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2016-17 TV Cancellations Thread: TNT finds "Nothing can come of nothing."

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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
always saw "get over it" said to someone who is repeataly upset or complaining about something, when I was just curious and poiting it out. But whatever, I think I'm just getting too old for the internet.
 

water_wendi

Water is not wet!
always saw "get over it" said to someone who is repeataly upset or complaining about something, when I was just curious and poiting it out. But whatever, I think I'm just getting too old for the internet.
Thats my understanding of "get over it." Its like saying "deal with it."
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
For some reason most streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon) have all decided to refer to first run exclusive shows as originals. It's what they're called now, get over it.

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I fucking love Sunny. First few season are amazing. Then, they kind of lost their way a bit, but found their way back to being good. Until the last two seasons. I think the last two season have been absolute shit outside of an episode or two (Mac and Dennis Move to the Suburbs was fucking great). I'm pretty okay with the show ending after the last season in particular.





That doesn't seem easy to do in a swimming pool.

The producer filmed an amateur porno and wasn't comfortable with the footage?
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
Deadline - ‘Last Man Standing’: CMT Explores Pickup For Tim Allen Sitcom Post-Cancellation

There is a new potential suitor for canceled ABC comedy series Last Man Standing. CMT, which carries reruns of the Tim Allen-starring sitcom, has engaged in conversations with the studio behind Last Man Standing, 20th Century Fox TV, about possibly ordering original episodes. The talks are preliminary, exploring the financial feasibility of producing the series for CMT. A deal is considered a long shot though not impossible.

While the studio has reached out to the writers on the show, who had all left to pursue other jobs, the cast has not been approached about extending their options, which expire in two weeks. Depending whether talks with CMT progress, the studio would likely move to pick up the actors if there is a reasonable chance for a deal.
 
Lol

Why would they spinoff something from a show that is currently Friday night burn-off material? Then again, they are the network that was dumb enough to make a Riverdale/Dynasty night in their fall schedule, so maybe they really are this stupid.

Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the vast majority of TVD/TO but the franchise isn't strong enough for any spinoffs at this point in time.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
That would have to set some sorta record, right? For lowest rated program to ever get a spin-off?
 

Bluth54

Member
Showtime only put Twin Peaks episodes 3 and 4 up early on their streaming service right?

I see episodes 3 and 4 each got around 195K viewers while episode 5 had around 250k and 6 had around 270k viewers. A little bit of an uptick but still not amazing. It would be interesting to see if the streaming numbers held up.
 

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
For some reason most streaming services (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon) have all decided to refer to first run exclusive shows as originals. It's what they're called now, get over it.
Are you talking about their shows they acquired through acquisition?
 

berzeli

Banned
Are you talking about their shows they acquired through acquisition?
It varies, some of the shows they go in and co-produce early on, some they acquire for distribution, and the weirdest one is when they become co-producers after the fact (mind you, it's not just Netflix who do this) by heaping money on the producers until they get a credit. But generally yes.

The very first show that Netflix called "A Netflix Original Series" (see this trailer for instance) was Lilyhammer. Which wasn't commissioned by Netflix, but they got the exclusive US distribution rights for.
 
Are you talking about their shows they acquired through acquisition?

If you watch stuff like Better Call Saul or Fargo through netflix in countries other than US, it does not mention FX AT ALL and only says "A Netflix Original Series" in huge letters at the beginning. So any foreign viewer will simply assume BCS and other shows are simply made by Netflix.

Its amazing branding and crazy how Netflix is getting away with it, I guess FX doesn't really care that overseas viewers don't know who they are but it definitely is adding to Netflix' prestige, internationally.
 
Showtime only put Twin Peaks episodes 3 and 4 up early on their streaming service right?

I see episodes 3 and 4 each got around 195K viewers while episode 5 had around 250k and 6 had around 270k viewers. A little bit of an uptick but still not amazing. It would be interesting to see if the streaming numbers held up.

As far as I can tell Showtime has been completely silent about Twin Peaks and I'm Dying Up Here's numbers after they released the streaming numbers for the first few days of the first four TP episodes which they almost certainly did to dampen all the stories about how bad the premiere ratings were.

