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[FUBAR McDangles]

Most of it sounds good.

 

[FZW]

But 343 ruined the old ones too

But 343 didnt develop the old ones...

 

[killer rin]

"Opt- in for killcam"

Great news. They listened!

Thats one. Now where is my opt-in for ADS. Its a complete disgrace to the series

 

[Peterpan]

That's my overall opinion as well. I think the negatives greatly outweight the negatives which is why I prefer no sprint.

If there's positives, then there is always a way to balance it to become more favorable to the the positives.

 

[oreomunsta]

Go the actual link and not just the summary in the OP. More info there, including:

Read again

They are changing them to be less bro-ness but not removing them. Suppose it hides a loading screen or something.

Thanks guys! I'm on mobile, so I thought the OP covered mostly everything. Dumb me for assuming :]

 

[YuShtink]

Seriously could not give a half of a shit about Halo 5. Won't touch another 343 game after MCC. Don't understand how all of you guys can just keep going along with being hand fed dog shit by these hacks. They'll never change.

 

[watership]

Seriously could not give a half of a shit about Halo 5. Won't touch another 343 game after MCC. Don't understand how all of you guys can just keep going along with being hand fed dog shit by these hacks. They'll never change.

Halo 5 beta was fun. That's how I measure a games worth, not the dev's previous games.

 

[The Lamonster]

Sorry, but I cannot take any of this seriously after MCC.

Fix that shit and then we can talk about your new game.

 

[Andrew Ryan]

Seriously could not give a half of a shit about Halo 5. Won't touch another 343 game after MCC. Don't understand how all of you guys can just keep going along with being hand fed dog shit by these hacks. They'll never change.

The lesson learned is don't day 1 games, wait to see what the reality of the product is first so you can bypass the PR aka reviews. I finally bought an X1 for pretty damn cheap and was excited to play this, only to see 3 months out its still broken. So I'll keep waiting for them to get their act together before I give them a penny (will wait for a heavy discount because of how they've treated this game) so I won't be pissed off

 

[BuggeryBugz]

Seriously could not give a half of a shit about Halo 5. Won't touch another 343 game after MCC. Don't understand how all of you guys can just keep going along with being hand fed dog shit by these hacks. They'll never change.

Because we understand that people and companies make mistakes but based on what I played in the beta, I enjoyed it. So don't buy anymore 343i games but don't question when other people want to. They seem to be listening to fans.

 

[Coconut]

I can't tell if you're joking or not.

The sniper was clunky to zoom in with in the beta. That was a needed change.

I'm not joking snipers and shotties being way to easy to use ruin online multiplayer games and I really wish that a dev would suck it up and make getting a one shot kill really mean something.

 

[IncognitoPanda]

I am really liking the changes, but a lot of them are damage control for a lot of design decisions I don't agree with. I am ok with losing Halo, though, it had a good run. I'm curious about H5 either way and if it'll be good, good. If not, then I won't cry for it.

 

[YuShtink]

Because we understand that people and companies make mistakes but based on what I played in the beta, I enjoyed it. So don't buy anymore 343i games but don't question when other people want to. They seem to be listening to fans.

I'm sorry but if they were really listening to the fans they would have done a lot more to fix MCC by now instead of quietly trying to sweep it under the rug and wisk them along to the next game that will surely be a disaster.

 

[Twin Tails]

Kill cam gone? Halo is saved

 

[NeOak]

Even then it would probably be like

30% against Sprint
70% For Sprint


What I don't get is the whole ADS
In other games, a regular human being is firing a gun, and doesn't get knocked out of scope
But a Super Soldier.....gets knocked out of scope


even if none of that stuff the purist complain about does not get removed

its still leaps and bounds better than MCC, which still feels so criminal that everyone who purchased that should get Halo 5 for free

Only way to know the %s is to run a poll.

As for ADS, the old zoom didn't take you out of zoom if you got shot and had no visibility downsides unlike the "scooped" ADS with zing.derp derp

But 343 didnt develop the old ones...

He means the MMC.

You can't play the original H2 online on Xbox Live anymore.

 

[Sunset Prince]

I'm sorry but if they were really listening to the fans they would have done a lot more to fix MCC by now instead of quietly trying to sweep it under the rug and wisk them along to the next game that will surely be a disaster.

How are they trying to "sweep it under a rug"? They constantly inform us about new updates and ongoing problems.

Anyways, i thought H5 beta was a lot of fun. Pretty much all of these changes seem reasonable. I'm pretty hyped

 

[BokehKing]

Halo 5 beta was fun. That's how I measure a games worth, not the dev's previous games.

