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[plagiarize]

If you compare the lists, the number of Academy Award winners on the current HD-DVD list is much higher than the Bluray list. Yes, I am being a bit subjective, but I think the overall quality as far as critical acclaim of HD-DVD movies is without doubt superior (for now).

blah. the academy can go to hell for not giving Psycho or Anthony Perkins the nod in 1960.

The Thing is on HD-DVD. that's one film i will ALWAYS buy again whenever it comes on a better format, without any hesitation. it's the main thing that's got me tempted buy HD-DVD.

yes. i'd spend over $200 to get a better version of The Thing. you have to remember that i'm as much horror fan as i am a gamer. other films will follow. The Thing got me to buy a DVD player. it'll probably get me to buy an HD-DVD player too.

 

[AgentOtaku]

blah. the academy can go to hell for not giving Psycho or Anthony Perkins the nod in 1960.

The Thing is on HD-DVD. that's one film i will ALWAYS buy again whenever it comes on a better format, without any hesitation. it's the main thing that's got me tempted buy HD-DVD.

yes. i'd spend over $200 to get a better version of The Thing. you have to remember that i'm as much horror fan as i am a gamer. other films will follow. The Thing got me to buy a DVD player. it'll probably get me to buy an HD-DVD player too.

I TOTALLY ****ING FORGOT THE THING IS GOING HD-DVD.......glad I waited on the purchase

....one of my all time favorite horror movies. This and Army of Darkness pushed me over the edge

 

[Shogmaster]

You forgot the psu.

I'm fairly sure that the USB cable between the HD-DVD and the 360 can be more than 4 inches (as is the power cable to the brick from the 360). I think it just may be possible to not having to stack all of them together all the time.

Just a guess though.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I was on the fence. I'm starting to feel the temptation of picking one of these up and getting my feet wet as well.

Hah. I really wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the case for a lot of 360 owners (as I'm thinking the same thing). While it ends up costing the same as a premium 360, the fact that 360 owners are not in fact dropping all that money at once makes it a much more appealing prospect. After all, $200 is the sweet spot for a nice little holiday gift for yourself. Who knows if it can play the Installment Base tango with the PS3 in the Format Wars, but I wouldn't be surprised if sales of this peripheral are looked at very closely by every analyst, game journo, and whoever for quite some time.

 

[wasting]

its most likely smaller than the AD1.

im wondering about how it will connect, I know usb but can I use a USB hub? I really don't like a wire coming out of the front of my 360. (im only asking this cause the camera doesn't support the use of a hub, it says it must be directly connected to the system.)

 

[plagiarize]

I TOTALLY ****ING FORGOT THE THING IS GOING HD-DVD.......glad I waited on the purchase

....one of my all time favorite horror movies. This and Army of Darkness pushed me over the edge

The Thing is out next month, so it'll be on shelves when the 360 drive releases... as will Slither, which if you missed it sounds like it'll be right up your alley.

 

[DenogginizerOS]

blah. the academy can go to hell for not giving Psycho or Anthony Perkins the nod in 1960.

The Thing is on HD-DVD. that's one film i will ALWAYS buy again whenever it comes on a better format, without any hesitation. it's the main thing that's got me tempted buy HD-DVD.

yes. i'd spend over $200 to get a better version of The Thing. you have to remember that i'm as much horror fan as i am a gamer. other films will follow. The Thing got me to buy a DVD player. it'll probably get me to buy an HD-DVD player too.

I LOVE THE THING! When they are testing blood, I still crap my pants when the one test turns positive. The Thing, The Shining, Alien 1 and 2. All must-haves for the high-def era for me.

 

[storybook77]

Hah. I really wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the case for a lot of 360 owners (as I'm thinking the same thing). While it ends up costing the same as a premium 360, the fact that 360 owners are not in fact dropping all that money at once makes it a much more appealing prospect. After all, $200 is the sweet spot for a nice little holiday gift for yourself. Who knows if it can play the Installment Base tango with the PS3 in the Format Wars, but I wouldn't be surprised if sales of this peripheral are looked at very closely by every analyst, game journo, and whoever for quite some time.