IDUH is still an absolute catastrophe--it got the same sub-Roadies 0.03 demo rating for its second episode. At this point I'm sure Showtime just wants this summer to be over.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
If you watch stuff like Better Call Saul or Fargo through netflix in countries other than US, it does not mention FX AT ALL and only says "A Netflix Original Series" in huge letters at the beginning. So any foreign viewer will simply assume BCS and other shows are simply made by Netflix.

Its amazing branding and crazy how Netflix is getting away with it, I guess FX doesn't really care that overseas viewers don't know who they are but it definitely is adding to Netflix' prestige, internationally.

American Gods is the same btw. Those ads I mentioned I'm seeing a lot only say "Amazon Original", no mention of Starz.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Going to have to disagree. Came back to the show after i heard it got better (dropped it early S3) and both the Ghost Rider arc and the Framework arc were great. S4 ended strong enough for me to be there day 1 for S5.
I have a total bias against VR/holodeck/time travel stories because they typically become the science fiction equivalent of "it was all a dreeeeeeeeeeeam" stories, so I probably was never going to like the VR arc.

I'd say Agents of Shield or iZombie hold that title.
I tried to get into iZombie but I couldn't after it was clear the Spike-clone was evil and she was too dumb to notice it. Dramatic irony works sometimes, but when it makes the main character look completely incapable, it just takes me out of the experience.

IDUH is still an absolute catastrophe--it got the same sub-Roadies 0.03 demo rating for its second episode. At this point I'm sure Showtime just wants this summer to be over.
Will fans have to send tomatoes to Showtime to get them to save the show?
Or unsold Carrot Top/Dane Cook comedy albums?
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
I just finished season 3 of Agents of SHIELD and really enjoyed that. How does season 4 hold up? Was it as good as season 3?
The Ghost Rider arc anyway is probably the best thing they've done. But mostly because they stopped trying to pretend it was #allconnected and just did their own thing with their own superhero.
 

maxcriden

Member
I tried to get into iZombie but I couldn't after it was clear the Spike-clone was evil and she was too dumb to notice it. Dramatic irony works sometimes, but when it makes the main character look completely incapable, it just takes me out of the experience.

Spike clone? Was that in S1? The show has improved by leaps and bounds since then.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Spike clone? Was that in S1? The show has improved by leaps and bounds since then.
Yeah, got like five episodes in and the "evil Zombie" shows up around then (I call him Spike clone since he apparently asked the guy who played Spike about bleaching/dying his hair for the role, according to wiki anyway) and she still doesn't notice that he's clearly evil so I just gave up.

If you watch stuff like Better Call Saul or Fargo through netflix in countries other than US, it does not mention FX AT ALL and only says "A Netflix Original Series" in huge letters at the beginning. So any foreign viewer will simply assume BCS and other shows are simply made by Netflix.

Its amazing branding and crazy how Netflix is getting away with it, I guess FX doesn't really care that overseas viewers don't know who they are but it definitely is adding to Netflix' prestige, internationally.
This is probably it, since you basically have to be an Asian TV nerd to know where all the Japanese and Korean shows they brand as "Netflix originals" originally aired. Although I guess with the newer Japanese stuff they're co-pros.
 

Joni

Member
Yeah, got like five episodes in and the "evil Zombie" shows up around then (I call him Spike clone since he apparently asked the guy who played Spike about bleaching/dying his hair for the role, according to wiki anyway) and she still doesn't notice that he's clearly evil so I just gave up.
So you are either talking about Blaine who is found out by episode 3 or about Lowell who is actually a good guy...
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
That's kinda weird that Netflix/Amazon are doing that, though in retrospect Netflix has been doing that for a while
Netflix Original basically means "timed or permanent streaming exclusivity in this particular region". Which is to say, it has almost no meaning at this point. It certainly can't be used to determine whether Netflix had anything at all to do with production.
 

berzeli

Banned
That's kinda weird that Netflix/Amazon are doing that, though in retrospect Netflix has been doing that for a while
Netflix Original basically means "timed or permanent streaming exclusivity in this particular region". Which is to say, it has almost no meaning at this point. It certainly can't be used to determine whether Netflix had anything at all to do with production.
Netflix has been doing it literally always.

I double checked, the very first Netflix Original branded series was Lilyhammer. And not only was it not commissioned by Netflix, they were not co-producing the first season of it either.
 

Fuzzy

I would bang a hot farmer!
Netflix Original pretty much has the same meaning as EXCLUSIVE during the MS E3 press conference.
 
Netflix has been doing it literally always.

