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A la Super Size Me, man drinks 10 Cokes per day and documents the results.

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backslashbunny said:
...uh

........I mean, I personally do a low processed carb, high protein/fat diet myself. So it's not that that diet is bad, it's the bolded part that doesn't make sense.

Of course calling someone names doesn't make people lose weight? But counting calories and exercise DOES work for 95% of the people (barring those with actual metabolic / body problems).

There's no magic, fix-all pill/easy solution. That's not how life is.
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Counting calories doesn't work because the body doesn't treat each calorie the same way. The reason I really like the low carb/high fat diet is because it really does make me eat less, but leaves me a lot more satisfied and a lot less tempted to cheat and eat dumb things. Even when I count calories, I am eating less calories compared to before.

As for the exercise part, I really don't like recommending it to people who are fat. They try it, their heart isn't into it and they have a miserable time and they hate it. They quit and they think of themselves as weak failures because they can't devote an hour of their life everyday in walking on the treadmill.

Rightly so because it's boring as fuck. It can work for some but more realistically, I had a lot more luck with weight lifting. I actually like weight lifting, and I look at exercising as a joy rather than a chore or a task now. But I never wanted to do weightlifting until I lost some weight the harsh way, and I was absolutely miserable for weeks and months. I've lost a great deal (50 lbs) but I stalled out for two years now, and so far it seems this method is leading me down a better path. It's very true when people say that a bad diet can't be out-exercised, but I think it's even more true that one doesn't need exercise to lose weight. It'll make me feel great and be healthier, but it was something I had to want to do.

I mean you're right, there's no easy fix all solutions. Low carb and high fat I find is something that's socially very hard to cope with, and I'm only blustering through because of my confidence and because I'm very comfortable with the reasoning and the science behind it but I find it a lot easier than traditional "common sense". Life isn't about easy solutions, but fighting through fat loss with incredibly stacked odds and methods will in most cases, lead to heartbreak and waste.

lmao

True, insulting people does not work. But the rest of your post is bullshit.
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I'm glad you think it is.

A Fish Aficionado said:
You do realize he's a quack?
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Neither articles mention insulin or hormones. I don't care if these two wieners think he's a quack. I don't see any proper arguments against what he's saying being formulated in either of those two articles.
 
I wish Coke was healthy, because I fucking love it. I restrict myself to two cans a day, though I know that's a lot still.

I look forward to the cans like an addiction. It's liquid gold.

These results are no surprise.
 
FinKL said:
A better test would be 10 Diet Cokes and see if the spike in insulin does indeed make you fat. This is not surprising at all.
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I actually lost a lot of weight by switching to diet soda back when I needed to lose a lot of weight initially.
 
Themacabre said:
If your wife wants to lose weight and isn't, then that means she's eating too many calories. Not too many calories for you, or me maybe, but for her 100% guaranteed. Exercise is important for a variety of reasons, but it's actually pretty bad for losing weight. Your body is very efficient, so it's much better to simply not consume those extra calories in the first place.
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Don't know about that. My girlfriend got really series about losing weight over half a year ago. She goes to the gym almost every day, has a personal trainer, and counts calories. Despite it all, there have been weeks where there has been no weight loss. A lot of times she's calorie deficient and falls well below the 2,000 calorie a day guideline.
 
bsod said:
Don't know about that. My girlfriend got really series about losing weight over half a year ago. She goes to the gym almost every day, has a personal trainer, and counts calories. Despite it all, there have been weeks where there has been no weight loss. A lot of times she's calorie deficient and falls well below the 2,000 calorie a day guideline.
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Factoring for lean mass gain?
Need to do a body fat check every once in a while.
 
I one day decided to stop drinking Coke. End up an entire year without it, did notice any difference in weight, healthy or look. So I just resume drinking it.
 
It just looks like the guy sucked in his gut in the first pic. Not as dramatic as I had envisioned really.
 
backslashbunny said:
uh huh.

You really believe that bullshit? Because, that's what it is.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be snarky or mean, but that kind of fatlogic, especially in the face of 70% of American adults being overweight, is especially grating. I can take this to PM if you actually wanna have a discussion about it, but if you don't it's fine.
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Me and my roommate ate the same thing for months (mainly junk). I gained 16 pounds and he did not add any weight. I was more active too... That guy just can't get fat.
 
Curious to see his dental health after this stunt.

I honestly think I would rather have mcdonalds every day over having 10 cans of coca cola a day. It'd probably be more "healthy", too.
 
Its not that bad. I mean I don't do it as much as that guy, but I don't drink coffee and this is my only caffeine source so I drink a crap ton sometimes. Usually when school gets super difficult. I think I've definitely drank over 10 cans before.
And I'm still slightly underweight somehow. Go figure.
 
Only 10, man back when I was drinking soda regularly I was drinking at least 4 cans at a time.
4 around breakfast, 4 with lunch, 4 with dinner, 4+ while gaming or watching stuff at night.
 
backslashbunny said:
So he either is one of the few people that do have an actual, bonafide medical condition...

...or he was eating less than you, eating the same but needed more calories than you do to survive, or was more active than you.

