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[Parl]

That's a possibility.

But Sony can spin anything anyways.

Well, they've managed to persuade Sony fanboys and girls that ~170,000 for the two weeks following launch is good/excellent. I said "wow".

 

[GhaleonEB]

Question is, shipped or really sold?

We all know sony ever talks about shipped as sold...

Most likely sold. IIRC, they shipped a million at launch.

 

[Mustaphadamus]

You know when liberals complain about life in America and conservatives brag about how quality of life here is higher than anywhere else in the world?

according to the UN canada has one of the highest standards of living as far as quality of life is concerned. Generally the argument that America is the best place in the world comes from people who have lived sheltered lives.

 

[Mojovonio]

Is this one of the only system launches where the system is in full supply?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Is this one of the only system launches where the system is in full supply?

The only one IIRC

 

[Starchasing]

It was in the ChartTrack info actually - check the Euro sales thread for details...

And in Paris 2 weekends ago I found no Wii whatsoever, nor in London. The reports of Wii in Europe stores are either the exception or lies...

I live in the Canary Islands and there is plenty of supply here, you can see Wii in all stores. I think the reason why is because its more expensive to ship here so they usually make less shipments with more units per shipment. So if your planning a vacation here remember that you can buy all the Wii you want

 

[chibcicylist]

according to the UN canada has one of the highest standards of living as far as quality of life is concerned. Generally the argument that America is the best place in the world comes from people who have lived sheltered lives.

lol, UN communist big government foreigners

 

[Mojovonio]

The only one IIRC

So how can we know a steep drop like this wouldn't be a norm for a system which is readily available at launch?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

So how can we know a steep drop like this wouldn't be a norm for a system which is readily available at launch?

We don't know, all we can do is speculate with the others. However, with the way the numbers have gone since launch, it's very clear that they satisfied launch demand in a very big way. Now its marketing's job to sell the console.

 

[Pureauthor]

according to the UN canada has one of the highest standards of living as far as quality of life is concerned. Generally the argument that America is the best place in the world comes from people who have lived sheltered lives.

IIRC, Singapore is ranked 12th.

The really high countries are all European.

Generalising to the entire country = bad.

Generalising to the entire continent = fine.

OH SNAP

 

[Ceb]

I don't even know what that means. Let me ask you this. Selling 600k in launch week is inarguably excellent. I suspect we'll agree on that. How would you describe selling less than 1/3 that in the following two weeks combined? I described it as a "precipitous drop", though a number of other terms work. I'm not trying to "make something", just observing a trend. I'm interested to see what it stablizes at, as you can't judge squat about that trend, yet. But it's in line with the drops in other territories. Do you really want to argue that? It seems you're the one that's all worked up about this, for some reason.

I'm just saying that the drop in sales was expected by most sane people. Calling it "precipitous" makes it sound like it came as a shock almost. Perhaps I'm just misinterpreting you, but your post history suggests otherwise.

 

[Busaiku]

That's definitely some great news.
It beat out the Wii's 1st month/3 weeks/whatever sales by 100k, so I'm also pretty sure it did better than the X-Box 360's 1st month/3 weeks/whatever.
A good start, and I think they may be able to keep it up throughout the year, though not quite as strong.

 

[Haunted]

Check out this poor bastard, he already sold 32 PS3's at a loss and has many more to go

Is he a scalper? If so, good job, gents. If not... poor bastard.

IIRC, Singapore is ranked 12th.

The really high countries are all European.

You are correct.

OH SNAP

:lol

 

[Koren]

The only one IIRC

I'm not sure there was really supply-problems at launch two or three generations ago. In fact, I've always walked in stores to buy consoles at launch in the past, and never had a problem with this...

 

[Parl]

So how can we know a steep drop like this wouldn't be a norm for a system which is readily available at launch?

We don't, necessarily. However, despite the opening week's sales, current sales rates are poor and still declining. The first week could've sold 600,000, 800,000, 127,000, 48, 1 billion, anything, and it wouldn't change the fact that current sales rates are low.

Current sales rates are much more important for PS3's long-term success than its sales in its opening week. On the grand scheme, opening week sales mean very little if you consider that current sales rates are low.

The fact that "600,000 in opening week" is news worthy and talked about like its significant (which it most certainly was, I concur) and the current reality of PS3 hardware sales isn't, reveals the general bias or misunderstanding on Sales-Age.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I'm just saying that the drop in sales was expected by most sane people. Calling it "precipitous" makes it sound like it came as a shock almost. Perhaps I'm just misinterpreting you, but your post history suggests otherwise.

Of course a drop was expected by most sane people. Sales tend to drop after launch. But I think the degree of drop is large, and most "sane people" seem to agree with that. But as I said, we don't know where it will stablize at. So I'm more interested in the next two months than the past two weeks. But none the less, you're in some deep, deep denial going by your comments.

