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3DS surpasses Gamecube lifetime sales
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The Horror the horror
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Funny how appreciated the GC is around here these days. Back in its heyday, the console was everyone's punchline and often regarded as the worst Nintendo console ever introduced.
Turned out to be one of Nintendo's best console.
Like I said if the Wii U is a lot game like then the GameCube then I consider it a success.
grimshawish
Banned
In the new year we should have a big Gaf Plays Gamecube.
New game a month; would give me an excuse to start ordering some off ebay
I think everyone wants the next gamecube ASAP; it was awesome, heres hoping the Wii U fits
Never again though will the value to quality be so unbelievably good.
IrishNinja
Member
same here - like the dreamcast, the GC was too good for many of you people!
kinda explains why finding a component cable's been such a bitch i guess
Yep, GC was completely shat on.
Most of the time it got the worst version of third party ports. There was the cellda ordeal and pacman vs e3. Lots of negative going around yet it had a lot of the best games that generation.
Like I said if the Wii U is a lot game like then the GameCube then I consider it a success.
Wii u is worse off than GameCube was. It's not going to get 3rd party ports, outside of EAD Nintendo has gotten lazy, their games have been poor and the console is seen negatively out of the gate. Nintendo could turn it around but well have to wait and see.
Gotta love how the internet works lol
sixteen-bit
Member
Couldn't be worse than n64
???...
Admittedly it could still qualify as Nintendo's worst console anyway... Thing is, if all their consoles are great then the worst is merely "pretty good" (well, there's the Virtual Boy, but that's in between due to how it isn't THAT portable and if you say the GC's worse than that you're insane). Though I think the Wii had fewer, less impressive jumps despite the earlier promise of motion tech: the NES was so appealing for introducing so much PERIOD, the Super NES was a huge jump that allowed far more to be done with games period, the N64 was somewhat similar the NES in that the new hardware that could do good 3D allowed for fresh ideas all over again, and the GC was like the SNES in that it iterated on it, though the jump wasn't as impressive from a gameplay angle even though the visuals absolutely were.
Actually, that seems to be something of a habit with Nintendo consoles: new potential, then refinement in the successor. Wii U's kind of in the middle though, it IS stronger hardware that you can use with Wii Remotes and Nunchuk, and it sounds like the Game Pad actually has their most sophisticated motion sensing, but the importance of the Wii Remote and motion sensing period are heavily downplayed in favor of something new entirely, the screen on the controller. I guess being the Wii U means it's in a sense more iterative though, trying to add new casual appeal while winning back the hardcore. And none of this stuff is particularly relevant to handhelds for Nintendo.
Actually, that seems to be something of a habit with Nintendo consoles: new potential, then refinement in the successor. Wii U's kind of in the middle though, it IS stronger hardware that you can use with Wii Remotes and Nunchuk, and it sounds like the Game Pad actually has their most sophisticated motion sensing, but the importance of the Wii Remote and motion sensing period are heavily downplayed in favor of something new entirely, the screen on the controller. I guess being the Wii U means it's in a sense more iterative though, trying to add new casual appeal while winning back the hardcore. And none of this stuff is particularly relevant to handhelds for Nintendo.
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Xenoblade Chronicles shits on every RPG since Skies of Arcadia and Soma Bringer was pretty awesome as well; I have no idea what you are on about.
Part of the Nintendo cycle
Back in the Cube days everyone started to appreciate the N64.
I also heard DKCR is pretty good too
Chet Rippo
Member
Not really when you're comparing anything to Assault or Adventures.
playingwithfire
Member
On man I loved the Gamecube so hard. Screw all you guys who didn't buy it. It deserved so much better.
Dunno if I'd got that far (Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne!), but it IS one of the best JRPGs in over a decade and possibly one of the top 5 to have hit a Nintendo platform (though most of a top RPGs-on-Nintendo list would come from either SNES or DS anyway).
Diddy Kong
Banned
Congrats Ninty
On the topic of which console had the best 1 and a half year launch, well...
Smash Bros Melee alone takes a steaming pile of elephant turds over anything the 3DS has released so far. And that's not mentioning Metroid Prime which was the game of the generation. And screw it Mario Sunshine is still a great game. It also had 3 new IPS in this time with Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin. It also had some top quality 3rd party games like Monkey Ball and Star wars rogue squadron 2. In the next few months there were the amazing Wind Waker and F-zero GX.
The gamecube was an amazing, amazing system for about the first 3 or so years, had some incredible looking games graphically (how Nintendo made a profit off a beast like gamecube while makes a loss of WiiU is beyond my comprehension). It's just a shame that Nintendo's output decreased dramatically after those first 3 years and the only thing we really got was RE4. That's where I think the 3ds do better, I think it will last longer and have ongoing support whereas Nintendo just gave up on the gamecube.
