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2011 US Open Thread of Pushin' it to the Limit

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There's still technically the World Finals in Shanghai at the end of the year. But no one really care about that round-robin, 3-set shit. Although I do like how only the top seeds get to participate.
 
Djokovic will win every trophy for the next 3 years :P I'm being silly, but seriously, he owned the former world no. 1 player FIVE finals in a row. Insane...

Clegg said:
Fed was leading 2 sets to 0 and Novak fought back to 2 sets all. Then in the 5th set Fed was serving and had 2 match points. Novak hit a great return so Fed lost a BP.

But then Fed choked on his 2nd BP. He mentally crumbled and Novak won the the next few games to win the match.
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Oh wow, crazy. That's kind of sad for Fed. It sucks when a great player can do more but concedes due to mentally giving up.
 
Man, what have I gotten myself into here.
My first tennis thread since I joined so I could also discuss this beautiful game and you run into like only 1 guy that knows what he's talking about for every 10 fucking idiots. Damn.
 
Arghhh I cringe every time they mention the damn prize money. Novak's blank expression as they read out the figures just shows how meaningless that is.
 
rapid32.5 said:
yeah, I think it was the best tennis match I've seen, not even Fed/Rafa Wimbledon comes close in intensity.
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Not even close to the best, but that was probably the most physical match I have ever seen.
 
Diprosalic said:
beating nadal on clay != beating nadal in RG
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I'm not saying its the same, but giving evidence that it can happen as well. Just saying its possible, especially how much Djoker's gotten into Nadal's head this year.
 
WTF happened? I was watching a bit at the inlaws and Djokovic was looking injured and they flashed on the screen how many times he's retired in matches. Then I had to drive home cause it's the girls bedtime and I see he won 6-1??
 
DiZ_O said:
Man, what have I gotten myself into here.
My first tennis thread since I joined so I could also discuss this beautiful game and you run into like only 1 guy that knows what he's talking about for every 10 fucking idiots. Damn.
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Wadda you wanna talk about brah?
 
Great job Novak! Big congrats, glad to see him finally getting some spotlight time. :P Was a great match, shame it ended so drained, but was great to watch regardless!
 
DiZ_O said:
Man, what have I gotten myself into here.
My first tennis thread since I joined so I could also discuss this beautiful game and you run into like only 1 guy that knows what he's talking about for every 10 fucking idiots. Damn.
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Is it because Rafa lost?
 
Speevy said:
The French?

Not against Nadal he won't.
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LOL. Nadal hasn't even managed to take a set off of Djokovic on clay this year in 2 matches. Can ANYONE say that?

Djokovic would have MAULED Nadal in the final.
 
Diprosalic said:
beating nadal on clay != beating nadal in RG
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i'm pretty sure if novak didn't have all that rest after the quarter finals at RG this year, he would've beaten fed and subsequently nadal in the finals.
 
tycoonheart said:
As well as he played at the us open this year novak was playing his best tennis at the french, IMO. That 4 day break was unfortunate.
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Yeah, that fucking Fognini what that damn walkover. He shouldn't have even won against Chela >:(
 
Djokovic won by a hair against Fed with normal conditions here. I think we can stop dismissing Fed's victory against him on the long rest.
 
Clegg said:
Is it because Fed lost/Delpo's always broken?

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No, I love watching tennis in the first place.
How can one not enjoy what we are being presented with these days, regardless of who is playing.
 
Rafa=FedKilla said:
His GF already forgave him for that, thry are back together.
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Yeah I know. Doesn't change the fact that the dude sounds like he's addicted. Didn't they say something like he'll buy a Playstation at every tournament if he doesn't have one with him? Need to sacrifice to be the best!
 
Strangest final Ive seen in awhile. Momentum clearly swinging Rafa's way, then the injury timeout, and Djoker comes back and dominates?? I would blame Djoker for breaking the momentum, but Rafa looked like Rafa from the first 2 sets. Oh well, 3rd set was delicious.
 
Speevy said:
I'm confused now.

Rafa could have probably beaten Fed, but Fed did better against Djokovic.
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Djokovic Nadal killa ?

I think Fed's game is more suitable against Novak. Fed's shots that do not not miss are quicker and penetrating defenses better. Nadal likes to spin a lot, gives more time for Novak to read his game.
 
rapid32.5 said:
Djokovic Nadal killa ?

I think Fed's game is more suitable against Novak. Fed's shots that do not not miss are quicker and penetrating defenses better. Nadal likes to spin a lot, gives more time for Novak to read his game.
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Yep. A lot of tennis is about match-ups, something Fed haters forget about when they spout off about the Nadal h2h. In the end, it is how you play against the field, not against one guy.
 
Last year, Nadal won his career Slam, and was #1. He was anointed as the new "unstoppable one." This year Djoker has his number, and he even looked shaky on clay. Before that, people were wondering how long Federer's God mode was going to last. (Which shows how impressive his reign on top was, given its length and dominance. He was literally untouchable for close to 5 years. )

Who knows what next year will bring? Its all so fragile. Look at DelPo. And if the muscle memory is just slightly off, they're not going to paint the lines like before. See Rafa's forehand tonight. (Each time he ran around the ball to go for it it sailed wide or long. Hell, even Federer's forehand doesn't appear like "the great liquid whip" that DF Wallace wrote about as much anymore. Just excited to see what the future of the sport brings and what levels its going to be elevated.

Its exciting times to be a tennis fan...
 