Well, they've managed to persuade Sony fanboys and girls that ~170,000 for the two weeks following launch is good/excellent. I said "wow".

Indeed.

 

[Ceb]

But as I said, we don't know where it will stablize at. So I'm more interested in the next two months than the past two weeks.

I guess we can agree on something.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I'm not sure there was really supply-problems at launch two or three generations ago. In fact, I've always walked in stores to buy consoles at launch in the past, and never had a problem with this...

Well, one could say the Gamecube. There were only 13 of us waiting that fateful Sunday..
For the N64, I got the console but no games as they were sold out. Super NES and NES, my mom had to search far and wide for those.

 

[Mojovonio]

We don't, necessarily. However, despite the opening week's sales, current sales rates are poor and still declining. The first week could've sold 600,000, 800,000, 127,000, 48, 1 billion, anything, and it wouldn't change the fact that current sales rates are low.

Current sales rates are much more important for PS3's long-term success than its sales in its opening week. On the grand scheme, opening week sales mean very little if you consider that current sales rates are low.

The fact that "600,000 in opening week" is news worthy and talked about like its significant (which it most certainly was, I concur) and the current reality of PS3 hardware sales isn't, reveals the general bias or misunderstanding on Sales-Age.

Yeah, what you mention seems plausible. We'll have to wait to see what the trend is. If its 127k > every week going onward, then I would agree, it means trouble.

But the PS3 just launched, and in the following months, in my experience anyways, marketing is little to none in that period, as they leave it all to launch hype.

I still think there are too many variables to declare any sort of victory or failure, but I agree, if it stays at 127k per week, something needs to be done.

 

[spwolf]

We don't, necessarily. However, despite the opening week's sales, current sales rates are poor and still declining. The first week could've sold 600,000, 800,000, 127,000, 48, 1 billion, anything, and it wouldn't change the fact that current sales rates are low.

Current sales rates are much more important for PS3's long-term success than its sales in its opening week. On the grand scheme, opening week sales mean very little if you consider that current sales rates are low.

The fact that "600,000 in opening week" is news worthy and talked about like its significant (which it most certainly was, I concur) and the current reality of PS3 hardware sales isn't, reveals the general bias or misunderstanding on Sales-Age.

lol... getting desperate I see.... and why I we discussing Wii in Sony thread again?

 

[spwolf]

Yeah, what you mention seems plausible. We'll have to wait to see what the trend is. If its 127k > every week going onward, then I would agree, it means trouble.

But the PS3 just launched, and in the following months, in my experience anyways, marketing is little to none in that period, as they leave it all to launch hype.

I still think there are too many variables to declare any sort of victory or failure, but I agree, if it stays at 127k per week, something needs to be done.

127k per week would mean it is #1 seller in Europe and that it outsells 360 by 4x.

:lol

In short, doing 127k per week in April means bestest thing ever :lol

 

[Pureauthor]

lol... getting desperate I see.... and why I we discussing Wii in Sony thread again?

If you're going to disagree, offer evidence to the contrary. Arbitrary attacks on the other person's current thought processes aren't going to win you many arguments.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

There are a lot of unknowns that make it tricky to speculate whether or not the UK drop was really bad or just something we would normally see. That said, the PS3 *did* get outsold by a sold-out Wii that week of Chart Track numbers we got, and that's the thing that Sony needs to pay attention to.

 

[Mojovonio]

127k per week would mean it is #1 seller in Europe and that it outsells 360 by 4x.

:lol

In short, doing 127k per week in April means bestest thing ever :lol

did I offend you? I'm sorry.

 

[Rancid Mildew]

It's impossible to spin this. This is immeasurably good news for Sony. It's amazing how Europeans surpassed what Americans bought in two months in less than a month.

 

[Stink]

most online stores will get you a Wii in a week if they allow backorders. Friend of mine got a Wii in 4 days from gameplay.co.uk the other day.

 

[Starchasing]

lol... getting desperate I see.... and why I we discussing Wii in Sony thread again?

Because when you talk about sales it is usefull to compare against products in the same field. It helps you put things in perspective. You can say that PS3 sales are great, but if I were CEO of a company I rather have my products to sell like Wii is selling.

 

[spwolf]

If you're going to disagree, offer evidence to the contrary. Arbitrary attacks on the other person's current thought processes aren't going to win you many arguments.

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

 

[Kosma]

Guys relax this thread is just foreplay.

 

[Mojovonio]

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

wow, you take this shit SERIOUS.

 

[Pureauthor]

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

No one denies that selling 800K in 3/4 weeks is good. It's the selling of 200K in 2/3 weeks that is worrying.

 

[Meier]

If Nintendo could manufacture a few more units, this debate would end. Sony sez, "Not my problem."

 

[Starchasing]

Guys relax this thread is just foreplay.

