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A minute with demi [FFXII demo]
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MomoPufflet
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I thought offline FFXI... exactly the same shit. Mobs, everything.
MomoPufflet
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My love for the tarutaru is the only reason I still have an account 
A Link to the Past
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So this might just be Final Fantasy XI Offline, in regard to gameplay and overall setup?
Also, demi, that's Nick in your avatar, right?
Also, demi, that's Nick in your avatar, right?
A Link to the Past
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speedpop said:
o.o Wow. He looks just like Nick Frost. o_o;
ZombieSupaStar
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llTll said:
how ff12 plays like ff11
meltpotato
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just finished dqviii last night and was gonnacheck this out tonight...
this does not sound incouraging.
this does not sound incouraging.
or Advent Rising, even though that's more of an awesome action adventure game where you acquire amazing power...rather than a number crunching timesink
but yeah, FFXII is very similar to FFXI. FFXI is the type of game (MMO) that .Hack was aiming to imitate, though .Hack did a poor job
but yeah, FFXII is very similar to FFXI. FFXI is the type of game (MMO) that .Hack was aiming to imitate, though .Hack did a poor job
Well, you see...that's your problem.
.Hack was designed to make single player kiddies feel like they were playing a MMO while FFXI is actually a MMO. From a gameplay standpoint...FFXII is pretty damn close to FFXI.
So you notice the ties between .Hack (aping MMOs) and FFXII (very close to an actual MMO from the same dev). Both games have simularities to MMOs, you pick up on that, but since you never played FFXI, you don't pick up on how similar to FFXII it is.
FFXII is much closer to FFXI than it will ever be to .Hack the same way Painkiller is much closer to Serious Sam than it will ever be to Powerslave.
Understand now? Cause I sure as hell don't
.Hack was designed to make single player kiddies feel like they were playing a MMO while FFXI is actually a MMO. From a gameplay standpoint...FFXII is pretty damn close to FFXI.
So you notice the ties between .Hack (aping MMOs) and FFXII (very close to an actual MMO from the same dev). Both games have simularities to MMOs, you pick up on that, but since you never played FFXI, you don't pick up on how similar to FFXII it is.
FFXII is much closer to FFXI than it will ever be to .Hack the same way Painkiller is much closer to Serious Sam than it will ever be to Powerslave.
Understand now? Cause I sure as hell don't
DarknessTear
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GAF gets worse and worse.
DarknessTear
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demi said:
Where does this fit in with the fact that you're retarded? Oh wait, it does fit in. I guess you're on topic then!
DarknessTear
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I haven't played FFXI either. Surprise!
demi said:
I played the FF11 beta for the 360, and it was one of the most dreadfully boring games I've ever played. I knew going in that WoW was the better game, but I didn't think it would be so by such a vast margin of quality.
Plus it took nearly 3 hours to install.
And if FF12's combat is similar to FF11's, it's not using "FF11's combat system" it's using the "Generic MMO" combat system. FF11's combat is not distinctive at all.
This is just getting stupid.
Final Fantasy XII does not play like .hack. The .hack series features real-time, hack & slash, button-mashy combat, and is a dungeon crawler. While it attempts to mimic an MMO, it does so in atmosphere only, and not in gameplay, so there won't be any comparisons there either. What similarities you're left with are pretty common elements, like the large field maps filled with respawning enemies, and a party of three characters -- that's about the extent of it.
Final Fantasy XII plays more like Final Fantasy XI than anything. While combat is similar to that in FFXI, it builds upon it by allowing you to see your ATB bar, cancel commands mid-charge, queue-up secondary commands, switch between your party members with the D-Pad at any moment, etc... In essence, it's the typical ATB battle system in reverse, with some real-time elements (such as movement) and a Chrono Trigger-style command menu set-up added on-top.
There are also a lot of elements running outside of combat that mimic FFXI/MMOs, such as aggro schemes (on sight, magic usage, etc), linking schemes, EvE schemes (ie: Mandragoras will attack Sleipnirs), etc... Absolutely none of these have been present in a single-player RPG before, and that's what sets it apart. There are also other elements that aren't really active, or available for tweaking, in the demo, like the Zodiac Sign system (from FFT), the Gambit system, and so on, so it'll remain to be seen how well they'll turn out or be utilized.
Given the over-leveled nature of your characters in the demo, though, it doesn't force you to use any of the systems in place... which is a shame, as you get a bunch of retards not even noticing that these things are present. Even people that have played through the demo half a dozen times have looked at me funny when I mention that Bombs will aggro magic usage -- "No they don't, they aggro on sight." they say, which is exactly what prompted me to post my mini-FAQ in the demo impressions thread, as I noticed there were 3-4 pages of such comments. And nevermind Tycho's non-grasping of the demo mechanics over at Penny-Arcade, where he spends his entire rant bitching about the game taking control out of his hands, when in reality, it's giving you more than the typical ATB set-up ever allowed for.
When it comes right down to it, I'm beginning to think that nobody knows how this game plays...
Final Fantasy XII does not play like .hack. The .hack series features real-time, hack & slash, button-mashy combat, and is a dungeon crawler. While it attempts to mimic an MMO, it does so in atmosphere only, and not in gameplay, so there won't be any comparisons there either. What similarities you're left with are pretty common elements, like the large field maps filled with respawning enemies, and a party of three characters -- that's about the extent of it.
Final Fantasy XII plays more like Final Fantasy XI than anything. While combat is similar to that in FFXI, it builds upon it by allowing you to see your ATB bar, cancel commands mid-charge, queue-up secondary commands, switch between your party members with the D-Pad at any moment, etc... In essence, it's the typical ATB battle system in reverse, with some real-time elements (such as movement) and a Chrono Trigger-style command menu set-up added on-top.
There are also a lot of elements running outside of combat that mimic FFXI/MMOs, such as aggro schemes (on sight, magic usage, etc), linking schemes, EvE schemes (ie: Mandragoras will attack Sleipnirs), etc... Absolutely none of these have been present in a single-player RPG before, and that's what sets it apart. There are also other elements that aren't really active, or available for tweaking, in the demo, like the Zodiac Sign system (from FFT), the Gambit system, and so on, so it'll remain to be seen how well they'll turn out or be utilized.
Given the over-leveled nature of your characters in the demo, though, it doesn't force you to use any of the systems in place... which is a shame, as you get a bunch of retards not even noticing that these things are present. Even people that have played through the demo half a dozen times have looked at me funny when I mention that Bombs will aggro magic usage -- "No they don't, they aggro on sight." they say, which is exactly what prompted me to post my mini-FAQ in the demo impressions thread, as I noticed there were 3-4 pages of such comments. And nevermind Tycho's non-grasping of the demo mechanics over at Penny-Arcade, where he spends his entire rant bitching about the game taking control out of his hands, when in reality, it's giving you more than the typical ATB set-up ever allowed for.
When it comes right down to it, I'm beginning to think that nobody knows how this game plays...
Drinky Crow
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Better to admit to playing .hack than FFXI.
DarknessTear
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Yeah you're not the only idiot on these boards. Another surprise?