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3DS and Switch. It's hard to go back.

Quality over graphics, and the 3DS still has a lot of the former.

Hell, I like Dwarf Fortress and visual novels, and both don't need fancy graphics to work. I also play retro consoles / games and late 90s PC games.
 
TheMoon said:
anyone answering yes please also state if you ever play retro games on older systems or not.
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The issue I have with this statement is that retro games were limited by the hardware that was out at the time, but here we have 2 portable systems made by the same company, one clearly better, and they are still making games for the inferior machine! I get why (install base), but its gonna be frustrating to pick up Fire Emblem echoes and know that I could've played it day and date on a better machine.
 
NolbertoS said:
What prime deal do we get for buying a Switch??
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PRIME members had first dibs on a Amazon Switch shipment a few weeks ago. Lasted pretty long comparatively. No bundles or anything. Just MSRP.

Switch is a hot item so no one is cutting the price anytime soon.
 
The Switch is too large for me to take everywhere. Unless I'm expecting some 2 player action, it stays home.
It's also just a little too long going from left to right. It's a very oblong tablet.

3DS is compact, durable, and folds up easily to fit in my pocket or anywhere else.
It still has plenty of good games that I haven't finished yet (Link Between Worlds is the Zelda game we deserve) and at the moment still more good games to play than Switch.


My feelings my change later, but I see the Switch like a tablet or portable TV, or maybe just a really light console like the GameCube or NES Classic.
 
The 3DS hardware has always been bad, but yeah in 2017 with so many things competing for my time a game being on that ancient device is a good excuse to spend my time elsewhere. But the software still coming out for the 3DS isn't super compelling anyway, well other than a Fire Emblem game.
 
I don't think there is any going back. Switch has set the precedent now that handhelds going forward need to allow for TV play with a separate controller. For the better.

Nintendo will have to show some love to 3DS owners for the next year or so until a majority of the audience has moved to Switch, but I think Switch and things like it are the future for dedicated systems that can be portable.
 
Beartruck said:
The issue I have with this statement is that retro games were limited by the hardware that was out at the time, but here we have 2 portable systems made by the same company, one clearly better, and they are still making games for the inferior machine! I get why (install base), but its gonna be frustrating to pick up Fire Emblem echoes and know that I could've played it day and date on a better machine.
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By that logic FE Switch could release next to Echoes.
 
PtM said:
By that logic FE Switch could release next to Echoes.
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And it will look horrible. The Awakening engine was fine for 3DS, but is so outdated today. I will buy Echoes anyway, so I know it's fine to wait a little more for a Fire Emblem in a new engine.
 
Yes but not in terms of graphics. The screen resolution bothered me.

I've never been a 1080p60FPS kinda guy, but now I can't stand anything less than 720P.

Also dual screen, I'm so glad that's gone.
 
3DS is essentially a portable PS2. i don't want to impugn the trickery some devs are able to pull off with it (DQXI looks amazing for example) but it's only going to be harder going back to it in 2017 unless it's basically all you're playing
 
Eh no. In fact, after finishing BotW, I returned to my 3DS for continue playing Hyrule Warriors Legends. And even though I adore the larger screen on the Switch, and better control scheme on handheld mode, I'm still having a blast with my N3DS.
 
Beartruck said:
The issue I have with this statement is that retro games were limited by the hardware that was out at the time, but here we have 2 portable systems made by the same company, one clearly better, and they are still making games for the inferior machine! I get why (install base), but its gonna be frustrating to pick up Fire Emblem echoes and know that I could've played it day and date on a better machine.
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The point is, Switch is not better than 3DS if you care for portability, affordability and 3D. The low resolution is also a plus for 2D games as you get natural scanlines.
 
PtM said:
By that logic FE Switch could release next to Echoes.
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How so? I don't want a massive overhaul of echoes' visuals. You could put it on switch and bump the resolution from 240p to 720p with not much extra work.

Feffe said:
The point is, Switch is not better than 3DS if you care for portability, affordability and 3D. The low resolution is also a plus for 2D games as you get natural scanlines.
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What am I even reading here? The shitty screen is actually great because scanlines? You know why Odin Sphere Leithrasir doesn't have a scanline filter? Because scanlines are outdated. Old games were built around them. Modern games are not.
 
