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[Pureauthor]

They've been desperate since page 3.

I was under the impression that people on the losing side were usually the deseprate ones... and whatever else the Nintendo fans are, they aren't on the losing side right now.

It's obvious you never heard of foreplay guys...all your gf's are belong to me!

Psh, if you're too weak to go all out now and still be charged up come Thursday, then we don't need your participation.

 

[Meier]

Ah, good thing you edited out that previous display of idiocy that you do so well.

I've never even seen your name. :lol I just didn't want my thoughts to be taken as a flame, so I edited it. I think everyone knows that Sony has been cooking the sold figure books for a loooooong time.

 

[fortified_concept]

This close to launch though?

If it maintains that for months, that's awesome.

But like I said, we can't possibly gauge anything right now. No one is saying 127k per week is bad, but its not the greatest near launch for something so available.

Again, if they can keep at 127k a week indefenitley, that would be amazing.

I don't think any console ever reached these numbers in spring-summer.

 

[Shiggy]

thats Nintendo's problem, not Sonys... why are they not producing more Wii's?
Not to mention that Sony beat Wii's Christmas numbers in Europe, in April.

So what? It's more important to see the drop and the coming weeks. Would you say that PS3 will have the same installed base in Europe as Wii (in the same period) in 3 months?

Well, the problem is that there is demand all over the world for the Wii, that's something Sony really doesn't have.

Why do you always have to call others Wiitards, fanboys and so on?

 

[Doom_Bringer]

*YAWN*

 

[Vagabundo]

I think Sony would like Nintendo's problem, tbh.

:lol too true!! :lol

 

[chibcicylist]

Dammit guys, stop preejaculating. Save it. 55 hours to go or so.

Theres this little technique to help you last longer: you go until you feel like exploding, then you stop immediately and let the everything go soft, not even touching a thing. You then get tense up again and give it another go then abruptly stop. Do it as much as you are capable and the final release should be all kinds of awesome.

 

[fortified_concept]

nm I shouldn't have come back to this thread

 

[Kosma]

Dammit guys, stop preejaculating. Save it. 55 hours to go or so.

Theres this little technique to help you last longer: you go until you feel like exploding, then you stop immediately and let the everything go soft, not even touching a thing. You then get tense up again and give it another go then abruptly stop. Do it as much as you are capable and the final release should be all kinds of awesome.

Thursday.

Tantra.

Believe.

 

[Pureauthor]

Yes because selling 800,000 units in three weeks puts Sony on the losing side.

not enough rollseyes in the world...

I fail to see a part where I implied in the least way that Sony was on the losing side.

In fact, I fail to see a part where I implied that there was a losing side.

 

[Mojovonio]

Thursday.

Tantra.

Believe.

yeah, i'm getting blue balls already.

 

[Vagabundo]

I fail to see a part where I implied in the least way that Sony was on the losing side.

In fact, I fail to see a part where I implied that there was a losing side.

We all know who the losers are

Spoiler

Only joking kids:lol

 

[RubberJohnny]

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

WOW. Way to completely and wilfully ignore the parts of the post that disagree with your way of thinking, whilst agreeing with Parls points. It appears that nothing is going to get past your defensive wall. See you NPD day - you betted on >180,000 units - right?

 

[Oblivion]

Wow, 800k units? Pretty damn impressive if true...

Said Sony

...oh.

 

[spwolf]

So what? It's more important to see the drop and the coming weeks. Would you say that PS3 will have the same installed base in Europe as Wii (in the same period) in 3 months?

Well, the problem is that there is demand all over the world for the Wii, that's something Sony really doesn't have.

Why do you always have to call others Wiitards, fanboys and so on?

because you have to storm every Sony thread with your own psychological issues.
You need to work it out yourselves, and not troll on every Sony thread that exist.
Nobody cares that you guys got hit on during the GC days.

and YES, we know Wii sells great. Nobody is saying that it doesnt. It sells wonderfully. Why do you have to be so defensive if PS3 sells well? Beyond me.