I double checked, the very first Netflix Original branded series was Lilyhammer. And not only was it not commissioned by Netflix, they were not co-producing the first season of it either.

Yup, Lilyhammer was immediately what I thought of
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Totally missed that Ronny Chieng's new show aired in Australia (with presumably an American air date at some point since I assume he's still a Daily Show guy?). Just in time to make up for Dr. Ken's cancellation. :p
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that

WaffleTaco

Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
It varies, some of the shows they go in and co-produce early on, some they acquire for distribution, and the weirdest one is when they become co-producers after the fact (mind you, it's not just Netflix who do this) by heaping money on the producers until they get a credit. But generally yes.

The very first show that Netflix called "A Netflix Original Series" (see this trailer for instance) was Lilyhammer. Which wasn't commissioned by Netflix, but they got the exclusive US distribution rights for.
I find it odd that they use Netflix Orginal for stuff like that, especially if the shows are not necessarily good. Almost depreciates their value in my eyes and makes it hard to find their actual original shows. I would prefer a different branding, basically a "Netflix Exclusive" for basically everything they don't produce themselves.

If you watch stuff like Better Call Saul or Fargo through netflix in countries other than US, it does not mention FX AT ALL and only says "A Netflix Original Series" in huge letters at the beginning. So any foreign viewer will simply assume BCS and other shows are simply made by Netflix.

Its amazing branding and crazy how Netflix is getting away with it, I guess FX doesn't really care that overseas viewers don't know who they are but it definitely is adding to Netflix' prestige, internationally.
It's extremely odd. But I imagine your reason is probably the correct one.
 

Chitown B

Member
Netflix Original pretty much has the same meaning as EXCLUSIVE during the MS E3 press conference.

No. MS says which kind of Exclusive. Console Exclusive. Console Launch Exclusive. Exclusive (which doesn't really exist anymore since all MS E's are play anywhere now I think). World Premiere Exclusive.
 

tchocky

Member
I find it odd that they use Netflix Orginal for stuff like that, especially if the shows are not necessarily good. Almost depreciates their value in my eyes and makes it hard to find their actual original shows. I would prefer a different branding, basically a "Netflix Exclusive" for basically everything they don't produce themselves.

Amazon UK has started doing this now. They either label the shows Amazon Original or Amazon exclusive.
 
My dream is Twin peaks gets "cancelled" and they just push the rest of the episodes out on demand immediately. That would be one hell of a binge trip.
 

berzeli

Banned
Zack Van Amburg & Jamie Erlicht Exit As Sony Pictures TV Presidents

Oh hey wonder where they'll g-

Apple Taps Sony TV’s Zack Van Amburg & Jamie Erlicht As Heads Of Programming
Apple is announcing its arrival in the original programming space in a big way with the hire of outgoing Sony Pictures Television presidents Jamie Erlicht and Zack Van Amburg to oversee all aspects of worldwide video programming for the tech giant. The duo will report to Eddy Cue, Apple’s SVP of Internet Software and Services.
Oh.
 

xrnzaaas

Member
The Originals getting a spinoff is pretty unexpected since that show is on life support for quite some time now. But I guess it's more likely to succeed if it's treated as a brand new show rather than a new season of The Originals with a lot of the cast missing.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that

El Topo

Member
The Originals getting a spinoff is pretty unexpected since that show is on life support for quite some time now. But I guess it's more likely to succeed if it's treated as a brand new show rather than a new season of The Originals with a lot of the cast missing.

CW getting desperate maybe? Better try a spin-off than another No Tomorrow?
 

Joni

Member
The Originals getting a spinoff is pretty unexpected since that show is on life support for quite some time now. But I guess it's more likely to succeed if it's treated as a brand new show rather than a new season of The Originals with a lot of the cast missing.

CW getting desperate maybe? Better try a spin-off than another No Tomorrow?

Please note the difference between producers hoping and The CW ordering.
 

ZeroX03

Banned
Their sub numbers are in the low 6 figures? Hmm. I'm going to stand firm with my theory that Sesso is almost completely supported by the comedians that have shows on there and their friends watching the shows they're creating. It's like YouTube, but just the L.A. comic scene lol.

No, that's basically it.

I love all those comics too, but that shit is on lock down. If the service dies hopefully the content just goes global on Netflix, I can't imagine there's huge any reason for it not to.

Justified is pretty good.

We know.
 
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