Pokémon is still as awesome as ever even if I've gotten used to Switch's beautiful screen. Currently at the final stretch of Alpha Saphire and then Sun is waiting. Can't wait to play the next game on Switch but I have no issues playing the current ones on N3DSXL.
 
After finishing Breath of the Wild, I got a case of Fire Emblem fever (partly from playing FE Heroes the past couple months). Now I'm making my way through FE: Shadow Dragon on my 3DS.

I'm not buying any more 3DS games, though.
 
I liked my 3DS and XL, but I could rarely conjure up the will to play them.

The Switch is such a great piece of hardware. Games that I loved, but didn't feel like completing on other systems (e.g. Shovel Knight on 3DS) I just can't stop playing on the Switch. I haven't been this excited to just play games on a system since... ever, I think. Maybe since the DS. I really feel like the Switch has revitalized my interest in gaming.

A huge part of why it was revitalized is because of how versatile the Switch is. I played Zelda on the TV with the Pro Controller, then I would undock and remove the Joy-Cons, and suddenly it was a 7" tablet that I could inconspicuously carry on the train and play Voez with the touch screen. It was insane to think that the same system was playing both games. Meanwhile, with the 3DS I was often wishing for a way to play its games on TV. (The Switch's screen being so big doesn't give me this feeling as much.)

So basically, I don't think I can go back, lol. It's a shame, because there are so many games on 3DS that I love, but don't think I'll play again... When 3DS emulation improves, I'll definitely replay some games on my TV (namely the Kirby games), but beyond that, I think my 3DS will mostly be collecting dust.
 
It is pretty much impossible to go back to other handhelds after playing Vita OLED/Switch.

Both those consoles have very good screens. What I like the most about them is that there is no noticeable ghosting : everything is so smooth and instantaneous.

3DS screens are way too bad (at least for me). I could not continue playing on 3DS, so I decided to sell it 2 or 3 years ago : never regretted it.
 
I can see how the OP never had a PSP during DS days and netiher a Vita.

I have no issues whatsoever to play a DS, PSP or 3DS game.
 
Beartruck said:
How so? I don't want a massive overhaul of echoes' visuals. You could put it on switch and bump the resolution from 240p to 720p with not much extra work.



What am I even reading here? The shitty screen is actually great because scanlines? You know why Odin Sphere Leithrasir doesn't have a scanline filter? Because scanlines are outdated. Old games were built around them. Modern games are not.
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I play a lot of Snes games with my 3ds so yes, it's a small plus. I also like the retro feel they give to games like Shovel Knights.
I understand that's something good for you very small niche tought.
 
The 3DS had crap hardware even when it first came out. I bought one on its initial release, and I was disappointed after the first half hour.
 
Khrno said:
I can see how the OP never had a PSP during DS days and netiher a Vita.

I have no issues whatsoever to play a DS, PSP or 3DS game.
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I had a PSP and a Go. I also own a Vita 1000.

Again, it's not just fidelity but ergonomics, bigger screen and build quality.
 
I would not go quite that far, but it definitely feels like a dated system to me. My New XL very much feels old now. Screen on the Switch is so much better. More modern system all around. A worthy successor to the 3DS. Hell, I wish 3DS games like Hey Pikmin were coming to the Switch, among others.
 
entremet said:
Yeah. It's not just the graphical leap, but the build quality of the Switch is much higher.

I still think Nintendo's 8th generation industrial designs were poor. Seventh generation, Wii and DS (at least starting with the DSLite) were great feeling and looking machines in terms of their design.

Wii U/OG 3DS were huge regressions.
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This. Ugly, poorly built, and cheap-feeling.
 
DSi to 3DS is the worst hardware transition of all time.
New 3DS isn't badly designed, but it's not a patch on the i.
Resolution doesn't bother me, I always thought 3DS games looked perfectly acceptable (in 3D mode only, looks way worse with the slider down)
 
RoninChaos said:
I accept the 3ds for what it is but it reminds me a bit of the Wii in that the visuals are held back tremendously. I really wish Nintendo made a better decision on the screens.
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Excessive penny-pinching and cutting corners to save money in the short-term, which were hallmarks of Iwata's Nintendo, rarely translate to the favorable outcomes a company thinks such practices will.
 
