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800,000 PS3 units sold in Europe
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Gotta credit Sony for giving away the free Casino Royale Blu-Ray discs with the first European PS3s... that movie did insane business over there. Good launch lineup too (and Europe is used to getting screwed for consoles, so PS3's price wasn't as offensive as it is here). We'll see how things play out.
pooteeweet said:
I'd guess so since it did read as a very poor troll because if selling 800k at 599€ (more in some parts of Europe) in less than a month (PS3 launched on 23/03/2007 in EU) isn't good, what is?
Unless people thought us Europeans would buy more than that at that price in less than a month...
PistolGrip
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Mojovonio said:
I usually stay away from NPDs
. I'll save you the trouble here are my most probable responses:* :O
* Nintendo third party
* Sony third party
* MS & Sony merge to beat Non gaming phenomenon!
* Oh Sh*t at PSP numbers. DS is still killing though.
TheProfessor said:I usually stay away from NPDs
* :O
* Nintendo third party
* Sony third party
* MS & Sony merge to beat Non gaming phenomenon!
* Oh Sh*t at PSP numbers. DS is still killing though.
You forgot about the return of The Phantom.
I can't believe you'll miss out on what is going to be a glorious NPD.
Starchasing
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Lain said:
800 000 in a month is great if you dont consider anything else.
Beer Monkey
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Lain said:
800k in less than a month is good.
17k in a week, if true (big if) for the UK is maybe not so good.
Ultimately, the first few weeks is really not a good indicator of either the success or failure of a platform. The fans and the trolls are both jumping the gun.
PistolGrip
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I didnt say I wouldn't read itMojovonio said:
March will be specially awesome.how could I have forgotten the phantom!
tha_con said:Sometimes GAF is full of so much anger and sarcasm. It's quickly become a breading point for fanboysI remember ghosting around and lurking before I signed up, the good ol days...
It's a cesspool of anger and obsession, sarcasm and humor, photoshop and PS3 france.
and its home!
<3
Starchasing
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schuelma said:
Thats true, and i think is it worse if you compare it to the Wii for example. Nintendo has sold about 2 million in Europe with no signs of slowing down. At the end I think its all about the price, if PS3 were 300 euros we would be having a very different conversation. I believe that if Sony wants to be the videogame market leader they will drop the price sooner than later. If Sony wants to go back to its high price high quality image they will do the same as they did with the psp price.
I think Sony´s PS3 strategy is very good but they are not focused in either the short-term or the videogames market.
JoshuaJSlone
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Since Sony was already dominant in Europe, wouldn't that be "breaking even" at best, rather than a "minor market shift"?QVT said:
There are more Wiis available than any near-launch console ever. It takes more than a push of a button and a waggle of the wand to double production. They have increased now, but by an unspecified amount.DrXym said:
They did, and it hasn't.Meier said:
Zombie James
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TheProfessor said:Facts: (maybe)
- PS3 sold 600,000 on the week of launch. This is a brilliant sales figure, IMHO. I expected it, many others did too, but often not quite to the degree of 600,000. It broke records easily.
Most of GAF did not expect this actually due to Feb US numbers and all the negative press around launch.
- After week 3, PS3 sales are approaching 800,000. (My estimate is 770,000, the margin for reasonable error is rather tiny). 800,000 for a 3 or 4 week period is a great number. Might be record. In and of itself, 800,000 is great for a 3 or 4 week launch period. This was almost all due to the opening week however.
I dont see your point? The fact is it sold that many in that period of time. You are just spinning - I know that's a fact. It's a great number, it was almost all due to the opening week. That's a significant fact. If it was split evenly among the 3 or 4 weeks, then it's be reasonable to to imagine figures would remain consistant and sales would stablise at whatwould be a remarkable number. The lanuch would've been considered poor in this situation, but for something to have such amazing legs into non-launch weeks would be remarkable. This didn't happen. PS3 sales are front heavy, and thus that means later sales are "lighter". We've seen the good, now I think we'll see the bad.
- PS3 sold 200,000 for the 2 or 3 weeks after launch combined. The system isn't supply constrained. Only 200,000 people wanted to purchase a PlayStation 3 for the 2 or 3 weeks following launch week.
So the PS3 sold in 2-3 weeks what the 360 sells in a month in the US the largest market in the world and you make it sound like it was a poor showing? WTF, you smoking some good shit. - These are the 2 or 3 weeks after launch, I ask you not to neglect. If PS3 sells 200,000 for the next 2 or 3 weeks I will eat a 100W light bulb.