MCC is supposed to be.... The end all be all

Not halo 5

Its straight up disrespectful

That's like putting out a "link collection" of zelda games, with a link to the past remastered

And none of them work as intended or advertised.

 

[jem0208]

As for ADS, the old zoom didn't take you out of zoom if you got shot and had no visibility downsides unlike the "scooped" ADS with zing.

Err, what? Yes it did (bar Halo 4)

 

[NeOak]

Err, what? Yes it did (bar Halo 4)

What?

OMFG I'm druuuuuuuuunk

 

[BuggeryBugz]

I'm sorry but if they were really listening to the fans they would have done a lot more to fix MCC by now instead of quietly trying to sweep it under the rug and wisk them along to the next game that will surely be a disaster.

This has nothing to do with the MCC. I got a refund for my copy of that so I understand how you feel but I am not willing to not play their new game that I've enjoyed so far because of it.

 

[Booties]

I liked shooting grenades out of the air. Maybe I didn't play enough to be annoyed by it.

 

[YuShtink]

How are they trying to "sweep it under a rug"? They constantly inform us about new updates and ongoing problems.

Anyways, i thought H5 beta was a lot of fun. Pretty much all of these changes seem reasonable. I'm pretty hyped

Nothing has been said in a week and it's been 3 months now since release with no actual solution in sight. Not even a release date for this new beta (which is an insult anyway), And now everyone has already shifted their attention to Halo 5 with that beta. Mission accomplished. Mark my words - it will never be fixed.

 

[RBK]

I liked shooting grenades out of the air. Maybe I didn't play enough to be annoyed by it.

It happened way too frequently.

No one has that good of a aim to do it almost 50% of the time.

 

[YuShtink]

This has nothing to do with the MCC. I got a refund for my copy of that so I understand how you feel but I am not willing to not play their new game that I've enjoyed so far because of it.

I think it has plenty to do with MCC because 343 is employing tons of people on the next project before they fix their own mess. They should be publically ridiculed and shamed when they try to say anything about Halo 5 until they get their act together and fix MCC, imo.

 

[The Shogun]

Wow sounds like they are responding great to the feedback. Pretty much every single thing listed sounds spot on and a big improvement.

The Beta 1 year out was a VERY smart move.

 

[Unstable]

I would rather sprint be removed, but I'm realistic. Slightly faster base movement and slower sprint is the best we're going to get. Faster strafing is an all around positive, never minded the kill cam or Spartan chat.

Hide CSR ranks until in match to de-incentivize quitting

Best change out of all of these, I can't tell you how many times the other team would just quit the second they saw I was a pro. Made getting matches a rarity.

Overall really good changes. Honestly, I'm quite surprised that they actually listened to our feedback. Props 343.

 

[Ominym]

I'll certainly be more interested in seeing how Halo 5 plays out now. But this will continue to be the first Halo game I don't buy at launch, and I think anyone else would be wise to do the same.

 

[Ominym]

11% my ass.

And who didn't see that one coming anyway?

343, something something self selection bias.

Only 11%? Wtf I can't simply understand why anyone wants sprint in halo.

It's 11% of the people who took the survey, so the participant pool was already small. It's likely a larger number if everyone's opinion was included, but I'd guarantee that pro-sprint would surpass it. And I say that as a nay-sprint person.

 

[Booties]

It happened way too frequently.

No one has that good of a aim to do it almost 50% of the time.

I do.

 

[JaggedSac]

Josh Holmes' plan worked


People believe the 11% number as a definite


Great. Glad to see.

This whole 11% thing is really getting your goat.

 

[RBK]

I do.

 

[BuggeryBugz]

I think it has plenty to do with MCC because 343 is employing tons of people on the next project before they fix their own mess. They should be publically ridiculed and shamed when they try to say anything about Halo 5 until they get their act together and fix MCC, imo.

I'll leave you to your 343i vendetta then.

 

[MegalonJJ]

Has ADS been ditched with a return to proper classic scopes?

 

[Owari]

Give me big team and team slayer playlists with no sprint/abilities and I'll actually buy it.

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But judging from this they are listening. It's a good sign.

 

[EvB]

It's 11% of the people who took the survey, so the participant pool was already small. It's likely a larger number if everyone's opinion was included, but I'd guarantee that pro-sprint would surpass it. And I say that as a nay-sprint person.

I don't think it would be , I think it's only a small subset of halo players anyway and if you took everyone into account that number would be smaller because the casual players of halo outnumber the hardcore anyway.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I enjoyed the beta.