At the same time, PS3 sells great in Europe, and it outsold all of the consoles launch by wide margin. We are also witnessing how PS3 software sells really well as well.

There is this mystical drop that is being predicted from day 1, yet it continues selling pretty darn good. I suggest that you talk about it when it actually happens, not when Sony sells 800,000 consoles in 3 weeks. :lol

 

[chibcicylist]

There is this mystical drop that is being predicted from day 1, yet it continues selling pretty darn good. I suggest that you talk about it when it actually happens, not when Sony sells 800,000 consoles in 3 weeks. :lol

And therein lies the problem.

But we should probably let the thread die.

RIP thread.

 

[Shiggy]

because you have to storm every Sony thread with your own psychological issues.
You need to work it out yourselves, and not troll on every Sony thread that exist.
Nobody cares that you guys got hit on during the GC days.

This attempt was quite poor, it just proves your bias.

and YES, we know Wii sells great. Nobody is saying that it doesnt. It sells wonderfully. Why do you have to be so defensive if PS3 sells well? Beyond me.

Euhh...it was you who was talking about Wii with starting the comparision, you seem to forget things quite easy...

At the same time, PS3 sells great in Europe, and it outsold all of the consoles launch by wide margin. We are also witnessing how PS3 software sells really well as well.

There is this mystical drop that is being predicted from day 1, yet it continues selling pretty darn good. I suggest that you talk about it when it actually happens, not when Sony sells 800,000 consoles in 3 weeks. :lol

Well, the drop was already there and that's what we're talking about. I really don't know why you're the only one who should be allowed to do PS3 - Wii comparisions, so why not compare the new data in which the Wii sales are better, since the PS3 sales dropped heavily.

 

[Starchasing]

At the same time, PS3 sells great in Europe, and it outsold all of the consoles launch by wide margin. We are also witnessing how PS3 software sells really well as well.

There is this mystical drop that is being predicted from day 1, yet it continues selling pretty darn good. I suggest that you talk about it when it actually happens, not when Sony sells 800,000 consoles in 3 weeks. :lol

People talk about how the sales are slowing down fast but you keep talking talking about launch. Sales will slow even more and then when popular games launch you will se peaks of sales which will dissapear soon. Thats what has happened before and probably will happen again .

 

[Mustaphadamus]

IIRC, Singapore is ranked 12th.

The really high countries are all European.



OH SNAP

I have my first degree in international economics so I enjoy reading up on whats going on in the world as it relates to economics from time to time. I was reading a few reports and all say with in 10 years the worlds top economies will be in Asia. The top one will be *drum roll* Vietnam :S what the eff!

Mayor Bloomberg had this economic think tank look at the long term viability of NYC. They said with in ten years NYC will no longer be the financial capital of the world. That will shift to Hong Kong, Dubai and London.

Interesting times we live in, indeed.

 

[spwolf]

People talk about how the sales are slowing down fast but you keep talking talking about launch. Sales will slow even more and then when popular games launch you will se peaks of sales which will dissapear soon. Thats what has happened before and probably will happen again .

lol, we are talking about first 3 weeks of sales, ehm, record breaking 3 weeks of sales.
We are not talking about something that happened 5 years ago, it is 800k in 3 weeks.

:lol

 

[Chiggs]

So can this news be trusted? If so, it's pretty impressive for Sony.

 

[Parl]

wow

success!

Bububububu PS3 stopped selling in Europe after the rich people bought the first 600,000 units. This news must be incorrect.

Success!

Europe is still Sony land.

I think it may be signs of a minor market shift, with europe moving more towards sony and japan moving more towards nintendo.

But I think we all know the important profit thing is software, although it appears sony isn't actually losing any money with people buying the weaker european ps3 for 850 US Dollar. Just think of if THATS what the PS3 had cost here. Good god.

Looks like there are more rich people in Europe than everybody thought.

