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8-4Play 12/10/10: JUMP THE SHARQ (or The Monster Hunter Show)
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Zeouterlimits
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Y-E-S!
Still, I do wish they (ye) would do a non-What'cha been playing episode and start covering localisation as there's so much there.
I realise it might not have as much room for humorous entertainment, but I'm really interested.
Still, I do wish they (ye) would do a non-What'cha been playing episode and start covering localisation as there's so much there.
I realise it might not have as much room for humorous entertainment, but I'm really interested.
AgentOtaku
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Quest Complete
A Human Becoming
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You're dead to me John! DEAD!
Debating whether to listen or not...
Not really. He should know what I'm referring too.
Debating whether to listen or not...
slaughterking
Member
Yay, I answered 'yes' to all three questions. Guees I have to listen then.
I played some 2nd G and enjoyed it. My problem was that I did no someone to help me out with the start or people to play with. Portable 3rd already sounds more appealing because of the 2 feline companions.
Edit: And now I jsut heard them say that those fuckers that burrowed in the desert are not in this. Great because I probably quit 2nd G/Unite.
Edit: And now I jsut heard them say that those fuckers that burrowed in the desert are not in this. Great because I probably quit 2nd G/Unite.
RuneFactoryFanboy
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My favorite Podcast doing a 2 hour show about one of my favorite series?
Keep up the fantastic work guys.
Keep up the fantastic work guys.
Anerythristic
Member
I have like over 300 hours in MHF:U. This is for me.
MarkMac pronounced my last name the same as the P1P dudes. you guys are totally rippin' them off.
the discussion is pretty damn interesting but fuck "the claw" method to play the game. i'll patiently wait for a new console version on the 360 or PS3 before i jump into the series. i don't want to deal with the camera issues.
the discussion is pretty damn interesting but fuck "the claw" method to play the game. i'll patiently wait for a new console version on the 360 or PS3 before i jump into the series. i don't want to deal with the camera issues.
MiniBossBattle
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You have captured my Monoblos heart (4% drop rate).
I am gonna warm up a plate of Bigmeat, pour me some GoldenFish Brew and listen to this podcast.
I am gonna warm up a plate of Bigmeat, pour me some GoldenFish Brew and listen to this podcast.
LiK said:MarkMac pronounced my last name the same as the P1P dudes. you guys are totally rippin' them off.
the discussion is pretty damn interesting but fuck "the claw" method to play the game. i'll patiently wait for a new console version on the 360 or PS3 before i jump into the series. i don't want to deal with the camera issues.
You are making a mistake there.. it isn't nearly as bad as it sounds, and when playing the single player content it isn't even required.
While I love the MarkMacD rage over 3rd's lack of infrastructure mode, I wonder if it's social engineering on the part of Capcom to force Monster Hunter players to gather in real-life, play the game and evangelize.
I actually think that's part of the magic of the Monster Hunter phenomenon in Japan. The game has such a steep learning curve, you really need a mentor to sit down next to you and help you learn the ropes. If the game shipped with infrastructure, you can imagine a lot of Monster Hunter first-timers logging online and playing with random jerk faces. In that scenario, I think the chances of MH virgins sticking with the game greatly diminishes...
I actually think that's part of the magic of the Monster Hunter phenomenon in Japan. The game has such a steep learning curve, you really need a mentor to sit down next to you and help you learn the ropes. If the game shipped with infrastructure, you can imagine a lot of Monster Hunter first-timers logging online and playing with random jerk faces. In that scenario, I think the chances of MH virgins sticking with the game greatly diminishes...
Yeah, it's all about community. It's impossible to say if they're engineering it or not; I'd hazard a guess they planned to evolve to Infrastructure at some point but just opted not to because financially there's no good reason to. WiiSpeak and free online with Tri showed they're open to trying new ideas for other markets, but the voice chat implementation was horrible so it didn't really pay off -- I hope that doesn't make them think it's not worth continuing to try and succeed overseas, because Tri showed people really will play the game and get into it if given a chance.novery said:
It had more online hours logged per player than Smash Bros. -- that's no small feat!ShockingAlberto
Member
Secretly the best Monster Hunter podcast
darkressurection
Banned
Man, it would be so awesome if they did little 20-30 min Monster Hunter Tip podcasts for those of us who are bad at Monster Hunter.ShockingAlberto said:
Really excellent podcast. It really isn't just about Monster Hunter Portable 3rd as much as it's about the cultural phenomenon of the game, as well as the series' history and appeal. You guys did a great job of covering such a vast topic, and even as a non-MH player I find it fascinating to hear. And the subject of how to make MH appealing to the West is something that could be made into a larger discussion on NeoGAF IMO.
And love the imitation road at the end
And love the imitation road at the end
firehawk12
Subete no aware
What the heck was that hazing that they were talking about at the start? :lol
Good episode.
I've tried to get into Monster Hunter a handful of times with Unite and Tri and I'm currently playing Unite again.
I do think that if Capcom keeps improving the game it'll eventually catch on in NA. MH Portable 3rd looks like a bit of a MH 2.5 release really in terms of gameplay but with some future HD Monster Hunter or PSP2 or 3DS Monster Hunter they could have a clean slate in which to innovate and fix some of the core issues that have prevented the series from becoming popular outside of Japan.