- On the third week, THIRD WEEK, PS3 sold 17,000 in UK, and based on 27.5% of European PS3 hardware being UK on launch week, that's 61,818 for the whole of Europe... on the THIRD WEEK.
17k in the UK is a great number, why spin this negatively? oh I know why - This was the third week on sales of a console that could sell to anybody that wanted to purchase it. A number which reflects rapid decline. 165,000, to 29,700 to 17,000. It'd be ridiculous to expect PS3 to level off at 17,000 per week in UK based off of that trend.
- We have absolutely no proof or hard figures for the the 4th week (last week). If PS3's trend continued - where it was dropping like a rock, but that rock dropped at a less and less fast proportion each week - then sales for Europe on its 4th on sale (last week) were just 37,221. Again, this is just speculation.
Yes, things drop and no one knows exactly where the PS3 will stabilize in Europe. therefore you cannot assume anything cause it just makes you look like an ass. - True, nobody knows, and I am not assuming anything. I speculated and even went as far as stating it was speculation to those who would otherwise probably flame me about speculating. But no, some still flame people for speculation. It still remains true that at the current rate of decline, if you drew a graph of PS3 sales, PS3 sales for 4th week on sale in Europe was 37,221 based on calculations, extrapolating everything we know. The actual number it likely to be less or more. I personally think more, but not much more.
The so-called spinners in this thread are simply stating 600,000 is brilliant and that 108,000 week after wasn't, then 17,000 in UK week after that wasn't good either.
You call people spinners but they are actually stating more factual information than you are instead of assumptions and ignorant comments like saying 17k for the UK is a bad number. - That's an ironic statement, IMO. It's not like I turn up here and say "hey look, PS3 has sold this much. It definitely has sold this much! I worked it out, assuming that UK would be a fairly consisent properortion of the European pie. I'm simply calculating estimates for missing information and list the assumptions the calculations make. I offer it because I want to display something that challenges people's ASSUMPTIONS that PS3 will miraculously turn its decline around.
Some of you sony haters better put some oil on your spinning machine cause your sh*t's getting old
Some people like the analysis that others make. You talk about assumptions, and you assume I'm a Sony hater. :lol The last thread I made was to defend PSP's software sales (outside of Japan). It's picked on for no good reason, IMO. I think it's silly to assume PS3 will suddently turn itself around without a reason. It's not fact that it will continue to decline. But it's almost certain it will by a significant amount past the 17k figure from two weeks ago, IMO. Assuming the opposite is sill, IMO.
ComputerNerd
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Ceb said:Still on track to hit their goal of 1M sold by the end of April. Cry bitter salty tears.
They are definitely not on track to sell 200K in the next two weeks. Considering the last 3 weeks they sold 200K, and the rate is declining.
StingerNLG
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PS3 sales this week (the 4th week) were probably around the 10k mark for the UK (based on CTs own confirmation of MotorStorm sales at 6,899).
Compared to somewhere like Japan this is low, but its a pretty good week for the UK (if not a little low for our Easter spike). Watch future games sales for a good comparitor - are there any good/popular PS3 post launch games on the way or do we already have them all?
And the actual Financial Times (FT.com) UK quote is:
I'd like to thank all the Americans for visiting European threads this week and look forward to being welcomed in to watch their stats orgy on Thursday in the monthly thread.
Compared to somewhere like Japan this is low, but its a pretty good week for the UK (if not a little low for our Easter spike). Watch future games sales for a good comparitor - are there any good/popular PS3 post launch games on the way or do we already have them all?
And the actual Financial Times (FT.com) UK quote is:
which clearly states sold & not shipped.Sir Howard Stringer said:
I'd like to thank all the Americans for visiting European threads this week and look forward to being welcomed in to watch their stats orgy on Thursday in the monthly thread.
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tha_con said:Sometimes GAF is full of so much anger and sarcasm. It's quickly become a breading point for fanboys
It's a cesspool of anger and obsession, sarcasm and humor, photoshop and PS3 france.
lame.
I've been a member here for over 6 years. Guess what, there actually were no 'good old days' there was just people whining about how the year previous was the 'good old days' every ****ing year.
ComputerNerd
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TheProfessor said:
17K wasn't a good number. Considering it was Easter week, and the Wii sold 25K in the same week.
AdmiralViscen
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That Alien3 gif is magnificent.
