PhoenixDark
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Blader5489 said:
err what. I loved the political aspects of that season, Jack of course was awesome, etc. The only thing I didn't like was the constant kidnapping, which almost ruins it.
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err what. I loved the political aspects of that season, Jack of course was awesome, etc. The only thing I didn't like was the constant kidnapping, which almost ruins it.
Jack Scofield
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Season 5 is definitely the best season. I like the first one, but the excruciatingly bad amnesia plotline was beyond ridiculous, which is why I'm surprised so many people hold it in such high-esteem.
The Take Out Bandit
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Vanish said:
Correction, three middling quality seasons, two good seasons, and one big fat shit in my mouth.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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So what? It's not like most of the people posting won't tune in for 7. When something sucks ass as much as 6 did, it's expected that people will be apprehensive about the next season of it.Vanish said:
omg rite has the most ridiculous habit of absolutely losing his shit just because people have opinions.
Kabuki Waq
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one bad season?
wtf? the past 3 or 4 seasons have all been extremely Cheesy predictable and filled with plot holes.
wtf? the past 3 or 4 seasons have all been extremely Cheesy predictable and filled with plot holes.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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All six seasons are like that. The difference is that the other seasons had other reasons to watch, while season 6 only had episode 17.Kabuki Waq said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Yes, I've totally "lost my shit". Exaggerate much? You're one of the people who is constantly negative about everything, don't call me out for saying something doesn't suck.
Solo said:
So you don't post on GAF? The opinion I described is all over this board. People LOVE season 5. It's very often someone's favorite or right behind season 1. How have you not noticed that?
Vanish said:
This.
Was Season 6 the worst season of 24? Yes
Was Season 6 not up to par with the rest of the seasons? Yes.
Was Season 6 a fucking shithole? No.
There were some misfires, but the season ended well, and there were good parts to season six. In all honesty, they are WAY WAY WAY the fuck ahead of schedule for filming 24 season seven. There is no reason to be concerned. Fuck, they even have a Season 7 Prequel Movie.
No worries here.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Don't answer your own questions to yourself if you're not going to answer them correctly.Bloodwake said:
Many episodes of season 6 were sleep-inducing, and it's a fucking action show. Jack spent the last six episodes saving his fucking nephew from his dad, as if anyone gave a fuck about either of those characters or they had any place in the global terrorism story of the show.
Stoney Mason
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
So fucking bad that was. And now we get Zombie Tony. sigh...
Thinking about it, another reason I am growing weary on 24 is Keifer himself. Can you smile at least once, you morose bastard? Jack's been borderline manic depressive these past few years, or at least, thats how Keifer has played him. He was never sunshine and roses, but at least he had some life to him earlier.
iapetus said:You see, to answer the rallying cry of the terminally jingoistic, this is why people hate America. You run this crap into the ground for six series and cancel Firefly before the end of the first.
Sadly, I don't think the rest of the world cared about Firefly either. :[
The Take Out Bandit
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iapetus said:You see, to answer the rallying cry of the terminally jingoistic, this is why people hate America. You run this crap into the ground for six series and cancel Firefly before the end of the first.
As with everything else that is wrong with modern America - blame the corporations.
Our "benevolent benefactors" deemed Firefly unworthy of airing properly, and unfit for our consumption.
Who are we to question The Machine?
I was inspired by this thread to write a longer blog post, but I think the general problem with the show is that the formula has become formulaic. What was once something extremely fresh and interesting has become a parody of itself, needing to be that much more sensationalist in its opening hours, needing the action sequences to pit Jack that much more against the odds, and in some cases to throw in character twists or developments designed to create tension in entirely inorganic ways.
The result is a show that acts like 24, that wants to be like 24, but lacks that something new or interesting that made the first three seasons work (Yes, I'm including the third - it's the one I'll defend to the end). The problem is that the fifth season, arguably the best since the first, was only better because of Itzin and Smart - in its success, the producers seemed to think that it was an excuse to keep going at the normal pace instead of realizing that lucking into two Emmy-nominated performers was not something that would work so easily in the future (See: Cromwell, James).
The funny thing is that this delay is actually good news: starting early has given them the ability to take two weeks without delaying the season and try to put together an ending (something Season 6 sorely lacked), and this should be positive for the show. But because we're all so conditioned to the show's planning problems, all the news is doing is reminding us that this means the first 18 episodes were all leading in a direction that the writers couldn't follow through with; and if we combine with the whole zombie issue, forgive those of us who take this news as one more sign that the show has to pull itself together at some point.
The result is a show that acts like 24, that wants to be like 24, but lacks that something new or interesting that made the first three seasons work (Yes, I'm including the third - it's the one I'll defend to the end). The problem is that the fifth season, arguably the best since the first, was only better because of Itzin and Smart - in its success, the producers seemed to think that it was an excuse to keep going at the normal pace instead of realizing that lucking into two Emmy-nominated performers was not something that would work so easily in the future (See: Cromwell, James).