I have to agree with what was mentioned in the podcast concerning what needs to be improved. Having the game be recognizably fun within the first 30 minutes is pretty damn important. Improved tutorial would be good, and better camera controls, or simply a better camera is essential. One thing that wasn't mentioned was that the basic interface for the game feels extremely archaic. This is a bit of an issue with many Japanese games still, but MH in particular seems quite bad. Just moving items around seems much more painful than it needs to be.
In my opinion the secret best "Monster Hunter" for the NA audience that is quickly dissuaded by the awful controls and imposing gameplay of MH may actually be Portable Ops.
One other thing: Why no talk about MoHun Nikki? I am actually a bit more interested in this game than MH Portable 3rd. :lol
I've tried to get into Monster Hunter a handful of times with Unite and Tri and I'm currently playing Unite again.
I do think that if Capcom keeps improving the game it'll eventually catch on in NA. MH Portable 3rd looks like a bit of a MH 2.5 release really in terms of gameplay but with some future HD Monster Hunter or PSP2 or 3DS Monster Hunter they could have a clean slate in which to innovate and fix some of the core issues that have prevented the series from becoming popular outside of Japan.
I have to agree with what was mentioned in the podcast concerning what needs to be improved. Having the game be recognizably fun within the first 30 minutes is pretty damn important. Improved tutorial would be good, and better camera controls, or simply a better camera is essential. One thing that wasn't mentioned was that the basic interface for the game feels extremely archaic. This is a bit of an issue with many Japanese games still, but MH in particular seems quite bad. Just moving items around seems much more painful than it needs to be.
In my opinion the secret best "Monster Hunter" for the NA audience that is quickly dissuaded by the awful controls and imposing gameplay of MH may actually be Portable Ops.
One other thing: Why no talk about MoHun Nikki? I am actually a bit more interested in this game than MH Portable 3rd. :lol
ShockingAlberto
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D:cvxfreak said:
firehawk12
Subete no aware
cvxfreak said:
Can you describe it without me being horrified? :lol
Oh mother of god. Whyyyyyy. :lol
Listened to the show last night, I don't like MH (or MGSW) but I really enjoyed it. Culturally I find Japan's obsession over it really interesting. Something that was slightly touched on in the show, I find it quite strange what 'hardcore' is over there compared to here. In the West CoD/Halo are kind of the common games every gamer plays, if you play something like MH you're very hardcore over here, where as in Japan it's the complete opposite, quite bizarre.
And I checked the picture, it's a rabbit.
W) but I really enjoyed it. Culturally I find Japan's obsession over it really interesting. Something that was slightly touched on in the show, I find it quite strange what 'hardcore' is over there compared to here. In the West CoD/Halo are kind of the common games every gamer plays, if you play something like MH you're very hardcore over here, where as in Japan it's the complete opposite, quite bizarre.And I checked the picture, it's a rabbit.
So I've been listening to Weekend Confirmed just now. They were talking about WoW, and the fact that the game doesn't really 'kicks in' until you reach level 15 or so. Now I bring this up here, because one of the 8-4 guys -I think it's Mark- said that one of the reasons this game will never be huge in the west is that it isn't fun for the first few hours. Obviously I don't need to say how big WoW is here, even though it isn't the most accessible game for new comers.
I'm very interested to hear a counter argument or an elaboration regarding this point.
I'm very interested to hear a counter argument or an elaboration regarding this point.
EphemeralDream
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Was that music at the beginning from Monster Hunter? Sounded good.
Yeah, all the music is from Monster Hunter.EphemeralDream said:
First track is from MH1 (but in all MH games - it's the main theme, Proof of a Hero), two of the others are from MHP3 and one is from MH Tri. The closing theme is Zinogre's theme (flagship monster in MHP3). It is SO kick ass. The music in this series is among the best of any series in gaming IMO, Japanese or otherwise. Truly, truly epic.
Full version of Proof of a Hero from MH Tri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA5MuGs_im8
Just listening to it gets my adrenaline pumping.
Another fine show.
I played Tri for 30 hours (all offline, though) and I felt like I barely scratched the surface.
I'd probably have enjoyed it a lot more if the animations were half as long, the number of different resources was half as large, and the weapon-sharpening stuff was removed entirely.
The concept of slaying massive beasts and using their parts to create increasingly awesome armour and weaponry is fantastic, but the resource and time management is just overwhelming.
And you guys were saying that Tri was the most noob-friendly!
I played Tri for 30 hours (all offline, though) and I felt like I barely scratched the surface.
I'd probably have enjoyed it a lot more if the animations were half as long, the number of different resources was half as large, and the weapon-sharpening stuff was removed entirely.
The concept of slaying massive beasts and using their parts to create increasingly awesome armour and weaponry is fantastic, but the resource and time management is just overwhelming.
And you guys were saying that Tri was the most noob-friendly!
SatelliteOfLove
Member
I understand far more about MH now than before the show. Good job, 8-4 team!