That's really good, I wouldn't have thought that it would have launched so well. If they can keep up a good pace they are looking very strong in Europe (yet again).

so that puts the ps3 at not quite 3 million worldwide now (incl. the March npd)?

Do we know how many they sold in Australia?

in fact let's go further: Wii has been out five times longer at roughly one third the price and has only sold twice as much.

Europe really is Sonyland.

The spinning has begun!

Start your engines... GO!

When a console that is out for 4+ months has outsold a console that is out for 3 weeks only by 2x, trying to spin that to look bad for PS3 is kinda desperate. Desperate also is to try to spin the fact that PS3 sold 800,000 units in 3 weeks (which is possibly the biggest number on a console launch ever in Europe) to something negative.

Having said that, it was quite obvious to me that Wii will be tough competition for Sony in Europe since Sony announced the PS3 delay, so it's not really a surprise that Wii is selling so good.

Oh please tell us now it's our fault that the usual anti-Sony trolls are trying to spin the sale of 800,000 units in three weeks into a negative story.

Ive seen you post loads of times and your spin is always the same but im sorry to tell you the ps3 isnt selling poorly in europe.

This sales debate is all about interpretation and expectations. For instance Sony Euro CEO David Reeves expected better sales at launch, when he said: “The first five million people are going to buy it, whatever it is, even if it didn’t have games.” We know they are not quite there yet, so I don't think Sony would qualify PS3 success as fantastic. But at least it shows Europe is more likely to embrace the PS3 this year than Japan.

YAH! GO SONY!

Man, that's a lot of stress out of my day! Now that I know they're doing well in a territory, I can sleep at night.

Except it's a bunch of fuzzy math that doesnt proove anything, very few facts and a bunch of ifs buts and maybes, sorry you'll have to try harder.

There aren't enough rollseyes in the world for some posts in this thread. I'm out of here before the trolls start pissing me off with their stupid wishful thinking.

PS3 and Wii selling great in Europe.

Another region where 360 is all but dead after the competition arrives and gamers have a choice.

Still on track to hit their goal of 1M sold by the end of April. Cry bitter salty tears.

800,000 sold / 1,000,000 shipped is a fantastic launch and should force Nintendo & Microsoft into more agressive next gen marketing. Fantastic!! (although DS>all IMHO)

That's definitely some great news.
It beat out the Wii's 1st month/3 weeks/whatever sales by 100k, so I'm also pretty sure it did better than the X-Box 360's 1st month/3 weeks/whatever.
A good start, and I think they may be able to keep it up throughout the year, though not quite as strong.

lol... getting desperate I see.... and why I we discussing Wii in Sony thread again?

It's impossible to spin this. This is immeasurably good news for Sony. It's amazing how Europeans surpassed what Americans bought in two months in less than a month.

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

They've been desperate since page 3. Sony threads always attract the worse fanboys

Spoiler

that is the anti-Sony imports from the usual shit forums

I said "wow" at the denial, spin, ignorance, baseless comments, misunderstanding, lack of knowledge and haste in this topic. Many who I quoted have innocently been mislead. Some of what people have said in these quotes are true, but have conveniently neglected to point out that sales now suck.

Facts: (maybe )

- PS3 sold 600,000 on the week of launch. This is a brilliant sales figure, IMHO. I expected it, many others did too, but often not quite to the degree of 600,000. It broke records easily.

- After week 3, PS3 sales are approaching 800,000. (My estimate is 770,000, the margin for reasonable error is rather tiny). 800,000 for a 3 or 4 week period is a great number. Might be record. In and of itself, 800,000 is great for a 3 or 4 week launch period. This was almost all due to the opening week however.

- PS3 sold 200,000 for the 2 or 3 weeks after launch combined. The system isn't supply constrained. Only 200,000 people wanted to purchase a PlayStation 3 for the 2 or 3 weeks following launch week.