 

[Jrs3000]

I think it has plenty to do with MCC because 343 is employing tons of people on the next project before they fix their own mess. They should be publically ridiculed and shamed when they try to say anything about Halo 5 until they get their act together and fix MCC, imo.

343 must have pissed in your kool-aid today, rite? A company can't make a mistake nor work on multiple games at the same time? I can't take you serious and you're straying far off topic man, be careful.

I'm glad they fixed my gripes with the speed, and aiming bonus. I almost wish they'd open the beta up for a weekend just to get a feel of how it plays now with the changes.

 

[YuShtink]

343 must have pissed in your kool-aid today, rite? A company can't make a mistake nor work on multiple games at the same time?

Oh they can, it just makes them look like scumbags and is a slap in the face to everyone who bought MCC and still can't enjoy it. Every week or so I'm reminded of how much of disgrace the situation is and get pissed off all over again. It's ridiculous and should still be a daily talking point over Halo 5 until it's actually remedied.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Let them. I'm fine with sprint and the reduced delta.

My feedback broke down as follows:

I see enough of my concerns addressed that I'll be comfortable picking this up at launch.

Nice, thoughts on the Light Rifle?

Changes the way Halo is played. With tweaks, faster base movement, bit slower sprint and thrusters, I think fights become freshly interesting, but still maintain that Halo dueldancing, since just sprinting to safety isn't that easy.

I think by them increasing base speed while not increasing sprint speed will result in less sprinting as well. It could work well.

 

[Fata1moose]

Seems like everything I put in the survey was addressed in some manner, which is nice. I outright said sprint should be removed, but at least they are slowing it down a bit. Base movement speed definitely needed a boost. With the old rockets coming back as a legendary weapon it gives me hope the the Halo 1 magnum can be a legendary power weapon as well.

 

[Grazzt]

I enjoyed the beta too. Most of these changes are what I want. Thank you 343i for listenning to the fans.
So...











Another beta please???

 

[Fata1moose]

Let them. I'm fine with sprint and the reduced delta.

My feedback broke down as follows:

FE/HUD
- Watching my CSR go up and down can be strangely demoralizing. One, I’m apprehensive about messing up and dropping from Silver to Bronze and two, on the rare occasion where I’ve carried my team with a decent K/D ratio and still dropped CSR, seeing that negative number is another kick to the balls. Is pulling back the curtain that much really necessary?

I see enough of my concerns addressed that I'll be comfortable picking this up at launch.

I actually liked this, in Halo 3 you couldn't tell where you stood in terms of ranking up after winning seven games in a row and not ranking up.

 

[Jessie.Bristol]

I enjoyed the beta too. Most of these changes are what I want. Thank you 343i for listenning to the fans.
So...











Another beta please???

A Big Team Battle Beta would be glorious (be a nice E3 surprise).

 

[TheXbox]

Good on them for listening. I won't be playing any more Halo games for a long time but the series and its fans deserve way better than what they've gotten.

Not gonna lie, though, I'm a little appalled only 11% of people surveyed want sprint gone. I would have thought it would be much higher, maybe like a third. Shows how much I know. They don't make these games for me anymore.

 

[Phat Michael]

I'm playing halo 1 right now. It sucks not having a sprint function. I don't understand how people can not want this function. While traversing these wide open areas, it sucks having to walk everywhere.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

I'm playing halo 1 right now. It sucks not having a sprint function. I don't understand how people can not want this function. While traversing these wide open areas, it sucks having to walk everywhere.

Talking about BTB? Problem there is the lack of vehicles and spawns (vehicle and player). Halo CE doesn't need sprint for 2v2-4v4 gameplay.

 

[Grazzt]

A Big Team Battle Beta would be glorious (be a nice E3 surprise).

+1
I'm looking forward to some new vehicles. Please 343i, make this happen.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I'm playing halo 1 right now. It sucks not having a sprint function. I don't understand how people can not want this function. While traversing these wide open areas, it sucks having to walk everywhere.

The movement speed is one of the reasons why I never much cared for Big Team Battle. 4v4, small-medium sized maps tho? It's fine.

 

[abadguy]

Halo 5 beta was fun. That's how I measure a games worth, not the dev's previous games.

Especially previous games they didn't even develop.

Sorry, but I cannot take any of this seriously after MCC.

Fix that shit and then we can talk about your new game.

Nah we can talk about it now. There are already threads where people can go to bitch about MCC , Halo 5 has fuck all to do with that game.

 

[leeh]

But 343 didnt develop the old ones...

and didn't even port them over.

But still, they wrapped the package up and put their name to it. It should of been put through its paces a lot more.