Ynos Yrros
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According to "leaks". PS3 still costs over 2 times more than the Wii, and software sales are contradicting those "leaks". PS3, while selling 1/3 less units than Wii, sold much more games.ComputerNerd said:
PS: that Alien gif is insta classic, beats the Jaws one.
HomerSimpson-Man
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That gif...holy crap!
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TheDrowningMan
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Ynos Yrros said:
Wii is selling a similar rate of software and its most sought after game comes packed in with the console. But by all means, continue to live in denial.
Ynos Yrros
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Hmmm...TheDrowningMan said:
sonycowboy
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beermonkey@tehbias said:
Other than the DS, and back in the day the PS2, NO system averages 17k in the UK. Of course, it can still go down and the 3rd week isn't exactly " a regular period", but during regular periods 17k is an excellent number.
You wouldn't know it because we don't get weekly sales from the UK.
THQ, EA, Sony, MCV, and Charttrack are all quite high on the PS3 in Europe based on the launch and THQ has stated that they expect the PS3 to pass the 360 in short order in that region.
The other major factor is the timing of the price drop. Some expect it to be later this year, but if necessary, I can see Sony moving quicker than that. The price is simply far too high to allow for rapid adoption, IMO.
TheDrowningMan
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Ynos Yrros said:
Yeah? Similar sales. Sonic was at #18, seven places and maybe 1k units behind Resistance. Unless there's a secret pack-in with PS3, almost everyone who purchased one would need to buy a game in order to have anything to play on it.
Wii actually comes with a game that you haven't heard of, which is known as Wii Sports. Here's a link to some reviews and information: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/wii/wiisports?q=wii sports
It's helped drive sales of the console, appealing to the 'non-gamers' the DS & PS2 helped create in recent years and acting as a bonus to existing Nintendo fans. Many of these people won't see a need to purchase another game immediately alongside the console (though Wii software has still held up pretty well all things considered), just as we've seen in Japan where the game - sold separately - has remained the only Wii title consistently present in the top 10, driving console sales in the process.
Again, that is called Wii Sports (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Sports for anyone else who is unacquainted with it).
As an aside, early adopters are more likely to procure more software with the console than those who are picking it up months after launch. They are, for lack of a better term, more 'hardcore'. And, if they're buying a PS3, they very likely have an extremely tidy income. I'd actually say that Sony must be rather disappointed with software sales all things considered.
As for the most recent sales, it was extrapolated from the various charts that a Wii / PS3 top 5 this week would look something like....
1) Wii Play
2) Motor Storm
3) Resistance
4) Zelda
5) Tiger Woods (Wii only)
sonycowboy said:
Sony actually going to have the stones to make a quick price drop? I hope they do because the PS3 is pretty much ultimate a/v device. It is just priced too damn high at the moment.
MS should be happy for what they have in the USA, because I think the X360 is about to get pummelled by the PS3 and Wii in Europe. We know what has happened in Japan.
davepoobond
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holy crap that's a lot.
Ynos Yrros
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So, people aren't buying games for Wii, because Wii sports is enough for them? Ok.TheDrowningMan said:
I posted specific Wii list to show you, that multi plat games aren't exactly high in the top 40 chart because of the Wii version.
PS3 is selling faster than Wii, and has better software sales as well in UK, nice.
Ynos Yrros said:
Why did you post the All Prices Chart and not the Full Price one with it? The Wii has five different games in both charts while the PS3 only has two, meaning that the Wii games that showed up (Tiger Woods, Sonic, Zelda: TP, and another that I can't recall) did better than any non-MotorStorm and Resistance games, which both sold less than Wii Play. And I don't even need to say that this is PS3's fourth week and Wii's XXth.
Your chart is a week old.
TheDrowningMan
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Ynos Yrros said:
People don't need to buy another game immediately. Other than that, Wii software has done pretty decently in general. Sonic spent a couple of weeks in the top 5, Zelda spent a period bouncing out and then back to the top 20. Excite Truck climbed to the top 20. Wario Ware - like Sonic - peaked at #2.
You saw the info that was taken. Indeed, had that chart become a top 6, Wario Ware would have been next. So 4-2 Wii in this week's chart, despite the console's most popular game arriving with the system itself.
And of course PS3 sold faster at launch - there were more available. Even now, it's available in every single shop which stocks the things, as opposed to the constantly sold and far more demanded Wii - which, of course, easily outsold it over Easter. Please note that retailers were slashing £25 from the PS3's price within 10 days of its release.