Man Called Aerodynamics
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My take is the sort of young person who tells a pollster that they're planning to vote for Stein is the same sort of person who won't actually bother to turn out on election day.
Also Congress decides who becomes President if a leading candidate fails to get to 270I wish my fellow Millenials would realise that you don't get a third party system by voting in presidential elections. It's not how they work. If you want a third party candidate you have to fundamentally change the way the USA runs its elections, which means getting involved in party politics and changing the agenda of the parties.
Voting third party in a presidential election accomplishes precisely nothing and will never, ever result in a third choice. It can't, by definition - if a third party arise it would take the place of one of the current two parties. The only way to have more than a choice of two at the top of the ticket is to get involved at every level of politics and build change from the ground up.
But we never seem to want to actually do the work, instead it's a ton of complaining about turd sandwiches and a douche every four years and that's it.
It's a shame he can't get a third term. He'd demolish Hillary and Trump for free.
I think even Romney would have demolished Hillary and Trump for free. This election sucks.
As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
Bernie showed that there was a candidate with fire... Clinton really needs to do that.
Strong orator skills like Obama and Bernie, tied with a positive message of change really bring out the young vote.
As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
Where was the youth vote in 2010 and 2014?
Honestly don't blame the younger voters at all. They see through all the crookedness from both sides.
Yeah cause Hillary speaking on institutionalized racism is such and outdated fad
Bernie showed that there was a candidate with fire... Clinton really needs to do that.
Strong orator skills like Obama and Bernie, tied with a positive message of change really bring out the young vote.
Aw, thanks. Your concern is noted. Care to elaborate on why you believe Clinton is senile, out of touch and fake? Enlighten us poor unfortunate souls with your European wisdom and insight.As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
the choice is between the status quo and a bonafide nazi.
Yeah cause Hillary speaking on institutionalized racism is such and outdated fad
As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
Born of ignorance. With SCOTUS up for grabs, we have a great opportunity to push this country further left.
I'd really like to see what she said on this. Got a link?
Born of ignorance. With SCOTUS up for grabs, we have a great opportunity to push this country further left.
How is it surprising? We're at a big generational turn. The new generation is going out from colleges with huge debts, and jobs aren't as certain or pay as good as they were before. In 10 years, a LOT of jobs are going to disappear. Climate change is also there and looming on the future of this generation. It's only obvious they'd be extremely detached from a political scenario that seems to live in the past, focused on petty regional power issues and ignoring the loss of purchasing powers of workers, the increased inequality of wealth, the looming climate change that will create more than a billion of refugees in the next 50 years, and that in 2016 still can't give them the safety of a good healthcare system, for one. There's this pervading perception that no one actually care about people anymore, and the choice is between the status quo with a terrible history on foreign policies and a bonafide nazi.
What does this mean?As far as actual policies go, Hillary is basically Obama. The SCOTUS changing orientation is just because of Trump, let's not kid ourselves. Any democrat would've buried such a dumpster fire of a candidate.
And the mass murdering in the middle east will continue if not intensify with Hillary. That's one issue that's dear to my heart for me, but being on the other side of the ocean it may be harder to understand.
As far as actual policies go, Hillary is basically Obama. The SCOTUS changing orientation is just because of Trump, let's not kid ourselves. Any democrat would've buried such a dumpster fire of a candidate.
And the mass murdering in the middle east will continue if not intensify with Hillary. That's one issue that's dear to my heart for me, but being on the other side of the ocean it may be harder to understand.
Er, what? Foreign policy under the Obama administration has been the best it's been in a long ass time. What are you talking about? I really hope it's not just a Benghazi thing, because that single event along does not equal a 'terrible history,' unless you're on the far right and it was the equal of a genocide.
I hate this horseshit. It's really not true at all. And Hillary is doing a bang up job of winning now. Do you actually follow the polls? Do you understand how far behind Trump actually is?
Hillary voted for every single American foreign intervention in the last 30 years iirc. And you talking about Obama's foreign policy as the best it's been in a long ass time mean we can't really talk about this.
Hillary voted for every single American foreign intervention in the last 30 years iirc. And you talking about Obama's foreign policy as the best it's been in a long ass time mean we can't really talk about this.
Hillary voted for every single American foreign intervention in the last 30 years iirc. And you talking about Obama's foreign policy as the best it's been in a long ass time mean we can't really talk about this.
Trump has a 30% favorability rating. Please. He's the big reason indipendents are doing really good (right now) and Hillary will win with the widest gap since Reagan, if not more. I'd bet on double digits.
How Hillary Clinton Won HarlemI'd really like to see what she said on this. Got a link?
Never would have gone into Panama if it weren't for Hillary.
You mean Iraq. Don't make it sound like she voted for dozens upon dozens.
...What? Half of this sentence completely contradicts the other half.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating
What is that you're missing? No one with that low of a favorability rating could ever win an election unless he was running alone.
I realize, I've followed the election closely, but what you're saying is making little sense. You said originally that any other democrat would have destroyed Trump, implying that Hillary is not...but then go on to say you expect her to destroy him? I don't even know what you were trying to get at then.
Trump has a 30% favorability rating. Please. He's the big reason indipendents are doing really good (right now) and Hillary will win with the widest gap since Reagan, if not more. I'd bet on double digits.
I don't think there will be a long term effect with this.
He could easily run a primary campaign without Super PACs tbh.Watershed and his Wall Street donor base makes that very unlikely.
A lot of young people simply don't like Hillary.
Do you think ifHillary gets in office and starts passing through good policy, young people will turn around on her? Or will they be stuck in "Nah, she's super corrupt and evil and shit at memes!"when
She's all we have due to our severely compromised system. There's no one else to vote for. A logical fallacy has become reality in that if you don't vote for her you'r against her. It's really crazy shit, but it's always been like this.As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
As a non American it boggles my mind how it comes down to Hillary or Trump. Both of them seem so out of touch, senile and fake. I actually kinda feel sorry.
The Medicaid Expansion being optional is the most obvious thing I can think of. To my knowledge Sanders wasn't really all that enthusiastic about immigration reform, so something like DAPA probably wasn't on the minds of Sanders voters at all, but if they're all mad about Citizens United that's another obvious consequence of not caring about SCOTUS.The Supreme Court rarely influences economic issues in the modern era. There's an opportunity to push for greater liberalism, which is obviously worth taking, but economically the status quo is likely to prevail.
I'll echo the sentiment that most people in my social circles (me being a young 20 something) despise Trump, however they also hate Hillary. So many are voting for Johnson or Stein, or even hoping Bernie somehow gets himself back in the race.
Do you think ifHillary gets in office and starts passing through good policy, young people will turn around on her? Or will they be stuck in "Nah, she's super corrupt and evil and shit at memes!"when
Ahh, to be young, white, and dumb
I know people voting for her 'cuz "She's truly left, Hillary's actually far right man" and shit like that.Anyone considering voting for Jill Stein needs to come back to reality, she's as mad as Ben Carson.
Ahh to be racist. What does the color of his skin have to do with anything?