7DollarHagane
Banned
I wish I had a ton of copies of this to flip
You need a cart of the game with the region that matches the region of your 3DS.
This is a fantastic exploit that enables HOMEBREW ONLY, NO PIRACY.
And no, I don't think it will affect sales of VC sales by much, if at all. If you want to pirate those you can already play them in every other device you own. Hell, at least this puts a fire under Nintendo's asses and maybe they will think of doing proper good emulation on their VC titles instead of the absolute minimum required.
It isn't if you take backups of the games yourself.
I'm actually not familiar enough with those devices to know how easily available the backup devices are, but I'd be killing for a half decent SNES emulator.
Sorry if it has been asked already but how exactly is Cubic Ninja a homebrew door?
I mean how does it work? Access to memory/ SD card, etc?
What are the chances this will lead to another more easily available method? Maybe something like the letterbomb loader for wii.
Actually, if Nintendo *really* wanted to could patch the 3DS firmware itself to "patch" the game during load and close the exploit. But since the game exists in limited quantities, they might not even bother.
The simple fact that they can't.
- It's an out of print title
- Due to the way the 3DS OS works, it's unpatchable without users being able to simply delete the patch afterwards
- The development team who made it went out of business in 2011 - who's going to develop a patch?
- It's a physical cart and uses an exploit tied to a system unique for that game - not an exploit in the 3DS OS itself
- It doesn't need to install anything to the 3DS OS at all. Even if Nintendo restricted stuff from being installed in the 3DS system menu itself, you would still be able to run homebrew and region free by booting up Cubic Ninja first - there's no preventing that
Actually, if Nintendo *really* wanted to could patch the 3DS firmware itself to "patch" the game during load and close the exploit. But since the game exists in limited quantities, they might not even bother.
They would patch the game, but retain whatever feature is in it that allows it to make custom levels and trade them via QR code? I'm sure this is possible in a hypothetical, anything is possible sense...but is it actually possible to both maintain the advertised full retail functionality that both users (to buy and own the physical release) and Ubisoft (to publish, certify and gain official physical/digital retail license to distribute) paid for, and patch the hole on load?
If there was a way to do that without compromising the game in advertised/paid functionality, that'd definitely be the way to do it.
It's not that simple. 3DS is no Wii, and even on Wii I think patching Smash Stack is possible. On 3DS all games supposedly run under an actual, if minimal, operating system, so they can actually patch the behavior of the game to a certain degree by changing code on their side.The simple fact that they can't.
- Due to the way the 3DS OS works, it's unpatchable without users being able to simply delete the patch afterwards
- The development team who made it went out of business in 2011 - who's going to develop a patch?
- It's a physical cart and uses an exploit tied to a system unique for that game - not an exploit in the 3DS OS itself
- It doesn't need to install anything to the 3DS OS at all. Even if Nintendo restricted stuff from being installed in the 3DS system menu itself, you would still be able to run homebrew and region free by booting up Cubic Ninja first - there's no preventing that
I guess it was a shock to him...https://twitter.com/smealum/status/534771433373585409 said:sooo, i'd been warned about this but damn i did not expect the game's price to increase this fast. i thought it'd be weeks, not hours.
my gamestop couldnt fulfill my hold order, I bet someone else got in on it
It has been possible to run unsigned code using the Gateway flashcard for several months already. You can even update the 3DS using a virtual NAND on the SD card, but you need FW 4.5 for the initial exploit. It won't help much in exploiting a firmware without known exploits.
It does. There are flash cards that work with older versions of the 3DS firmware.Last I ever checked, 3DS does not have flash karts for the 3DS software.
You're also entirely missing the point of what emulators will do to virtual console sales.
Ha, hilarious that this random game is the key. Will be funny to watch the eBay price rise.
So Nintendo won't be affected in a meaningful way, yet they'll also have pressure put on them to improve their emulation offerings? I don't think you can have both.
Urg, the amazon seller has mysteriously e-mailed me telling me they had the "stock levels wrong" and had to cancel.
Then relisted at a much higher price.
Oh well, dog eat dog world.
Sounds similar to the email I got.
unfinished homebrew software and some buggy emulators.
I bet the game will come down in price in a few weeks time.
A lot of people will be very surprised when the exploit releases and they realize this doesnt give them piracy, no way all these people buying this cart are doing it for unfinished homebrew software and some buggy emulators.
I bet the game will come down in price in a few weeks time.
Can we have a moment of silence for this? I really hope Nintendo goes with the flow on this one, and doesn't come back with an iron shield. I think they are making money off of this
And look at the comparison you posted - do you honestly expect me to play the shoddy VC version when I can play my copy with full SGB colour and borders?
No piracy? Uh...
Are you accusing me of piracy? I ripped that game using a transfer pak and my everdrive 64.
And look at the comparison you posted - do you honestly expect me to play the shoddy VC version when I can play my copy with full SGB colour and borders?
This has been covered before: Emulation using your own backups isn't piracy.
Are you accusing me of piracy? I ripped that game using a transfer pak and my everdrive 64.
And look at the comparison you posted - do you honestly expect me to play the shoddy VC version when I can play my copy with full SGB colour and borders?
I don't care whether or not you ripped the game. Obviously you aren't playing that on the 3DS either because the exploit hasn't been released yet.
The post said "no piracy." With this exploit, you are able to load up a GB ROM on the 3DS to play a game that you are able to legitimately buy on the eShop. That's piracy. You can't spin that.
I don't care whether it's full color or not either. The exploit would just as easily allow you to load up the shitty black and white version too. Either way, it already enables piracy, no matter how minor. Not really arguable.
If you already have a Gateway and a Gateway compatible 3DS what is the benefit of this new exploit?
You need a cart of the game with the region that matches the region of your 3DS.
This is a fantastic exploit that enables HOMEBREW ONLY, NO PIRACY. YET
Shh, not sure if you are allowed to talk about this here on GAF. There isn't one afaik, there'll probably be a way to install the "official" homebrew channel without the game. You can run homebrews already if you got both.If you already have x what is the benefit of this new exploit?
That would be amazing lolNow imagine if Watch Dogs was the exploit for the WiiU Homebrew.
I don't care whether or not you ripped the game. Obviously you aren't playing that on the 3DS either because the exploit hasn't been released yet.
The post said "no piracy." With this exploit, anyone is able to load up a GB ROM on the 3DS to play a game that you can legitimately buy on the eShop. That's piracy. You can't spin that.
I don't care whether it's full color or not either. The exploit would just as easily allow you to load up the shitty black and white version too. Either way, it already enables piracy, no matter how minor. Not really arguable.
Corrected that for you.
As soon as someone cracks a system for homebrew, the efforts to turn that into an avenue for piracy begin. While the 3DS is nowhere near cracked wide open by this, it is one step closer to opening the system up to wider-scale piracy.
Nothing. It's just a cheaper option (won't be for long though!), is likely harder to patch, but has fewer capabilities (this exploit will never play dumped games like Gateway can, but it's possible that a different exploit could use the same game in the future).If you already have a Gateway and a Gateway compatible 3DS what is the benefit of this new exploit?
And I don't really see how the exploit could be usable for region free when it can't be used for launching pirated 3DS ROMs. Either it can change the restrictions on the way the system launches games or it can't. It's hard to see how it could do one but not the other.
This has been covered before: Emulation using your own backups isn't piracy.
Ordered the game from Gameseek (via Play.com) this morning before leaving for work, bad decision in the end, they decided to cancel and say they never had stock of it in the first place (despite having 22 on their website this morning). A company to avoid in the future.