This thrusday is going to be great If the PS3 tanks id love to see SPwolf there... If the Wii tanks id love to see the Wiiboys there... its going to be fun anyway

 

[e-gamer]

So, are there 3+ million to complete 6 million SOLD by march 2007?

 

[Dali]

I see sony is mixing their product altogether. Use PS3 to promote the blu-ray then use spiderman 3 to (indirectly) promote PS3. I can't wait to see the new bravia series using spiderman 3 font.

Works for MS.

 

[Shiggy]

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

The Wii sold 700.000 units in 3 weeks, but was, contrary to PS3, supply constrained.

 

[spwolf]

did I offend you? I'm sorry.

if you think selling 127k per week is bad, in Europe alone, then you offended yourself :lol

there is no way PS3 will sell at 127k per week in Europe, in "normal" months.. 50-70k would be very successful for them.

 

[Mojovonio]

if you think selling 127k per week is bad, in Europe alone, then you offended yourself :lol

there is no way PS3 will sell at 127k per week in Europe, in "normal" months.. 50-70k would be very successful for them.

How can I possibly offend myself?

 

[spwolf]

The Wii sold 700.000 units in 3 weeks, but was, contrary to PS3, supply constrained.

thats Nintendo's problem, not Sonys... why are they not producing more Wii's?
Not to mention that Sony beat Wii's Christmas numbers in Europe, in April.

 

[Ceb]

If Nintendo could manufacture a few more units, this debate would end. Sony sez, "Not my problem."

Ah, good thing you edited out that previous display of idiocy that you do so well.

 

[Gekkonidae]

800,000 shipped or sold?

If Stringer was the one who said it, I'm guessing it's shipped.

 

[spwolf]

This thrusday is going to be great If the PS3 tanks id love to see SPwolf there... If the Wii tanks id love to see the Wiiboys there... its going to be fun anyway

why exactly? If PS3 sales suck, then they suck... If they do well, then they do well.

I just dont understand why Wiitards have to destroy every Sony thread. Was it really that bad in GC times?

 

[fortified_concept]

Do you honestly believe the Wii has only SOLD (aka in consumers hands) only 2x that of the PS3 in Europe? You honestly believe 800,000 consumers have PS3s in their hands currently? If you do.. wow. :lol

It was a nintendo fan that provided that info not me.

lol... getting desperate I see.... and why I we discussing Wii in Sony thread again?

They've been desperate since page 3. Sony threads always attract the worse fanboys

Spoiler

that is the anti-Sony imports from the usual shit forums

800,000 shipped or sold?

If Stringer was the one who said it, I'm guessing it's shipped.

Sold, it's sold. Shipped is more than 1 million.

And Mojovonio, man, if PS3 sold 127,000 per week that would be more than 500,000 per month (unless I misunderstood you). That's a bit too much don't you think?

 

[Mojovonio]

why exactly? If PS3 sales suck, then they suck... If they do well, then they do well.

I just dont understand why Wiitards have to destroy every Sony thread. Was it really that bad in GC times?

 

[Vagabundo]

sure, you guys are flaming all of the sony threads... every time they come out.

Fact is that PS3 outsold all of the consoles in its launch period... rest is FUD. PS3 sold 800,000+ in 3 weeks, and Wii sold 700,000+ in a month.

Spouting this news "bite" without putting it in context is FUD. It is something that you can print on a T-shirt and then go around beating your chest.

 

[Parl]

127k per week would mean it is #1 seller in Europe and that it outsells 360 by 4x.

:lol

In short, doing 127k per week in April means bestest thing ever :lol

Erm, but it's not actually doing that. It did less than that THE WEEK AFTER LAUNCH, my friend. And then did significantly less than that the week after, and then less the week after that, and so on. Anyway, I'm SOOO glad you entered this thread, spwolf. You're great to argue with.

 

[Haunted]

I'm glad I bailed out of this thread. Some very emotional people in here.

 

[Mojovonio]

It was a nintendo fan that provided that info not me.



They've been desperate since page 3. Sony threads always atract the worse fanboys (that is the anti-Sony imports from the usual shit forums)

And Mojovonio, man, if PS3 sold 127,000 per week that would be more than 500,000 per month. That's a bit too much don't you think?

This close to launch though?

If it maintains that for months, that's awesome.

But like I said, we can't possibly gauge anything right now. No one is saying 127k per week is bad, but its not the greatest near launch for something so available.

Again, if they can keep at 127k a week indefenitley, that would be amazing.

 

[chibcicylist]

thats Nintendo's problem, not Sonys... why are they not producing more Wii's?
Not to mention that Sony beat Wii's Christmas numbers in Europe, in April.

I think Sony would like Nintendo's problem, tbh.

 

[Kosma]

It's obvious you never heard of foreplay guys...all your gf's are belong to me! :lol