SuperBanana said:
Guess I need to post this again since there are some people who seem to have already forgotten after 2 page. Wow, how the mind slips!

"Allegedly"

Opening admitting to sexually assaulting someone(then banning anyone who called him out for it)
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Posting revenge porn with their real full names then another admin(a now jailed pedophile) printed the photos and jacked off over them and sent it to the boyfriend.
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You're right, how can we even know if he's guilty or not? HMMMM

Also:
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What really bothers me is the blurriness, especially on text. It's like everything runs on a different resolution than the screen itself. I considered "downgrading" from a XL to a regular just to see if a smaller screen would help.

I don't think I even own another gadget with a similar screen, unless I go dig an old flip phone. Makes it hard to go back to the 3DS no matter where you're coming from nowadays.
 
BTW, can someone explain to me why some people are against using cases?

Personally, I don't get it. Even with 3DS, I always used a case. To me, Nintendo handhelds stop being a true pocket system after the GBA SP.

Plus, who has room in their pocket in this day and age with having to carry a smartphone?

IDK, to me, buying and using a case is pretty easy/convenient, and saves me the worry of whether or not my system will be scratched/damaged.
 
matrix-cat said:
Not really. The 3DS is a legit portable system, whereas the Switch is too large, fragile, expensive and cumbersome to really fill the same niche. The thing cost almost $500 Australian, so I really don't see myself ever leaving the house with it. I don't really really mind the lower quality screen, since I'm usually playing stuff like Picross or an Ace Attorney game anyway.
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I think it has been proven that the switch is the most durable portable system yet. That also includes phones. Plastic screen may be prone to scratching but with a screen protector for that issue, you are way less at risk of the screen shattering when dropping. I'd take plastic for durability due to carrying it in a bag when I go off.
 
TBH it was hard to look at the 3DS 5 years ago with the Vita being out.

I'm not surprised more people are finally feeling that way with the switch too.
 
I own and still play old systems and jump back and forth between hardware quite often, but I'm definitely still on my Switch honeymoon. Can't feel like any other platform right now.
 
Protome said:
Given how garbage the 3DS hardware is, it was hard to go back from it from the Vita, never mind the Switch.
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Exactly. 3DS hardware was always trash (though I love the 3D). I just always thought "man these games are awesome but I wish I could play them on the Vita." Like, badly.
 
It's just a different experience. I still love my 3DS and have quite a few games that I need to beat on it and some good stuff to look forward to (Fire Emblem, Pikmin).
 
I had a switch for a few weeks and I still prefer my 3DS over it. Ended up returning the switch. So no I don't find it hard to go back at all.

I've got all those 3DS games plus over 100 games from multiple nintendo consoles and handhelds that I've converted from my cartridges into virtual console titles.

While people are salivating about that seiken densetsu collection on Switch I've had it on my 3DS already for ages.
 
Beartruck said:
The issue I have with this statement is that retro games were limited by the hardware that was out at the time, but here we have 2 portable systems made by the same company, one clearly better, and they are still making games for the inferior machine! I get why (install base), but its gonna be frustrating to pick up Fire Emblem echoes and know that I could've played it day and date on a better machine.
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That's not true at all. It most certainly wouldn't be out now in Japan. They don't have an engine yet on Switch for FE, that's why FE isn't out until next year.
 
I found that the only thing harder to get back to was the low resolution screen. Graphic fidelity doesn't seem to bother me too much I think
 
Ogawa-san said:
What really bothers me is the blurriness, especially on text. It's like everything runs on a different resolution than the screen itself. I considered "downgrading" from a XL to a regular just to see if a smaller screen would help.

I don't think I even own another gadget with a similar screen, unless I go dig an old flip phone. Makes it hard to go back to the 3DS no matter where you're coming from nowadays.
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It doesn't help much. I use a normal 3DS and even on the small screen the resolution is horrible. No wonder the PPi is also very low for todays standards, it's the same as the original Gameboy 30 years ago I think...
 
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