Oh my fucking god. This. Is. Tennis. This final was so damn good too watch. The constant break points, the actual breaks, the rallies. Goodness gracious, the rallies. It must be hard being any other tennis player in the world and watching this knowing you'll probably never play a match like it. Some of these rallies were just breath taking, granted it could've been a little better if Nadal was attacking more than he was defending but still, it could've been a great tactic if he worked on it some more. It must've been the game plan he worked out with Toni. I wonder if it was also him that encouraged Rafa to motivate himself on court more often, he looked like a damn beast quite a few times. And in the third set tiebreak, when you see Nadal do the "come on" to uncle Toni and you immediately see the camera switch to him saying "vamos". Jesus fucking christ. I got chills, I got chills down my spine. This is such an amazing sport. This match will be crazy to rewatch as much as possible, you can learn so much from it, the footwork was top notch, the variety in strokes how and when they were used. I can't wait to watch it again, I'll probably watch it at least once a month from now on
 
rapid32.5 said:
Djokovic Nadal killa ?

I think Fed's game is more suitable against Novak. Fed's shots that do not not miss are quicker and penetrating defenses better. Nadal likes to spin a lot, gives more time for Novak to read his game.
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If ANYONE is going to beat Djokovic, it's Federer. But I think that it's remarkable that Djokovic, out of the 3, is the only one that is able to withstand the bad match-up more so than the others.
 
MIMIC said:
If ANYONE is going to beat Djokovic, it's Federer. But I think that it's remarkable that Djokovic, out of the 3, is the only one that is able to withstand the bad match-up more so than the others.
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I agree and this is what gets me madder about Fed. Nadal looks relatively helpless against Nole in this string of matches. But every Nadal - Fed match has a moment that makes you say "If Fed wasn't stupid he could have won this"
 
Porthos said:
Yep. A lot of tennis is about match-ups, something Fed haters forget about when they spout off about the Nadal h2h. In the end, it is how you play against the field, not against one guy.
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This x 1000.

Nadal has not been able to outgrind Djoko with his defense and insane topspin like in the past. Also has been feasting on his serve. Djoko>Nadal

Fed plays a game of geometric efficiency so it puts Djoker on defense more often. Fed>Djoker (most of the time)

Haven't seen much of Fed vs Nadal except for at RG. But traditionally, Fed can't keep up Nadal's grinding topspin. Nadal>Fed.
 
Why don't people hold against Nadal that when Fed was at his peak, Nadal was not very good at hard court so he didn't get to the finals? That makes the h2h lopsided with clay matches, because Federer WAS getting into every final.
 
clemenx said:
Why don't people hold against Nadal that when Fed was at his peak, Nadal was not very good at hard court so he didn't get to the finals? That makes the h2h lopsided with clay matches, because Federer WAS getting into every final.
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Well it's starting to get LESS lopsided off of clay:

Overall: 6-5, Federer
Grass: 2-1, Federer (haven't played since 2008)
Hard: tied at 4-4
 
clemenx said:
Why don't people hold against Nadal that when Fed was at his peak, Nadal was not very good at hard court so he didn't get to the finals? That makes the h2h lopsided with clay matches, because Federer WAS getting into every final.
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To have a h2h record against Federer like that is very impressive either way.

But yes, as much as I like Nadal as a player and a person (at least how he presents himself), Federer is a greater all-round player. From 2005 to the 2010 Aussie, he made at least the semi-finals of all GS. That's 21 straight. (!)

(I'm taking pains to avoid the "GOAT" can of worms. Its an argument that can't be answered at this moment.)
 
Yes, of course. Not denying Fed is Nadal's bitch. Is not like Federer is Sampras on clay, he SHOULD have gotten at least one FO from Rafa. Just a minor detail that I think never gets mentioned.
 
Interesting: Nadal stopped Federer from having the CYGS (3 times) and then, ironically, Federer stops Djokovic from the very same thing.

Nadal was on track to catch up to Fed's slam tally....then comes Djokovic to deny him 2 in a row.

These 3 guys are fucking over each others' records, lol
 
Novak might block Nadal from breaking Feds Slams record.

And Joker's girlfriend looks better than 98% of these Miss Universe contestants.
 
MIMIC said:
Interesting: Nadal stopped Federer from having the CYGS (3 times) and then, ironically, Federer stops Djokovic from the very same thing.

Nadal was on track to catch up to Fed's slam tally....then comes Djokovic to deny him 2 in a row.

These 3 guys are fucking over each others' records, lol
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That's why I love this sport - the intrigue beyond the boundaries of the court...
 
lucius said:
Novak might block Nadal from breaking Feds Slams record.

And Joker's girlfriend looks better than 98% of these Miss Universe contestants.
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If Nadal doesn't win the next 2 slams he's suddenly behind Federer's pace. Fed had 12 slams at 26. I remember when people were saying Nadal was much better cause he was winning at an earlier age. All of a sudden at 26 he may be behind.
 
Manics said:
If Nadal doesn't win the next 2 slams he's suddenly behind Federer's pace. Fed had 12 slams at 26. I remember when people were saying Nadal was much better cause he was winning at an earlier age. All of a sudden at 26 he may be behind.
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I hope that happens.
 
Manics said:
If Nadal doesn't win the next 2 slams he's suddenly behind Federer's pace. Fed had 12 slams at 26. I remember when people were saying Nadal was much better cause he was winning at an earlier age. All of a sudden at 26 he may be behind.
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And Donald Young is still on pace with Djokovic.
 
Manics said:
If Nadal doesn't win the next 2 slams he's suddenly behind Federer's pace. Fed had 12 slams at 26. I remember when people were saying Nadal was much better cause he was winning at an earlier age. All of a sudden at 26 he may be behind.
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That's why all of those "GOAT" arguments were fun, but moot in the end. The state of things are in flux, we probably won't know until Fed and Rafa are retired, and Djoker's at the tail end of his career to really know.
 
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