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2033 or Last Light: Which Metro is best Metro?

justjim89

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I beat 2033 a few years ago and am currently replaying it, and I beat Last Light a couple of days ago on Ranger mode (not Ranger Hardcore, I need some kind of UI for use prompts and QTE's). 2033 was such a fantastic, refreshing experience and it was one off the first really immersive FPSs I'd played since Half Life 2. But it sure as hell had some rough edges. The stealth and reliance on throwing knives, coupled with AI where every enemy instantly knew where you were the second you messed up made the sneaking a pain. And the stupid stupid section near the end where you have to slowly follow the guy and protect him while being attacked by all the bubbles soundly trounces and monster closet or boss fight in Last Light in terms of frustration.

Last Light certainly made a few concessions in the name of accessibility, and was overall a much easier game, but I think it kept the soul of Metro and a lot of the same heart, while improving the pacing, set pieces, stealth, and even the story. I know it may sound silly, because 2033 is based on an actual book and Last Light's plot was fabricated, but I thought the sequel told a decidedly better tale than the former. Last Light felt like a much more personal drama for Artyom compared to 2033's rather apersonal mystery of "The fuck is up with the Dark Ones?" In Last Light, for me, the betrayals hit harder, the stakes felt higher, and the victories big and small felt much more meaningful. I got what I suppose you could call the "bad ending" but even that was pretty satisfying to me. Seeing Artyom redeem himself and save so many before the end made me feel some genuine emotions I wasn't expecting.

Last Light just felt like it had a bit more personality and character depth as well. Pavel, the Child, Kahn, and even Anna all seemed more fully realized than anyone in the first game. I was pissed when Pavel betrayed me, but still found myself sympathizing with him a bit in the final encounter.

And thee stealth was so much more fully-realized in LL. Takedowns, easier-to-acquire silenced weapons, and actual degrees of suspicion and detection made stealth a more legitimate option. Not to mention most big rooms featured some sort of alternate path for those looking for one.

All in all, I gotta say Last Light felt a lot better for me, but I'd imagine there are those that prefer 2033. What do y'all think?
 
The rough edges you mention of 2033 are a non issue in the new release. I liked 2033 way more. It is less conventional in how it is structured and the story was more interesting and mysterious.
 
I prefer 2033 for its atmosphere and the way it considered the environments it created. There were a lot more pieces where you simply pumped a train cart and saw the cobbled-together infrastructure in the metro.
 
Both games are great, and it is one of my favourite franchise out there. I like Metro 2033 a little bit more, somehow it felt more "russian" for me, which was a huge factor in favour for the atmosphere for me. It may also be related to the fact, that I read the original book years before the game actually came out.
 
Both games are great, and it is one of my favourite franchise out there. I like Metro 2033 a little bit more, somehow it felt more "russian" for me, which was a huge factor in favour for the atmosphere for me. It may also be related to the fact, that I read the original book years before the game actually came out.

Did you ever read the sequel ? I keep seeing it in my local bookshop and considering buying it .
I agree also with the "russian" point, its one of the reasons I love the stalker series as well
 
Before I prefered Last Light because it had better pacing, atleast working stealth system (even if too easy), better encounters, better hit detection on enemies and better weapon handling, some cool boss battles, some better and more open levels and more living metro stations where you could actually do something meaningful

But now that there is Redux versions of both games, I think it's a tie now.. in 2033 they made some really cool changes to many of the levels, they flow now better, less loading screens, they have taken some stuff from LL which was in that game better (gun handling, hit detection, better stealth system, etc.) and put it in the Redux version, so yeah..

And the atmosphere is still more horror and spooky in 2033, even though LL has still many moments like that and some of the DLC missions are brilliant - like Khan's mission, the Spider Lair, Kshatriya is in the vein of a STALKER game (which is great :) ).. but I enjoyed even the shooting Gallery, the AI Arena, the Metro Museum, the mission for the Red Line sniper..
I had the feeling that Metro 2033 was like a mix between Call of Duty & STALKER, and LL was like a Russian (Ukrainian) HL2 .. I like them both the same, great unique FPS/stealth games
 
I haven't been able to get through 2033 Redux (keeps crashing), so out of original 2033 and LL, I enjoyed LL a lot more. They both had great environments, but LL had great pacing, gameplay, and feel to me. I know Redux fixes the gameplay for the most part, but even with the fixes in place, I think LL would still win out for me.
 
Played both, they are pratically identical if you ask me. Maybe the first it's more scary in some point, but I haven't noticed particular difference in the quality of the gameplay.
 
