mAcOdIn said:
While I do think that soldiers are an acceptable target:
a) I do think the manner in which they were killed was cowardly especially without an open declaration of war type thing. For that alone I would already condemn those losers and anyone who associates with them as these are men first and soldiers second and as such deserved a mans death.
b) Attacking the pizza guys really just puts it over the top and makes the perpetrator your average run of the mill psychopath that would probably have killed for anything but since he found some stupid fringe group believes he's killing for something bigger than himself.
c) That means this small group of idiots doesn't give a rats ass about what it's people want and are intent of changing the world for their small little group. Fuck them. They're not doing it for any real country, as they don't feel their own countrymens opinions mean shit.
a) You've being playing too much Total War if you think there's any honor to it. Whether you're armed or unarmed, taking the violent route when there's a peaceful option makes anyone involved cowardly, there's no difference.
b) I don't think they deliberately targeted the pizza guy... it was disgusting he was hurt but I'm fairly sure they didn't intend to kill him. Then again collateral damage is almost as big a sin as murder anyway.
c) They are almost exactly like an Islamic terrorist group in Palestine. They were born of a clumsy and flawed deal that resulted in the creation of Northern Ireland, and have elevated the idea of a United Ireland to religious levels. Just like there's no real solution in Isreal/Palestine there's not one in Ireland, the Brits just came along and pushed the pause button for 10 years, so this happened.
Don't get me wrong I hate the RIRA as much as I hate loyalist parimilliatries and Hamas, but there more to all of these groups than they are "psychopaths".
But please actually listen to my point:
I have two points here, first of all if you enlist in the any kind of army you've taken a road of violence and should expect to be met by violence. The second point is that despite this, the RIRA are idiots that continually fail to learn from histories lessons, it didn't work for Ireland before, it's not going to work now and people both sides of the border are just getting sick of it.
But the people in here that are cool with the situation as it is really need to wise up. When Ireland was partitioned the unionists took the biggest chunk they possibly could get away with, there was nothing fair about it. You complain that it would be unfair to make the loyalist population live in the republic of Ireland, but that's exactly what you did to the republicans that live in the 4 counties of Northern Ireland with nationalist majorities.
Those counties
still have nationalist majorities, and yet the peace process does nothing to solve this situation. So instead of just calling terrorism and leaving it at that, stop making the same mistake the Americans are making with the Middle East - you can sort out the unjust situations that lead a small number of people to commit violent acts without being seen to condone them.
Repartition Ireland, the unionists can complain all they like that it would more than halve their territory, but democracy has to work both ways, so far all it's been is the south sitting and waiting for Britain and the North to agree to actually
do something.
