Tiago Rodrigues
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Seems like Sony is doing a good job with stock during these summer months!
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5 months after release, Horizon Forbidden West returns to #1 in the UK's Boxed Sales chart
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Seems like Sony is doing a good job with stock during these summer months!
Relative to Q1 2022 yep, relatively to Q2 2021 is a bit of unknown. Thursday evening/friday morning will be more enlightening.
Using normal calendar periods.
H1 2021 globally was 5.6m PS5 units, will be interesting to see what they have been able to ship H1 2022.
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Punished Miku
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Stray is getting an Aloy dreads hat in an upcoming update. Calling it now.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
I'm sure Q2 will have a bigger shipment for PS5 than last year. If not there's no possibility for this console to sell more this year.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Dude states sales have increased... states this is due to console bundling...
So people who said last time that console bundling had no effect on horizon sales, what's your take? You where quite adamant last time it had nothing to do with it.
So people who said last time that console bundling had no effect on horizon sales, what's your take? You where quite adamant last time it had nothing to do with it.
It should do but I am not expecting it to be much more honestly.
2.3m was Q2 2021 units.
2.0m was Q1 2022.
There might have been a serious shift away from the UK however we know that ps5 is down 44% h1 in the UK so expecting Q2 to be similar YoY or just up slightly.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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Oh I'm sorry, you're talking fiscal quarters and I meant the 2nd semester this year, so from July to December. When I said Q2 I made a mistake.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lmao. I remember getting so much shit for this.
It’sa physical sale to buy the digital code
Lognor
Banned
Wait, this actually happened? I recall people being okay with bundling even those the ps5 is severely supplied constrained (I think bundles are a shit move by Sony btw), but I don't recall anyone saying bundling wasn't helping hzd2 sales. How could one argue that???? Of course bundles materially helped hzd2 sales!!
Mr Moose
Member
It's stupid IMO, but it counts as a physical game.
I think it's because other bundles get ignored (Switch/Xbox/other PS5 bundles) while only Horizon bundles get mentioned.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Sugoi bundle-chan
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Highlights include
But yes plenty of people unable to accept that bundles have a positive aspect on sales... and also that I own GT7 but don't like it's monetisation, like alot. But yes bundles.
It's not like Horizon hasent been stupidly successful, but its long legs is mainly up to bundles... its not like Assassin's Creed Valhalla wasent stupidly popular either, and Forbidden West is largely just a prettier version of that with less intresting characters. So it's going to do well, but at the same time if all you can buy is a console with it included most of the time, its going to bump the numbers.
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Talking calendar periods
Global
Q1 2021 - 3.3m
Q2 2021 - 2.3m
Q1 2022 - 2.0m
Q2 2022 - unknown
From the UK, we know that Q1+Q2 is down 44%. There has to have been a shift away from the UK because the same market split in terms of Sony PS5 shipments doesn't make sense imo but how big is an unknown. I should try and get the UK% to a possible range of numbers but ehh.
I will say 2.5m will be the number that we see on Friday
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Well the first one is a lie so it can't be that one.
prinz_valium
Member
No, the game retuned to no. 1 before this week already.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Because Sony hasnt announced sales for this game 6 months after launch while they were quick to point out Horizon 1's sales after just a few weeks when they revealed it had sold 2.7 million in a month.
Bundles are good when the game is bundled in for free with the PS5. This game is being packaged separately so that Sony can count this is as a sale and the price of the PS5 is being artificially inflated to $550 instead of $500. People who dont want to buy the game are now stuck with a copy of a game they paid $50 for.
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
ChorizoPicozo
Member
I mean....good for them. Hope sony/guerrilla take the criticism to heart. It's just for their own good.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony doesn't announce sales for any game at any point now. It's been like that since Jim Ryan is CEO. You'll know about this games sales if the DLC is real, once its announced.
They only release numbers if there's anything new to talk about any IP. They also never announced that Tlou2 surpassed 10M. We only found out randomly on twitter by Neil, mo the after it happened.
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Because retail drove the sale. Retail got a cut of the sale too.
Sales data is really meant for companies like retailers, it's not for consumers. Retailers pay good money for more extensive sales data, that's how NPD exists. They want to compare what is selling region-wide compared to their own stores, and they can adjust shelf space/counter space/in-store marketing, etc.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Nope. Sony has announced numbers for Demon Souls 1.2 million in 10 months, Ratchet 1.0 million in 1 month, Returnal 500k in 3 months, and TLOU2's numbers were revealed in an official blog post.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Damn, Horizon selling less than half a million confirmed /s
Lognor
Banned
What other PS5 bundles? When you say Xbox bundles, are you talking about Xbox Series X or Xbox One? I can't recall any Xbox Series bundles.