My thing is that I have an older HDTV set that only has component connections to begin with. So if I can get a player that plays HD-DVD through component for a few years until I'm ready (and have the wife's consent) to get a new HDTV set with HDMI, then I'm happy with that.

 

[sangreal]

its most likely smaller than the AD1.

im wondering about how it will connect, I know usb but can I use a USB hub? I really don't like a wire coming out of the front of my 360. (im only asking this cause the camera doesn't support the use of a hub, it says it must be directly connected to the system.)

AD1? If you are talking about Toshiba's HD-A1 the 360 addon is wayy smaller as its just a drive + some local storage for bookmarks.

I dont know if you can use a Hub, but the drive has 2 USB ports on the back of it to make up for the port it takes up on the 360

 

[Shogmaster]

its most likely smaller than the AD1.

im wondering about how it will connect, I know usb but can I use a USB hub? I really don't like a wire coming out of the front of my 360. (im only asking this cause the camera doesn't support the use of a hub, it says it must be directly connected to the system.)

Just use the USB port on the back of the unit. And the add on has hub built in and an extra USB port as well, so you can move whatever USB device you plugged in the back of the 360 to the add on.

 

[AgentOtaku]

The Thing is out next month, so it'll be on shelves when the 360 drive releases... as will Slither, which if you missed it sounds like it'll be right up your alley.

..yeah looking forward to Slither also....ever see Night of the Creeps?...."thrill me"

 

[koam]

Where's the huge part?

Missing the PSU.

 

[wasting]

I know about the two USB ports on the back of the HD drive but then that brings up the question do those count as (directly connect to the system) USB ports?

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

I know about the two USB ports on the back of the HD drive but then that brings up the question do those count as (directly connect to the system) USB ports?

Yes. It works/doubles as a hub.

 

[supermackem]

haha the hda1 is a pc man its huge i have one. It makes the ps3 look small, but it rocks so i dont really care.:lol

 

[Here Be Dragons]

Missing the PSU.

Read the thread.

 

[turtle553]

Missing the PSU.

The HD-DVD drive has an internal power supply, just like the PS2 and original XBOX.

 

[Big Takeover]

The player is pretty huge man. If you combine the 360, power supply ad the hddvd player you've got yourself a HUGE BITCH!

You think that bitch is huge, put the 360 on top of a HD-A1, and you'd need to fork lift that sh*t into your entertainment center (no fault of the 360).

Good news about the startup time. I wonder if disk load times will show a big improvement too.

 

[Mmmkay]

The HD-DVD drive has an internal power supply, just like the PS2 and original XBOX.

No it doesn't. Heck, it's even mentioned in the damn OP.

 

[Stinkles]

That was aimed at Stinkles. Right before the show started someone asked him if he was in Barcelona, and he said, "I wish."

He asked if Mister Chief was in Barcelona...

 

[Stinkles]

The player is pretty huge man. If you combine the 360, power supply ad the hddvd player you've got yourself a HUGE BITCH!

No, it's surprisingly small, but thick. In real terms, it will likely be your smallest AV component by far. The PSU is tiny too - Laptop PSU sized. I mean you still have a huge bitch 360 somewhere, but the USB cable is long enough to let you keep the two pretty far apart.

 

[jax (old)]

The HD-dvd addon is so much of an afterthought that I'm surprised some of you are expressing interest. Plus the pricepoint is pretty bad. Its almost like Wii... $50 too much.

in the event:
dead x360 = no hd-dvd playback for you
or when hd-dvd player dies, no hd-dvd playback for you.

Peripherals that link to a system - not even a pc here.. is a bad idea. Plus what's the deal with 1080/hdmi?

 

[The Innocent X]

The HD-dvd addon is so much of an afterthought that I'm surprised some of you are expressing interest. Plus the pricepoint is pretty bad. Its almost like Wii... $50 too much.

in the event:
dead x360 = no hd-dvd playback for you
or when hd-dvd player dies, no hd-dvd playback for you.

Peripherals that link to a system - not even a pc here.. is a bad idea. Plus what's the deal with 1080/hdmi?