- On the third week, THIRD WEEK, PS3 sold 17,000 in UK, and based on 27.5% of European PS3 hardware being UK on launch week, that's 61,818 for the whole of Europe... on the THIRD WEEK.

- We have absolutely no proof or hard figures for the the 4th week (last week). If PS3's trend continued - where it was dropping like a rock, but that rock dropped at a less and less fast proportion each week - then sales for Europe on its 4th on sale (last week) were just 37,221. Again, this is just speculation.



The so-called spinners in this thread are simply stating 600,000 is brilliant and that 108,000 week after wasn't, then 17,000 in UK week after that wasn't good either.

 

[Forsete]

PS3 is a great system which deserves good sales. So Im happy its doing well.

 

[Mojovonio]

I said "wow" at the denial, spin, ignorance, baseless comments, misunderstanding, lack of knowledge and haste in this topic. Many who I quoted have innocently been mislead. Some of what people have said in these quotes are true, but have conveniently neglected to point out that sales now suck.

Facts: (maybe )

- PS3 sold 600,000 on the week of launch. This is a brilliant sales figure, IMHO. I expected it, many others did too, but often not quite to the degree of 600,000. It broke records easily.

- After week 3, PS3 sales are approaching 800,000. (My estimate is 770,000, the margin for reasonable error is rather tiny). 800,000 for a 3 or 4 week period is a great number. Might be record. In and of itself, 800,000 is great for a 3 or 4 week launch period. This was almost all due to the opening week however.

- PS3 sold 200,000 for the 2 or 3 weeks after launch combined. The system isn't supply constrained. Only 200,000 people wanted to purchase a PlayStation 3 for the 2 or 3 weeks following launch week.

- On the third week, THIRD WEEK, PS3 sold 17,000 in UK, and based on 27.5% of European PS3 hardware being UK on launch week, that's 61,818 for the whole of Europe... on the THIRD WEEK.

- We have absolutely no proof or hard figures for the the 4th week (last week). If PS3's trend continued - where it was dropping like a rock, but that rock dropped at a less and less fast proportion each week - then sales for Europe on its 4th on sale (last week) were just 37,221. Again, this is just speculation.



The so-called spinners in this thread are simply stating 600,000 is brilliant and that 108,000 week after wasn't, then 17,000 in UK week after that wasn't good either.

Why did you quote me?

 

[Parl]

lol, we are talking about first 3 weeks of sales, ehm, record breaking 3 weeks of sales.
We are not talking about something that happened 5 years ago, it is 800k in 3 weeks.

:lol

So if a console sells 3 million on day one, then stops selling altogether for the following 2 months. You'll say "3 million in 2 months, recording breaking" without having any concern for the fact it will always be at 3 million consoles sold.

People are acting like this is proof that PS3 in Europe will not suffer (or is not suffering) the same fate it has in the rest of the world so far. To those that have taken notice, the opposite is true.

Wow, I love Sales-Age way too much.

 

[Parl]

Why did you quote me?

Many who I quoted have innocently been mislead. Some of what people have said in these quotes are true, but have conveniently neglected to point out that sales now suck.

Something like that. You're innocent. But topic of 800,000 clearly signals a discussion of PS3's trouble after success. Success for PS3 in Europe is a thing of the past. Sony need to do something in order to bring some life back to the thing in the future in Europe.

 

[Mojovonio]

Something like that.

my post was sarcastic.

 

[Parl]

my post was sarcastic.

Sorry, I didn't read GAF for dummies.

 

[Ynos Yrros]

So PS3 sold in 3 weeks half of what Wii sold in 4 months? Quite nice.

 

[Shake Appeal]

Parl wants to believe.

 

[Pureauthor]

Sorry, I didn't read GAF for dummies.

He's a Junior Member. We have to assume the worst.

Spoiler

Yeah, I know, I know. But you screwed up, and THAT'S why you're a Junior Member now.

 

[hadareud]

boooooh! I was quoted.


I still stand by what I said though, I didn't think they would sell as many during launch.