So far on 3DS I've enjoyed Super Mario 3d Land although I have a hard time calling it a classic, had fun with a couple of ports (although I give no credit for porting classic games and reselling them), NSMB2 is symptomatic of a series that has no ambition. Mario Kart 7 is just, well.. Mario Kart is okay and I've never liked it as a handheld series. (local battle mode and grand prix is the only reason I play it) I still have to play Uprising though which GAF has given a lot of praise.
Smash Bros Melee alone takes a steaming pile of elephant turds over anything the 3DS has released so far. And that's not mentioning Metroid Prime which was the game of the generation. And screw it Mario Sunshine is still a great game. It also had 3 new IPS in this time with Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion and Pikmin. It also had some top quality 3rd party games like Monkey Ball and Star wars rogue squadron 2. In the next few months there were the amazing Wind Waker and F-zero GX.
The gamecube was an amazing, amazing system for about the first 3 or so years, had some incredible looking games graphically (how Nintendo made a profit off a beast like gamecube while makes a loss of WiiU is beyond my comprehension). It's just a shame that Nintendo's output decreased dramatically after those first 3 years and the only thing we really got was RE4. That's where I think the 3ds do better, I think it will last longer and have ongoing support whereas Nintendo just gave up on the gamecube.
So far on 3DS I've enjoyed Super Mario 3d Land although I have a hard time calling it a classic, had fun with a couple of ports (although I give no credit for porting classic games and reselling them), NSMB2 is symptomatic of a series that has no ambition. Mario Kart 7 is just, well.. Mario Kart is okay and I've never liked it as a handheld series. (local battle mode and grand prix is the only reason I play it) I still have to play Uprising though which GAF has given a lot of praise.
The Last true F-Zero ='(
Resident Evil Revelations + Mercenaries < Every single Resident Evil already released till those years.
Cube had direct ports of 2 and 3, slightly optimized version of Code Veronica, REmake, the almost exclusive for that time Resident 4 and the exclusive Resident Zero
Resident Evil Revelations + Mercenaries < Every single Resident Evil already released till those years.
Cube had direct ports of 2 and 3, slightly optimized version of Code Veronica, REmake, the almost exclusive for that time Resident 4 and the exclusive Resident Zero
Conrad Link
Member
GameCube was awesome and so is the 3DS.
In Europe it sure was.
Ace Attorney 5
Phoenix Wright VS Layton
Professor Layton
My most looked forward to non-Nintendo games!
There's more but I'm too lazy to think of them.
SturokBGD
Member
The Gamecube will probably always hold the most nostalgic memories for me, partially because I was too old when the NES etc came out for me to have that childhood nostalgia for them but mostly because of the connection between it and my then wife-to-be. She bought me Metroid Prime for Christmas. I married her a year later. Animal Crossing was like training wheels for our future life together.
No surprise the 3DS beat it already though.
No surprise the 3DS beat it already though.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I wonder if NSMBWii or Wii Sports were released for Gamecube, would they have taken off?
Is it just me or is the GameCube more loved on NeoGAF now than it was back when it was alive?
Probably because membership has expanded tremendously since 2006, but the GC received so much flack back in the early days of the current version of NeoGAF. Strange to see such a different atmosphere for it now.
Anyway, 3DS will surpass N64 sometime next year.
Probably because membership has expanded tremendously since 2006, but the GC received so much flack back in the early days of the current version of NeoGAF. Strange to see such a different atmosphere for it now.
Anyway, 3DS will surpass N64 sometime next year.
Spieler Eins
Member
Kinda sad how the GC is now used to badmouth the Wii and call a nonexistent fall of Nintendos quality - where the fuck were the defenders back then?
chertipros
Member
Wut? Lazy? How? Explain please
Arkam
Member
I am not sure this cannot be said enough.
I mean from a developer point of view the box had a couple major design flaws for multiplatform games, but damn were the exclusives great!
Sold around the same amount as the original XBOX.
According to Wikipedia, GameCube sold about 21 million units. Xbox sold 24 million.
It's kinda weird that people feel the compulsion to defend NGC as an underappreciated gem or attack it as a "disastrous flop", when its nearest competitor did only marginally better. A thread about Xbox sales would probably not contain as many apologists or negative nannies. Nobody would be saying how Microsoft's console division was poorly run by Allard and Blackley, in the same way that GameCube is viewed as an indictment of the late Yamauchi era.
You might say it's because there is a perception that the NGC halted Nintendo's momentum, whereas the Xbox ended up being a building block towards Microsoft's future success. But at the same time, Nintendo's momentum wasn't really halted -- the GameCube's successor went on to trounce both Microsoft and Sony. Both GameCube and Xbox were late to the game and didn't really offer anything over an entrenched competitor, so it seems reasonable that they should take a smaller share. The 360 came earlier and the Wii offered gameplay experiences that the PS3 didn't, so it also makes sense that they would enjoy greater market share.