The pricepoint is perfect for anyone looking to buy a hd-dvd player. $400 for a standalone or half the price for this. In the UK, taht differential becomes even greater. This is a great way to get into hidef movies at a price that won`t have me kicking myself in the balls if HD-DVD eventually dies out.

Would I like it to be cheaper? Sure, but given the price is already subsidised I may as well wish for the moon.

And 1080P works fine over VGA, not that it is really required for movies. 1080i is fine for people with decent TVs with a good deinterlacer.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

The HD-dvd addon is so much of an afterthought that I'm surprised some of you are expressing interest. Plus the pricepoint is pretty bad. Its almost like Wii... $50 too much.

in the event:
dead x360 = no hd-dvd playback for you
or when hd-dvd player dies, no hd-dvd playback for you.

Peripherals that link to a system - not even a pc here.. is a bad idea. Plus what's the deal with 1080/hdmi?

Why are you surprised? My entire collection of 360 games cost more and is equally as worthless if the 360 dies. Not going to stop me from buying games. My CRT doesn't accept 1080p anyway. $200 flat this holiday is a very appealing gateway price to HD land this holiday.

 

[AgentOtaku]

....an decent upconverting player from Bestbuy will set you back $100+

....$100 more for a full on HD-DVD player is a pretty good deal

 

[Shogmaster]

....an decent upconverting player from Bestbuy will set you back $100+

....$100 more for a full on HD-DVD player is a pretty good deal

It's a no brainer for X360 owners that are interested in buying HD movies.

 

[AgentOtaku]

It's a no brainer for X360 owners that are interested in buying HD movies.

yep yep

 

[jarosh]

The HD-dvd addon is so much of an afterthought that I'm surprised some of you are expressing interest. Plus the pricepoint is pretty bad. Its almost like Wii... $50 too much.

see. i don't get this. AT ALL. i want hd-movies. i have a 360. the hd-dvd add-on is by far the cheapest solution. it's not an afterthought at all. it's not even up to discussion. if you want to watch hd-dvd movies and you have a 360 - this is the way to go. why should we NOT be interested?

 

[pr0cs]

Thanks for the impressions of the drive, good to hear that it appears to work well with the 360.

I'd like the drive but since I don't collect movies I know it'd just end up to be one of those many toys I have that I don't use. Some of my nutjob co-workers are very interested though.. you know, the people that spend $7000 on a projector, $3000 on theatre couches, paint their basement black and have over 500 DVD movies in their collection.

 

[Spinning Plates]

Anyone care to post a list of HD-DDVD titles available plus future release schedule please?

 

[wasting]

from http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119271

Updated Definitive Release List

Currently Available
16 Blocks (Warner) <- COMBO
Aeon Flux (Paramount)
Animal House (Universal) <- COMBO
Apollo 13 (Universal)
Assault on Precinct 13 (Universal)
ATL (Warner) <- COMBO
Best of Get Out! Vol. 1 (HDNet)
Best of Get Out! Vol. 2 (HDNet)
Best of HDNet World Report Vol. 1 (HDNet)
Best of HDNet World Report Vol. 2 (HDNet)
Blazing Saddles (Warner)
Bone Collector (Universal)
Bourne Supremacy (Universal)
Caddyshack (Warner)
Cinderella Man (Universal)
Chronicles of Riddick (Universal)
Constantine (Warner)
Doom (Universal)
Dukes of Hazzard (Warner)
Enter the Dragon (Warner)
Firewall (Warner) <- COMBO
Four Brothers (Paramount)
Friday Night Lights (Universal)
The Fugitive (Warner)
Full Metal Jacket (Warner)
Good Night, and Good Luck (Warner) <- COMBO
Goodfellas (Warner)
Guitarscape Planet (Concert Hot Spot)
Happy Gilmore (Universal)
Italian Job (Paramount)
Jarhead (Universal)
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (Warner) <- COMBO
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (Paramount)
Last Samurai (Warner)
Lethal Weapon (Warner)
The Manchurian Canidate (Paramount)
Million Dollar Baby (Warner)
Perfect Storm (Warner)
Phantom of the Opera (Warner)
Pitch Black (Universal)
Ray (Universal)
Rumor Has It (Warner) <- COMBO
Rundown (Universal)
Sahara (Paramount)
The Searchers (Warner)
Serenity (Universal)
Sky Captain and the World of Tommorow (Paramount)
Sleepy Hollow (Paramount)
Spy Game (Universal)
Swordfish (Warner)
Syriana (Warner)
Training Day (Warner)
U-571 (Universal)
U2: Rattle and Hum (Paramount)
Unforgiven (Warner)
Unleashed (Universal) <- COMBO
Van Helsing (Universal)
View From Space With Heavenly Music (Concert Hot Spot)
We Were Soldiers (Paramount)
World Extreme Cagefighting: Unfinished Business 2 (HDNet)