 

[Mojovonio]

Sorry, I didn't read GAF for dummies.

You really thoguht I was having trouble sleeping at night?

bah, i couldn't be bothered either way.

 

[antiloop]

Solid number.

 

[mclem]

because you have to storm every Sony thread with your own psychological issues.
You need to work it out yourselves, and not troll on every Sony thread that exist.
Nobody cares that you guys got hit on during the GC days.

I feel that's unfair. I personally, and I suspect a number of others here, are solely here to debate the numbers and point out parallels to the past if they exist. That's the heart of Sales-Age for me.

and YES, we know Wii sells great. Nobody is saying that it doesnt. It sells wonderfully. Why do you have to be so defensive if PS3 sells well? Beyond me.

Because I personally believe that the PS3 is not selling as well as you do; I believe its sales are being misrepresented by people who aren't taking into account all the facts.

At the same time, PS3 sells great in Europe, and it outsold all of the consoles launch by wide margin.

All of which were supply constrained.
Yes, I know, 'Not Sony's Problem'. It's utterly irrelevant whose so-called 'problem' it is, what matters is that it's still an extremely important datapoint when discussing the nature of the sales objectively. Ignoring this fact is oversimplifying matters and misrepresenting the situation.

We are also witnessing how PS3 software sells really well as well.

I have to concede, I don't know much about the numbers for software sales. I'm steering clear of that one due to ignorance.

There is this mystical drop that is being predicted from day 1, yet it continues selling pretty darn good. I suggest that you talk about it when it actually happens, not when Sony sells 800,000 consoles in 3 weeks. :lol

I believe the bulk of the drop has already occurred; and indeed, that it occurred in the very first week - before the initial sales data had been released. The initial demand was met, which is the economic reason for the drop. While we'll never get them, I'd be curious to see day-by-day sales for the first two weeks to see if my suspicion is correct.

 

[radeonxt]

This is not true at all.

They said they had sold 100.000 units in Spain and it is FALSE, the have sold nearly 45.000/65.000, but not 100.000 as the PR says. But, it is normal in sony to announce only distributed=Sold... :lol

 

[marc^o^]

Parl, don't you think Sony is more likely to sell more PS3 in Europe than in Japan this year, knowing they will have sold more PS3 in a month there, than in 5 months in Japan?

 

[chibcicylist]

This is not true at all.

They said they had sold 100.000 units in Spain and it is FALSE, the have sold nearly 45.000/65.000, but not 100.000 as the PR says. But, it is normal in sony to announce only distributed=Sold... :lol

you need to put out or get out.

Source?

 

[Vagabundo]

These numbers have to be salty becuase of the source.

But to compare them to the Wii is a little bit FUDdy as the Wii has been constraned and Sony was hoarding for six months to blow the load in one go (launch).

However, looks like PS3 in the EU is tracking the US and JP steady decline in sales (but we only have ropey figures from dodgy sources for the EU).

 

[mckmas8808]

So PS3 sold in 3 weeks half of what Wii sold in 4 months? Quite nice.

I don't think that's a accurate statement.

 

[radeonxt]

you need to put out or get out.

Source?

i'm trying to find it in order to remember if it was 65.000 or 45.000 but Not 100.000 sold.

 

[kammy]

Ok so going by these numbers here is a rough breakdown of the weeks in Europe AND the UK.

UK
first week- 150,000 (1/4th the EU market)
second week - 27,000( from 82% UK drop report)
third week -17k (from leaked numbers)

Europe(without UK)
First Week - 450,000
Second Week - 81,000
Third Week - 25,000

Totals
First weekend - 650,000 (or was it week?)
Second Week - ~108,000,
Third week - ~42,000
Total - 800,000

This is assuming the report only goes for the first 3 weeks. If it counts last week too, well going by my numbers the PS3 sold 0 last week.