With Switch there weren't any bundles when the console was impossible to find. We started seeing bundles when the Switch was readily available. This is different with the PS5. They are hard to find and Sony has the gall to bundle this game AND charge for it. If it was included in the cost of the console that would be one thing. I don't recall any other PS5 bundles, but they should get shit for that too.. And if Microsoft did bundle a game with the Series Xconsole they should get shit. Series S is a different story since it is easy to find, but I don't recall any bundles there either.
We used to give shit to Gamestop and others all the time when they had these forced bundles with new consoles. Why should Sony get a pass here? Why should Nintendo or Microsoft if they were doing the same thing (which I don't think they were; please correct me if I'm wrong).
Pelta88
Member
Don't spoil the fun.
Let them keep talking about how bundle sales don't count and enjoy the hilarity.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Not sure what you mean, but the digital codes are indeed counted as physical sales in the UK, at least from GfK. Yes, it's utterly stupid, but it is what it is.
Don't spoil the fun.
Let them keep talking about how bundle sales don't count and enjoy the hilarity.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Digital sales count in the UK, we know this lol.
Horizon is killing it. Last of us part one next!
Horizon is killing it. Last of us part one next!
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Well deserved, it's a very good open world game. If it was made by Ubisoft it would make their top 5 best games.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
At least its getting super cheap on places like ebay. Might be worth the investment for me soon to see just ti see the graphics.
Might get it for 20 squid soon.
Might get it for 20 squid soon.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The game is great, deserves the spotlight, it’s currently on my top 3 for the year.
But fabricating physical sales numbers from a pack-in digital game… Is this normal? Means that Astro’s Playroom is going to be one of the most sold games of all time. Already at 20 million copies!
These bundles cost extra money.. people are in effect paying for the game.
Yes it's normal.. but.. it's a sale, of a game, at a retailer lol It just happens that the way Sony creates this bundle is to include a digital code.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Not sure why some people don't want to listen to a poster like
IntentionalPun
but he doesn't have a Sony bias. His reasoning makes perfect sense. But let's see how many more people ignore him from this point on (after he's now pointed it out twice in this very thread).El Pistolero
Banned
itsjustJEFF
Member
Cause ppl seem to really dislike Horizon... apparently, Horizon bundle sales should be separate from it's regular sales but this rule ONLY applies to Horizon or something
Personally, idk why this is news or why anyone cares about bundles or whatever... no one really cared before. All part of the long running Console Wars.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
There's this false narrative going around that just because Sony hasn't announced sales figures, that means it's it was an unsuccessful title.
Sony was more than happy to announce that Uncharted 4 sold 8.7 million copies even though it was in large part due to bundles - a bundle that was sold at MSRP.
Sales announcements are just mostly for PR at this point.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Microsoft released a Halo Infinite bundle when Xbox Series X consoles were limited.
People stopped giving Gamestop and other retailers shit for bundles because scalpers are less likely to buy them. And why should people give "Sony" a pass for Gamestop bundles?
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
People just care way too much about sales numbers really.Not sure why some people don't want to listen to a poster like
Getting bent out of shape because a game's "sales" benefit form bundling just seems so bizarre. Would the game sell less without them? I mean yeah probably.. who gives a shit? lol
Tams
Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
How about at launch?
Introducing the Limited Edition God of War PS4 Pro Bundle
Launching April 20, featuring a Leviathan Gray finish inspired by Kratos' axe.
blog.playstation.com
Red Dead Redemption 2 also had a $399 bundle at launch.
Next time do your research or you will end up looking like a moron.
Tams
Member
4 and a half and 5 years after the console launched.How about at launch?
Introducing the Limited Edition God of War PS4 Pro Bundle
Launching April 20, featuring a Leviathan Gray finish inspired by Kratos' axe.
Red Dead Redemption 2 also had a $399 bundle at launch.
Next time do your research or you will end up looking like a moron.
Fredrik
Member
Sure but when people can’t buy the console at all and a bundle pops up, do people deliberately buy the game or do they buy the console that finally arrives and happens to have a pack-in game?
I mean I bought my PS5 with an extra controller which is still in the box. Only way to get the console. I guess the scalper bots weren’t tuned in to check for bundles yet, without bundles they were up for seconds. This is not in the UK though, maybe people can walk into a store and choose if they want with or without a bundle there idk
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