9/12/2006
Galaxina (BCI)
House of Wax (Warner)
Lethal Weapon 2 (Warner)
Red Dragon (Universal)
Seabiscuit (Universal)
Space Cowboys (Warner)
That’s the Way of the World (BCI)
Traffic (Universal)
Troy (Warner)

9/19/2006
Backdraft (Universal)
9/26/2006[/b]
2 Fast 2 Furious (Universal)
Adventures of Robin Hood (Warner)
Dazed and Confused (Universal) <- COMBO
Dirty Dozen (Warner)
End of Days (Universal)
The Fast and the Furious (Universal)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (Universal)
Grand Prix (Warner)
HDScape Exotic Saltwater Aquarium (Ryko) <- COMBO
Lakehouse (Warner) <- COMBO
Land of the Dead, George A. Romero's (Universal) <- COMBO
Night of the Werewolf, The (BCI)
Sister Street Fighter (BCI)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Warner)
Tokyo Drift, The Fast and the Furious (Universal) <- COMBO
Vengeance of the Zombies (BCI)


10/3/2006
The New Orleans Concert (Concert Hot Spot) <- COMBO
The Pat Metheny Group: The Way Up (Eagle Rock)

10/10/2006
Army of Darkness (Universal) <- COMBO
Batman Begins (Warner)
Fast Times at Ridgemont High (Universal) <- COMBO
The Polar Express (Warner)
Waist Deep <- COMBO

10/17/2006
The Breakup (Universal) <- COMBO

10/24/2006
12 Monkeys (Universal)
Interpreter (Universal)
Out of Sight (Universal)
Slither (Universal) <- COMBO
Spartacus (Universal)
The Thing (Universal) <- COMBO

10/30/2006
Mission: Impossible - Ultimate Missions Collection (Paramount)
Mission: Impossible 3 (Paramount)

11/7/2006
Nacho Libre (Paramount)
Reds (Paramount)
Sopranos Season 6, Part 1 (HBO)

11/14/2006
Barry Manilow: Manilow Live! (Image)
Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire: Live at the Greek (Image)
Cream- Live at the Royal Albert Hall (Rhino)
The Eagles - Live In Melbourne (Rhino)
Heart: Alive in Seattle (Image)
Hulk (Universal)
James Taylor: A MusiCares Person of the Year Tribute (Rhino)
King Kong (Universal)
Waterworld (Universal)

11/28/06
Clerks 2 (Weinstein Co.)
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal) <- COMBO
You, Me, and Dupree (Universal)

12/5/2006
Derailed (Weinstein Co.)
Poseidon (Warner)
Scary Movie 4 (Weinstein Co.)
Wolf Creek (Weinstein Co.)

12/12/2006
DOA: Dead or Alive (Weinstein Co.)

12/26/2006
Matador (Weinstein Co.)
Pulse (Weinstein Co.)


Universal - 29.98 Catalog, 34.98 COMBO Catalog, 39.98 COMBO New Release
Warner - 28.99 Catalog, 34.99 New Release, 39.99 COMBO New Release
Paramount - 29.98 List
Concert Hot Spot - 29.98 List
BCI - 24.98 List
HDNet - 14.95 List (only available on hd.net)
HBO - 129.95 Season Release
Eagle Rock Entertainment - 24.98 List
Image Entertainment - 24.99 List
Ryko - 29.95 List



Old threads:

Spring launch:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107912

Summer:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95490

 

[GashPrex]

I don't think I can resist a cheap HDDVD player

Just don't like the uncertainity in the format wars - but even if HD-DVD loses its not as if the movies already bought will just stop playing - and Blu ray will probably be cheap by then(or I'll have a PS3)

 

[Spinning Plates]

Cheers Wasting. I just found a similar list on HTF. Here's the TBA's....