Fun facts going off of these numbers and IF trend holds(no software spikes):

It sold 650,000 at launch, and only 150,000 since
It dropped ~84% its second week
It dropped ~62% its third week
If trend continues th % it drops by week to week slows down by 18 per week
If trend continues it will sell:
24k its 4th week
18K its 5th week
15k its 6th week
12k its 7th week where it wil stabilize between 12k-15k

It will take 14 weeks from the end of this report to cross 1 million

SPIN THOSE NUMBERS MCFLY!!11

 

[bud]

This is assuming the report only goes for the first 3 weeks. If it counts last week too, well going by my numbers the PS3 sold 0 last week.

KING OF POSTS

A+ WOULD READ AGAIN

 

[Enron]

That's shipped not sold. Store where I work has only sold 1 unit since launch, we still have around 10 units over from 3 weeks ago. Each store here in the Netherlands has many units left.

Wii on the other hand has been sold out in the chain where I work since December (45 stores nation wide) and is not available in any other store.

Uh, no. European PS3 sales numbers ever since launch have been split as to Shipped/Sold.

They sold 650k in the first week, and had well over 1 million units shipped.

Now you are trying to tell me that there are only 800k shipped?

:lol

 

[tanasten]

This is not true at all.

They said they had sold 100.000 units in Spain and it is FALSE, the have sold nearly 45.000/65.000, but not 100.000 as the PR says. But, it is normal in sony to announce only distributed=Sold... :lol

We're you get the numbers? I mean, soy de Barna, y nunca me entero de estas cosas. :lol

 

[Riddick]

I said "wow" at the denial, spin, ignorance, baseless comments, misunderstanding, lack of knowledge and haste in this topic. Many who I quoted have innocently been mislead. Some of what people have said in these quotes are true, but have conveniently neglected to point out that sales now suck.

Facts: (maybe )

- PS3 sold 600,000 on the week of launch. This is a brilliant sales figure, IMHO. I expected it, many others did too, but often not quite to the degree of 600,000. It broke records easily.

- After week 3, PS3 sales are approaching 800,000. (My estimate is 770,000, the margin for reasonable error is rather tiny). 800,000 for a 3 or 4 week period is a great number. Might be record. In and of itself, 800,000 is great for a 3 or 4 week launch period. This was almost all due to the opening week however.

- PS3 sold 200,000 for the 2 or 3 weeks after launch combined. The system isn't supply constrained. Only 200,000 people wanted to purchase a PlayStation 3 for the 2 or 3 weeks following launch week.

- On the third week, THIRD WEEK, PS3 sold 17,000 in UK, and based on 27.5% of European PS3 hardware being UK on launch week, that's 61,818 for the whole of Europe... on the THIRD WEEK.

- We have absolutely no proof or hard figures for the the 4th week (last week). If PS3's trend continued - where it was dropping like a rock, but that rock dropped at a less and less fast proportion each week - then sales for Europe on its 4th on sale (last week) were just 37,221. Again, this is just speculation.



The so-called spinners in this thread are simply stating 600,000 is brilliant and that 108,000 week after wasn't, then 17,000 in UK week after that wasn't good either.

HOLY ****ING CRAP even for the worst troll this is absolutely pathetic.

 

[Pureauthor]

HOLY ****ING CRAP even for the worst troll this is absolutely pathetic.

If you're going to disagree with something, show evidence to support your own viewpoint, or you won't win arguments.

 

[Y2Kev]

If I ever own gaf, sales threads would be banned. Y'all better hope I don't become a billionaire tomorrow.

 

[Jokeropia]

Check out this poor bastard, he already sold 32 PS3's at a loss and has many more to go

OMG :lol

 

[doicare]

the maths for the first 3 weeks seems spot on, if you believe the numbers Sony issued/mentioned. After that everything is speculation, but it seems reasonable to not expect them to keep the same pace.

Unless you have reason to believe otherwise of course.

Yes thats what im saying the fuzzy math is people predicting the ps3 will continue to decline in sales to a level that makes them feel better about their console of choice.