The funny thing is that this delay is actually good news: starting early has given them the ability to take two weeks without delaying the season and try to put together an ending (something Season 6 sorely lacked), and this should be positive for the show. But because we're all so conditioned to the show's planning problems, all the news is doing is reminding us that this means the first 18 episodes were all leading in a direction that the writers couldn't follow through with; and if we combine with the whole zombie issue, forgive those of us who take this news as one more sign that the show has to pull itself together at some point.
Anasui Kishibe
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oh boy, let's expect some more of "I hate you JACK" "..but Kim, I know, I'm sorry.." "Shut up JACK" crap
Jason's Ultimatum
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Zedsdeadbaby
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Awww look like we won't be seeing him crying in cars for a little while.
PotatoeMasher
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WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN! CHILDREN CHILDREN CHILDREN!
Looks like a fantastic new adventure for our hero Jack. :/
Looks like a fantastic new adventure for our hero Jack. :/
Zombie James
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Jason's Ultimatum said:
This is the new 2-hour preview/movie thing, right? Is it still using the real-time idea? If so, that's a lot of shit going on in a 2 hour time span... in other words, the exact same problem the past 4 seasons have had.
NinjaCodah
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I find it hard to believe that some people consider season 2 to be better than season 3...
Season 2: The Retarded Adventures of Kim Bauer and the Mountain Lion
Season 2: The Retarded Adventures of Kim Bauer and the Mountain Lion
Stoney Mason
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Coop said:
Her entire plotline that season was embarrasingly dumb. The cougar was just the culmination of it. She's pretty much been an awful character from anything past the first season.
Stoney Mason
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Solo said:
You know that little bit never did much for me personally. I mean it was alright but I never thought it blew my mind and it seemed sorta predictable to me. I personally found Ryan Chappelle's death (S3) far more gut wrenching and surprising. To each his own. Season 3 is one of the more hated seasons but I've always find it one of the more entertaining ones.
PhoenixDark
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Stoney Mason said:
Especially
Jack: Do you have any family or friends?
Chapelle: No, I don't have any friends. Outside of the people at work...
:lol
Stoney Mason said:
Chapelle had no endearing qualities, so I had no attachments to his character. Mason on the other hand was sort of a lovable asshole type of character, one who wasnt afraid to bend the rules, but at the end of the day, he would do the right thing. He was my favorite character on the show, so I did have that attachment with him.
Stoney Mason
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Solo said:
That's valid if that's the way you felt about him. Personally Nina was always my favorite character so whenever she was involved no matter how hokey it was past the first season I enjoyed it.
I was always saddened that it never turned into a breakout role for that actress.
Of course she did get hitched to Mason in real life so...
Jason's Ultimatum
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Whaaaaaaat. Chappelle's death scene was . The man did NOT want to die and was scared shitless. I think that's what made it so sad and emotional, especially the acting.
Also, season 2 would've been one of the best if they got rid of the Kim story arch. The main plot about an oil (?) man trying to start a war in the mid east that would've made him richer was kinda awesome. Sadly, that's not how 24 works. I still think season 4 had so many wins.
. The man did NOT want to die and was scared shitless. I think that's what made it so sad and emotional, especially the acting.Also, season 2 would've been one of the best if they got rid of the Kim story arch. The main plot about an oil (?) man trying to start a war in the mid east that would've made him richer was kinda awesome. Sadly, that's not how 24 works. I still think season 4 had so many wins.
Come to think of it, one of the reason's for 24 having such a downfall in recent seasons is that the show, so caught up in shock-tactics/"no character is safe!" antics, had all but killed off all its best characters by the end of S3.
And then of course there is the most retarded example of this, the premiere of S5, where they killed off 3 (well, 2 now that Tony is back) of the most loved characters in a span of 5 minutes. Palmer's made sense as a catalyst for the season, but Michelle and Tony seemed like nothing but pure shock value. Michelle was one of my other favorite characters.
And then of course there is the most retarded example of this, the premiere of S5, where they killed off 3 (well, 2 now that Tony is back) of the most loved characters in a span of 5 minutes. Palmer's made sense as a catalyst for the season, but Michelle and Tony seemed like nothing but pure shock value. Michelle was one of my other favorite characters.
Stoney Mason
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Solo said:
There is no doubt the revolving door cast played a role in the decline of the show. Killing off characters to establish big things is neessary in a show like 24 (and something I respect to a degree) but they did fall in love with it. Killing Curtis for example was an example of just killing off someone just to kill off someone and get a cheap emotional moment.
What.Jason's Ultimatum said:
Season 4 is the worst and most ridiculous season. The whole "Let's destroy every fucking nuclear power plant in the US - online!!" story was such a joke. Plus, the season introduced Audrey Raines and James Heller, the two worst recurring characters on 24 ever.
S2 was almost perfect, S1 and S5 close behind.
Stoney Mason
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Sloane said:
Heller is fine. Audrey on the other hand is quite annoying to me.
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