TBA

The 40-Year-Old Virgin (Universal)
2001: A Space Odyssey (Warner)
Above the Law (Warner)
Alexander (Warner)
American Pie (Universal)
Angels in America (HBO)
An American Werewolf in London (Universal)
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery (New Line)
Awake (Weinstein Co.)
Band of Brothers (HBO)
Battlestar Glactica (Universal)
Bikini Destinations (Magnolia)
The Black Dahlia (Universal)
Black Rain (Paramount)
Blade (New Line)
Blade Runner (Warner)
The Blues Brothers (Universal)
Braveheart (Paramount)
The Breakfast Club (Universal)
Breaking and Entering (Weinstein Co.)
Bubble (Magnolia)
Casino (Universal)
Catwoman (Warner)
A Clockwork Orange (Warner)
Coach Carter (Paramount)
Conan the Barbarian (Universal)
Contact (Warner)
Dante's Peak (Universal)
Dark City (New Line)
Deadwood: Season One (HBO)
Decameron (Weinstein Co.)
The Deer Hunter (Universal)
Derailed (Weinstein Co.)
The Dirty Harry Collection (Warner)
Dune (1985) (Universal)
Elizabethtown (Paramount)
Eraser (Warner)
Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (Magnolia)
Executive Decision (Warner)
Eyes Wide Shut (Warner)
Field of Dreams (Universal)
Final Destination (New Line)
Forbidden Planet (Warner)
Forrest Gump (Paramount)
Friday (New Line)
Friends: Season One (Warner)
From the Earth to the Moon (HBO)
Ghost (Paramount)
Gothika (Warner)
Grease (Paramount)
The Green Mile (Warner)
Grind House (Weinstein Co.)
Hard to Kill (Warner)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (Warner)
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (Warner)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (Warner)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (Warner)
How the Grinch Stole Christmas (Universal)
Idlewild (Universal)
Killshot (Weinstein Co.)
Last Legion (Weinstein Co.)
The Libertine (Weinstein Co.)
The Lord of the Rings Trilogy (New Line)
Lucky Number Slevin (Weinstein Co.)
The Maltese Falcon (Warner)
The Mask (New Line)
The Matador (Weinstein Co.)
The Matrix (Warner)
The Matrix Reloaded (Warner)
The Matrix Revolutions (Warner)
Maverick (Warner)
Meet the Parents (Universal)
Miami Vice 2006 (Universal)
Mrs. Henderson Presents (Weinstein Co.)
The Mummy (Universal)
The Music Man (Warner)
Mutiny on the Bounty (Warner)
Mystic River (Warner)
Next of Kin (Warner)
North by Northwest (Warner)
Ocean's Eleven (Warner)
Ocean's Twelve (Warner)
Passenger 57 (Warner)
Passion of the Clerks (Weinstein Co.)
The Player (New Line)
Pulse (Weinstein Co.)
Red Planet (Warner)
Rush Hour (New Line)
Save the Last Dance (Paramount)
Scary Movie 4 (Weinstein Co.)
School of Rock (Paramount)
School for Scoundrels (Weinstein Co.)
The Scoop (Universal)
The Scorpian King (Universal)
Se7en (New Line)
The Shawshank Redemption (Warner)
The Shining (1980) (Warner)
Shuttle Discovery's Historic Mission (Magnolia)
Sin City 2 (Weinstein Co.)
Soldier (Warner)
The Sopranos: Season One (HBO)
The Ultimate Star Trek Movie Collection (Paramount)
Spawn (New Line)
Spongebob Squarepants: The Movie (Paramount)
Star Trek: First Contact (Paramount)
Superman: Ultimate Collector's Edition (Warner)
TransAmerica (Weinstein Co.)
Twister (Warner)
Under Siege (Warner)
U.S. Marshals (Warner)
Vanilla Sky (Paramount)
Vengeance of the Zombies (BCI)
The War Within (Magnolia)
Wild Wild West (Warner)
Wolf Creek (Weinstein Co.)
Young Hannibal (Weinstein Co.)