I beat 2033 a few years ago and am currently replaying it, and I beat Last Light a couple of days ago on Ranger mode (not Ranger Hardcore, I need some kind of UI for use prompts and QTE's). 2033 was such a fantastic, refreshing experience and it was one off the first really immersive FPSs I'd played since Half Life 2. But it sure as hell had some rough edges. The stealth and reliance on throwing knives, coupled with AI where every enemy instantly knew where you were the second you messed up made the sneaking a pain. And the stupid stupid section near the end where you have to slowly follow the guy and protect him while being attacked by all the bubbles soundly trounces and monster closet or boss fight in Last Light in terms of frustration.

Last Light certainly made a few concessions in the name of accessibility, and was overall a much easier game, but I think it kept the soul of Metro and a lot of the same heart, while improving the pacing, set pieces, stealth, and even the story. I know it may sound silly, because 2033 is based on an actual book and Last Light's plot was fabricated, but I thought the sequel told a decidedly better tale than the former. Last Light felt like a much more personal drama for Artyom compared to 2033's rather apersonal mystery of "The fuck is up with the Dark Ones?" In Last Light, for me, the betrayals hit harder, the stakes felt higher, and the victories big and small felt much more meaningful. I got what I suppose you could call the "bad ending" but even that was pretty satisfying to me. Seeing Artyom redeem himself and save so many before the end made me feel some genuine emotions I wasn't expecting.

Last Light just felt like it had a bit more personality and character depth as well. Pavel, the Child, Kahn, and even Anna all seemed more fully realized than anyone in the first game. I was pissed when Pavel betrayed me, but still found myself sympathizing with him a bit in the final encounter.

And thee stealth was so much more fully-realized in LL. Takedowns, easier-to-acquire silenced weapons, and actual degrees of suspicion and detection made stealth a more legitimate option. Not to mention most big rooms featured some sort of alternate path for those looking for one.

All in all, I gotta say Last Light felt a lot better for me, but I'd imagine there are those that prefer 2033. What do y'all think?

both are great games

original 2033 had better stealth and atmosphere.
Enemies were smart, have unique hitpoints like neck or unprotected face, guns felt better and more lore friendly. Not to mention many superior graphical effects in 2033, dynamic lighting and so on. for example shooting gun causes creating actual lights and shadows. Smoke is also top tier.
 
both are great games

original 2033 had better stealth and atmosphere.
Enemies were smart, have unique hitpoints like neck or unprotected face, guns felt better and more lore friendly. Not to mention many superior graphical effects in 2033, dynamic lighting and so on. for example shooting gun causes creating actual lights and shadows. Smoke is also top tier.
Original 2033 had better stealth?

Is this a joke? That game had some of the most broken stealth I've seen in a game and many others would agree.
 
Original 2033 had better stealth?

Is this a joke? That game had some of the most broken stealth I've seen in a game and many others would agree.

I have really enjoyed it, this is no joke.
It felt realistic and satisfying not just crouch, go behind bad guy, press take-down button prompt, repeat.

I found great that sometimes it was better to actually avoid any contact with enemy rather than eliminate all of them one by one
 
original 2033 had better stealth and atmosphere.
Enemies were smart, have unique hitpoints like neck or unprotected face, guns felt better and more lore friendly. Not to mention many superior graphical effects in 2033, dynamic lighting and so on. for example shooting gun causes creating actual lights and shadows. Smoke is also top tier.

Did Last Light have the un-armoured weak points on enemies? I really loved that feature from the first game even though I think it may have contributed to the consensus that 2033 has "bad shooting." If you get enemies in the side of the torso, the neck or the face then they go down really fast even when using the lower quality bullets. Tossing a throwing knife out of the darkness and landing it in a dude's neck always felt awesome.
 
Do you realize he wanted to kill you at the end? xD

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Why did I click on thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!
 
Currently playing 2033 Redux and I have huge troubles following the plot. Every chapter throws new location, fractions and characters at you. Everything just sort a happens and the game doesn't take it's time to let you in. Very frustrating imo. Does this get any better? I'm in chapter 4 now.
 
Currently playing 2033 Redux and I have huge troubles following the plot. Every chapter throws new location, fractions and characters at you. Everything just sort a happens and the game doesn't take it's time to let you in. Very frustrating imo. Does this get any better? I'm in chapter 4 now.

No, it gets worse.
 
To echo others, I feel Last Light has the better controls/mechanics, but 2033 definitely has the better atmosphere, story and the Metro actually feels like a crumbling Metro with people struggling to survive, you don't really get that feeling from the Metro stations in LL.
 
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