GameCube only looks bad in comparison to the Wii and DS. The N64 wouldn't have sold any better than the GameCube, if not for a few industry-redefining titles like Mario 64, Zelda:OOT, and Goldeneye. I suppose it's a shame that the Cube never got any hugely influential games, but the ship had sailed on GTA3 and Halo:Combat Evolved before the system had even launched. I do kinda wonder what might have happened if the GameCube had launched in 2000, and there had been enough development time to make a port of GTA3 or Metal Gear Solid 2. I also kinda wonder why Nintendo dragged their feet on the GameCube, launching it a year later than the PS2. They were the "loser" of the previous generation, and therefore had a lot more to gain by coming to market early -- perhaps all the Gameboy/Pokemon money lulled them into complacency.
It's kinda weird that people feel the compulsion to defend NGC as an underappreciated gem or attack it as a "disastrous flop", when its nearest competitor did only marginally better. A thread about Xbox sales would probably not contain as many apologists or negative nannies. Nobody would be saying how Microsoft's console division was poorly run by Allard and Blackley, in the same way that GameCube is viewed as an indictment of the late Yamauchi era.
You might say it's because there is a perception that the NGC halted Nintendo's momentum, whereas the Xbox ended up being a building block towards Microsoft's future success. But at the same time, Nintendo's momentum wasn't really halted -- the GameCube's successor went on to trounce both Microsoft and Sony. Both GameCube and Xbox were late to the game and didn't really offer anything over an entrenched competitor, so it seems reasonable that they should take a smaller share. The 360 came earlier and the Wii offered gameplay experiences that the PS3 didn't, so it also makes sense that they would enjoy greater market share.
GameCube only looks bad in comparison to the Wii and DS. The N64 wouldn't have sold any better than the GameCube, if not for a few industry-redefining titles like Mario 64, Zelda:OOT, and Goldeneye. I suppose it's a shame that the Cube never got any hugely influential games, but the ship had sailed on GTA3 and Halo:Combat Evolved before the system had even launched. I do kinda wonder what might have happened if the GameCube had launched in 2000, and there had been enough development time to make a port of GTA3 or Metal Gear Solid 2. I also kinda wonder why Nintendo dragged their feet on the GameCube, launching it a year later than the PS2. They were the "loser" of the previous generation, and therefore had a lot more to gain by coming to market early -- perhaps all the Gameboy/Pokemon money lulled them into complacency.
It was so not a flop that Nintendo decided to totally ditch everything about it and pull a Wii a gen after.
Heck Iwata even said that if Wii did worse than GC it would be a massive failure.
Gamecube is outside of the Virtual Boy, the biggest flop Nintendo ever produced.
KennyLinder
Member
Gamecube was a hero. Had many thousands of hours of joy with that console and it's stunning library of games. If Wii U has a selection anything like that I will be very, very happy.
I think that had more to do with the fact that Nintendo decided they couldn't or shouldn't compete with two companies willing to accept hundreds of millions of dollars in losses for the first two years of a system's life. If the GameCube had sold twice what it did, they probably still would have designed the Wii exactly the same. If Sony had remained their sole competitor, they also might have remained in the technological arms race......but faced with Microsoft who was willing to lose billions, there was no point in continuing to make a traditional console. The GameCube was quite traditional, and that didn't gain them much traction.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
ata boy!
Rogue Squadron 2 and 3
Tales of Symphonia
Best version of Soul Calibur 2
RE 1 and 0
Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2
Probably a few more I can't remember, but then again some were multiplats..
The GameCube and Xbox both did pretty poorly against the juggernaut that was the PS2. They were pretty much just chasing the tablescraps left over.
The kind of weird thing to think about is the GameCube lived on inside the Wii, I'd estimate there's at least twice the amount of people that can technically play GameCube games than actual GameCube owners.
sketchsanchez
Member
i was one of those people. not on gaf but at the time i wasnt fond of it and became an xbot for a while there. so sad.
Freezie KO
Banned
Enjoyed the 3DS library up to the beginning of this year, but it's been dire since Spring. Damn Nintendo droughts.
I've only bought Scribblenauts Ultd and Mutant Mudds since... Kid Icarus, I guess. And the upcoming line-up isn't instilling me with much confidence. Luigi's Mansion looks good.
Anyway, they need software if they want to rise to heaven.
As for Gamecube, well, it had the best Mario Kart (for mechanics, not features) and TWO Pikmin titles. Nobody bought it, so now you all get underpowered hardware. Blame yourselves.
I've only bought Scribblenauts Ultd and Mutant Mudds since... Kid Icarus, I guess. And the upcoming line-up isn't instilling me with much confidence. Luigi's Mansion looks good.
Anyway, they need software if they want to rise to heaven.
As for Gamecube, well, it had the best Mario Kart (for mechanics, not features) and TWO Pikmin titles. Nobody bought it, so now you all get underpowered hardware. Blame yourselves.
test_account
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Are there any sources to this? I've seen it being mentioned a few times, but i've never seen a source when i've asked for it. I know that Nintendo was profitable in the Gamecube era, but that also comes from the sales for Gameboy Advance, i havnt seen any info where Gamecube is seperated.
