Basileus777
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This is not a defense for the human rights violations related to this World Cup. Regardless of whether or not it occurs without it, there's nothing wrong with anger at more of it happening for a sports event.
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2022 World Cup to begin in November
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This is not a defense for the human rights violations related to this World Cup. Regardless of whether or not it occurs without it, there's nothing wrong with anger at more of it happening for a sports event.
jts
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You're assuming England makes it to the WC.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Well, obviously; I'm angered too, because I had no idea before they had slaves in Qatar, and I was naive to think that slavery was something of the past, only occurring sporadically in dictatorships.
But I don't see how any of this has anything to do with the sport. I still find awesome that we are going to have a World Cup in Qatar of all places, a country I only had heard from name before; we will learn and see a whole new culture, etc.
And if the world cup will be better in November, then let's play in November, and let the european leagues change their calendars, play in the summer and so (something which southern hemisphere countries ALWAYS do, because of FIFA dates being thought in the north).
Big deal, nothing will happen because of date changes, just a stupid problem with easy solution.
Not true. A club or player can't refuse a call up unless injured and the country who called the player up can request their own medical to make sure the injury is legit.
They dropped because it was in Sochi, halfway around the world, instead of in Vancouver which is the same timezone.
A player is allowed to refuse, a club can't refuse a player to go. A lot of players have at one point stated they want to retire from their national team for multitudes of reasons.
True but it was also the lowest-rated primetime Olympics in the adults 18-49 demographic ever. Hopefully FIFA and Co. suffer, and they will in the USA
Perfect Blue
Banned
lmao wtf
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
a player is suspended if they refuse. It is why France had so many players come out of retirement because the coach kept calling them up otherwise they would be suspended from club duty
Higher than Torino in total numbers.
"As a general rule, every player registered with a club is obliged to respond
affirmatively when called up by the association he is eligible to represent on
the basis of his nationality to play for one of its representative teams."
So sayeth FIFA
Broder Salsa
Banned
If a player wants to drop out of the national side, they will. Especially if it's a decision supported by the club that pays them their multi-million pound a year contract to do so, and especially if it means missing 3 months of the season for that club. Footballers have never held more power over their own careers than they do nowadays.
If there's a massive club and player backlash against this from the European elite the FA's will suddenly become laughably powerless.
There's no way this os financially possible in european leagues. I expect the players asociation will no be happy about this, all this trouble to keep the tournament in a country that bribed their way to it no less.
I just don't see it happening, they should move it to the US.
I just don't see it happening, they should move it to the US.
In that case, some national teams seem to make no problem of it because I remember quite a few players doing that because they don't want to appear in the national team anymore. In which case national coaches can choose between calling up people who don't want to go and will show up anyway but play badly.
FortuneFaded
Member
It would have to be a massive backlash that would force FIFA to change their own rules. If they are willing to go ahead with a winter world cup knowing the backlash I can't see them changing the rules to allow players to miss the world cup.
I hope the clubs and leagues do fight back against this but I can't see anyone willing to risk all that over a winter world cup.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
most coaches respect it when a player has turned over 30 and has a good career of representing the team.
The_Hitcher89
Member
Voting for Qatar is the worst thing FIFA has ever done. Just disgraceful from top to bottom.
Blatantly corrupt, unworkable, human rights infringements, shortsighted, no room for growth there. It basically ticks all the boxes for 'reasons not to vote for a country to hold the World Cup.
Blatantly corrupt, unworkable, human rights infringements, shortsighted, no room for growth there. It basically ticks all the boxes for 'reasons not to vote for a country to hold the World Cup.
Oh please. There's a dome in Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Houston, St. Louis, Detroit, Phoenix, if you're that concerned about the relatively weak possibility of a terrible heat wave. Not to mention cities like Seattle and San Francisco where super hot heat waves aren't typical.
Basileus777
Member
This is getting in the way of some pretty big businesses now.
A lot of time the national coaches wont call up players they know will refuse out of respect for the player. You see this a lot with players who have retired from international football.
FortuneFaded
Member
Wenger = Fifa. Coat Pocket = How to make the Qatar World Cup work.
Torino was also an Olympic all-time low, and Sochi lost the key 18-49 demo. In other words it's not good for the IOC and Co.
Hopefully FIFA ratings plummet in the USA and it surely will in Nov/Dec
Didn't seem like they wanted much "cultural exchange" when their sports minister told gay people they shouldn't go lol. Or the whole clothing debacle :
Can't wait for more cultural exchange !!!
That whole thing has been a farce from day one.
Haha, chances of winning. Good one
if, could be, can
Yep, I'd rather watch my club play on boxing day than watch a winter world cup.
Blatter talks absolute BS about spreading good values or whatever by giving the world cup to these countries. Russia and Qatar are a bloody joke. It's only about the money. Countries should change before to be considered and be able to support stadiums etc. post World Cup and not waste funds that could be better spent elsewhere, Brazil basically screwed public funding for the World Cup and people were raging, and masses of people in poverty, South Africa, ghost town of infrastructure and stadiums, poverty etc. still big issues. The World Cup should not be going to these places. FIFA are doing nothing good, only expanding their profit.
Germany, England, France could hold a World Cup easily in no time. Europe could host one across many countries and that is great for fans and I think that should be done more often and for the UEFA cup. A football party across Europe.
Germany, England, France could hold a World Cup easily in no time. Europe could host one across many countries and that is great for fans and I think that should be done more often and for the UEFA cup. A football party across Europe.
spectral_method
Banned
Can't imagine doing anything at 40c. That is hot as fuck, players are gonna need water breaks every 10 minutes lol.
Final will be on the 23rd, so that should still be possible.
gutter_trash
Banned
I am one of those voices who says: stop building new stadiums that won't be re-used and just hold these events in countries that ALREADY have stadiums and infrastructure built already.
Spain+Portugal has up to date stadiums, infrastructure, good weather, good public transit, affordable food.
England's top EPL teams have modern stadiums already built; public transit is solid,
but nope nope, they chose Putin controversial Russia,
The concept of building a Stadium in the middle of the Amazon (Manaus) that does not even have B League team, a stadium built for one time use then left for dry is super retarded and wasteful.
stop being wasteful; and use the modern stadiums from top teams that are already EXISTING
Arjen
Member
Probably not busines as usual, the Beer Companies alone will be extremly pissed off.
Delicious Waffles
Member
Should've just brought it to the US. We have every type of stadium you can think of: soccer specific, non-soccer specific, domed with air conditioner. FIFA, we got ya covered.
Can Crusher
Banned
Just saw this on twitter
WHAT THE FUCK
It must have hurt you deep inside to say this.
Just saw this on twitter
Let's grab a beer and watch overpaid douchebags kick a ball around. Oooh yeahhh, worth it.
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Zero is a chance.
For the US, it isn't just pro gridiron that will distract US sports fans. There are college games on Tues. and Wed. just for TV. The NFL has a game on Thurs. There are thousands of high school games on Friday with a college game on TV. Saturday has college games going for up to 14 hours if ESPN televises a Hawaii game. And then Sunday is NFL for 12 hours.
If the US hosted again, the final would be at Jerry World (AT&T Stadium), which is indoors.
I agree. It should be a natural evolution from what the country already supports and if not, across more than one country in reasonable distance which is great for fans and the countries themselves. I don't care if the country has billions to spend on new stuff, wasting public funding or just wealth of the few, it isn't right.
UEFA Euro 2020 will be held across 13 Cities, 13 different Countries. It's an anniversary special but I think it should be a regular occurrence between big hosting countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020.
SteveWinwood
Member
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Seriously, it is such an unbelievable farce.
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