wait to 2019 before they play again.
Wired mice are preferable.reilo said:The Deathadder is not wireless?
Kevin Durant said:Kobe, Lebron, and Wade are probably 1A, 1B, and 1C in the league...those guys are just another level from everybody else.
I agree with this sentiment completely. Kobe can be 1C it doesn't matter. But what those 3 guys have that Carmelo, JJ and Durant don't have is their Defense, but more importantly, their ability to run the team.
They've shown that they can run the offense and be trusted to alternate from scoring to distributing without needing an actual PG alongside them to do the job. Carmelo, Pierce, Durant etc. aren't the type of guys you can run the offense through for 82 games a season.
While I love Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, or Derrick Rose...I fundamentally believe that a total package wing in this league is more important than a total package big man and a total package PG.
Unless that total package big man is Timmy...but that's not happening again for a LONGGGGGG time.
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