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

from http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119271

Things start picking up in October. If they can announce some of that sweet sweet Hitchcock back catalogue (Universal, you sweet sweet exclusive bastards), I'm sold.

ETA: Se7en could be my killer app for this. Depending on whether or not it looks Stunning or just Pants-Shittingly Awesome.

 

[Big Takeover]

Thanks for the impressions of the drive, good to hear that it appears to work well with the 360.

I'd like the drive but since I don't collect movies I know it'd just end up to be one of those many toys I have that I don't use. Some of my nutjob co-workers are very interested though.. you know, the people that spend $7000 on a projector, $3000 on theatre couches, paint their basement black and have over 500 DVD movies in their collection.

If you are in the US, I think it's worth mentioning that Netflix offers both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. You don't have to be a "nutjob" to start transitioning to these high capacity formats.

 

[Alcibiades]

that list is outdated, some additions:

11/14/2006
Accepted (Universal) <- COMBO

11/28/2006
Superman (Warner)
Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (Warner)
Superman Returns (Warner) <- COMBO

PLUS, all the BCI titles have been delayed

 

[jarosh]

hmm... what about - *gasp* - europe?

 

[AgentOtaku]

If you are in the US, I think it's worth mentioning that Netflix offers both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. You don't have to be a "nutjob" to start transitioning to these high capacity formats.

yep

 

[plagiarize]

..yeah looking forward to Slither also....ever see Night of the Creeps?...."thrill me"

seen it?

i've met Tom Atkins.

 

[pr0cs]

If you are in the US, I think it's worth mentioning that Netflix offers both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. You don't have to be a "nutjob" to start transitioning to these high capacity formats.

I don't live in the USA but there are online rental places in my country. I just don't have time or the money to start collecting DVDs what with my serious video game addiction problems. I have a hard enough time to sneak a new game every month past my wife let alone 2-3 movies as well.

For people who are into the home theatre collection and have or are thinking of getting a 360 the HD-DVD drive is a no-brainer.

 

[Geoff9920]

So when the units on, what's running? 360 psu, 360 fans, & the hd-dvd player itself?

 

[pr0cs]

So when the units on, what's running? 360 psu, 360 fans, & the hd-dvd player itself?

360 PSU, HD-DVD PSU (which is probably a silent AC/DC brick), 360 fans and the HD-DVD drive (which by the sounds of things is relatively quiet)

 

[Xenon]

....an decent upconverting player from Bestbuy will set you back $100+

Does this drive upconvert DVDs to 720p/1080i?

 

[Geoff9920]

Thanks pr0cs.


It's tempting to be sure, but not being able to take advantage of the new audio codecs would suck.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Which is behind my tv and is never seen? Why would anyone care how big a power supply is?

Troll more, Bud.

Dude, the shit is huge. I own a 360.

 

[plagiarize]

Does this drive upconvert DVDs to 720p/1080i?

only via VGA.

 

[gkryhewy]

Does this drive upconvert DVDs to 720p/1080i?

Only over VGA, I think. ::shakes fist::

 

[rjcc]

only via VGA.

the 360 upconverts via vga up to 1080p (post fall-update) with or without this drive. (I know you weren't saying differently, I'm responding more to the original question).

 

[Kung Fu Jedi]

Dude, the shit is huge. I own a 360.

Yep. So do I. And I haven't seen my power supply since the day I took the 360 out of the box and hooked it all up.

 

[Alcibiades]

Xbox.com is reporting November 7th for Europe it seems...

To conclude this exhilarating roundup of the X06 bombshells we can confirm that the hugely anticipated HD DVD player will launch on November 7 – just a few short weeks away. The player will come bundled with a Universal Media Remote and, for a limited time only, a copy of Peter Jackson’s amazing King Kong, also in HD DVD format. All for just €199.99, or a mere £129.99 in the UK.