People using flawed, biased anecdotes as evidence for a lie are part of the problem.
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There are plenty of people who are constitutionally thin. In fact, there have been experiments showing just such. There have been prison overfeeding experiments in which every calorie was tracked. In these experiments, lean prisoners ate several thousand calories per day and put on way less weight than expected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Rv8JnFgw4

There was another experiment that was on the BBC in which several naturally skinny people were housed and had to overeat way above their typical kcal intake. Again, many struggled to put on weight, they put on far less than would be expected by standard calories in/calories out formulas. One guy even pretty much only put on muscle mass, without any exercise. And all the participants effortlessly lost the weight in a few weeks at the conclusion of the experiment, which is the opposite of what happens in overweight/obese people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAQr77QMJiw

Finally, looking at twin studies in which monozygotic and dizygotic twins are compared, there is a stronger degree of concordance in weight among monozygotic twins.

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=359582

Clearly there is a strong genetic component when it comes to the propensity towards overweight/obesity.
 
I actually find it very concerning that somebody would proudly admit to drinking only four cans of pop a day. If I drank just one every day for a month, I would detest myself.
 
"But," you're probably thinking, "Everyone knows it wouldn't be healthy to drink ten cokes a day, and, besides, I only drink four Cokes a day."

That's true, perhaps you're only drinking four Cokes, but if you add in the two glasses of orange juice, the two sweetened coffee drinks from Starbucks, the 16 ounce Odwalla drink, the two "healthy" brand ice teas, and the $9 fruit smoothie you waited ten minutes in line for, you've made my ten Cokes look like child's play. Maybe it's not all coke, but they're all sugar drinks, and a big percentage of Americans drink at least the sugar equivalent of my ten Cokes.
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I don't drink any of that. Maybe that's why I'm not that fat.

Honestly, i just drink tap water and milk. Not even a gym goer health nut.

I'm glad he documented this, cause all those sugary drinks clearly add up.
 
bsod said:
Don't know about that. My girlfriend got really series about losing weight over half a year ago. She goes to the gym almost every day, has a personal trainer, and counts calories. Despite it all, there have been weeks where there has been no weight loss. A lot of times she's calorie deficient and falls well below the 2,000 calorie a day guideline.
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A lot of times she's calorie deficient
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No, she isn't calorie deficient then. If she was she would lose mass from her body because it has nowhere else to come from. If there was no weight loss then she wasn't calorie deficient.

And you may say, well maybe she was putting on muscle at that time so her weight stayed the same even with all of her work...but that could only happen with a calorie excess, so again, no deficit there either.

I understand the "guideline" and everything, but no matter what the number is it's totally irrelevant and is personal for your girlfriend and only for her and nobody else's calorie guideline number matters. It doesn't matter if it's 1000 or 10,000 calories.

If she had a calorie deficit she would have lost mass from her body, just like a calorie excess adds mass to it.
 
bsod said:
Don't know about that. My girlfriend got really series about losing weight over half a year ago. She goes to the gym almost every day, has a personal trainer, and counts calories. Despite it all, there have been weeks where there has been no weight loss. A lot of times she's calorie deficient and falls well below the 2,000 calorie a day guideline.
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Weeks without weight loss is fine, monthly is usually more telling. She can go to the gym everyday, but it's also important what it is that she does at the gym nearly everyday. Are they intensive enough? Is she only doing the same few exercises over and over again? etc.

You also mentioned that she's struggling to lose weight at 150 pounds; did you mention what her body frame is? How tall is she?
 
I thought the result would be obvious.

Two years ago I stopped eating fast food for lunch at work every day after I moved in with my missus and I've gone from 9 stone to 10.6 stone :/
 
jts said:
Drink water, people.

"but bottled water is a scam!"

Welp. Keep chugging the coke, then. Sugared water that is bad for your health is not a scam at all.
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That shows just how far down the rabbit hole some people go. You don't have to buy bottled water in order to drink water.
 
So Supersize Me was triggered by a McDonald's claim that you could live a normal healthy life on McD's menus alone.


Why exactly did this guy drink 10 cokes a day? Apart from 15 minutes of fame, of course.
 
Collingwood said:
Nope. But my diet wasn't bad to begin with.

September 2013 I made the decision to completely cut Pepsi Max out, and then gradually go back to the gym, which I did towards the end of October 2013. By the time I went back to the gym, the 6 kilos were gone.

So by strictly cutting Pepsi Max, I went from 76kg to 70kg without changing my diet (which wasn't all that bad to begin with) and with no exercise. I still drink Coke and Pepsi Max now because I love them too much, but nowhere NEAR the extent to what I use to.
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Pepsi Max has 0 calories.
 
Freshmaker said:
That shows just how far down the rabbit hole some people go. You don't have to buy bottled water in order to drink water.
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That's true and I mostly only drink tap water.

But on a pinch if I'm thirsty and I want to buy a drink from the supermarket, I'll 1000% more gladly spend money on a water bottle than on a sugared water "soda" bottle.
 
We already knew that. Thanks for the reminder.

10 cans a day sounds like a nightmare, I can't believe he did it for free...
 
I don't drink 10 cans of coke a day nor do I drink 120 ounces of fluid, which he used to justify the 10 cokes. I probably top out around 96 ounces.
 
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