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[Schattenjäger]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/23/politics/donald-trump-approval-poll/

"Forty-two percent of people in an ABC/Washington Post poll said they approved of Trump's performance so far, while 53% said they disapproved. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll had 40% of respondents saying they approved of Trump and 54% saying they disapproved.
But the bad news wasn't Trump's alone. The ABC/Washington Post poll found significant majorities said both the Democratic and Republican parties were "out of touch" with the concerns of most Americans."


Yea so we need a 3rd party

 

[Compsiox]

Yeah we're pretty much screwed but that's life I guess.

 

[benjipwns]

Future Poll: That Third Party Sucks

 

[Hip Hop]

Yea so we need a 3rd party

We do,


but it will never happen.

 

[OnPoint]

I wish they would all stop partying and get down to business.

There's a country to run.

 

[Squalor]

Forty-one percent of people are idiots.

One percent of people are rich.

 

[benjipwns]

Sixty-seven percent of respondents said the Democratic Party was out of touch, as did 62% for the Republican Party. Less than a third said either party was "in touch."

Trump faired slightly better than the parties, with 58% saying he was out of touch.

They could have maybe asked them what they were out of touch with? All three could be out of touch on different things.

This is fake news. Sad!

 

[ZeoVGM]

Yea so we need a 3rd party

No, we don't.

And you taking "they are all out of touch" and putting it in the same category as the low popularity rating for Trump is incredibly disingenuous.

This is more representative of the ignorant, "Both parties are the same" mentality that helped lead us to a Trump victory.

 

[jack_package_200]

Yea so we need a 3rd party

If that 3rd party involves claiming Wifi is dangerous and paying lipservice to 9/11 truthers and anti vaxxers, I want nothing to do with it.

Also OP, didn't you make this exact thread ages ago?

 

[Beartruck]

I agree. Republicans suck at policy and Democrats suck at playing politics. They're all terrible, just in different ways.

 

[Squalor]

They could have maybe asked them what they were out of touch with? All three could be out of touch on different things.

This is fake news. Sad!

"Democrats are out of touch with e-mails."

 

[guek]

Sixty-seven percent of respondents said the Democratic Party was out of touch, as did 62% for the Republican Party. Less than a third said either party was "in touch."

Trump faired slightly better than the parties, with 58% saying he was out of touch.

Despite Trump's low approval numbers, the poll showed him retaining support among his base, with 96% of people who said they voted for him saying they would do so again. The poll showed only 85% of those who voted for Hillary Clinton would do so again, with most of those who would not saying they would either go with a third-party candidate or not vote at all.

All of that is horribly depressing.

 

[GuessMyUserName]

Yea so we need a 3rd party

You have them. They suck too.

 

[LilWayneSuckz]

No, we don't.

And you taking "they are all out of touch" and putting it in the same category as the low popularity rating for Trump is incredibly disingenuous.

This is more representative of the ignorant, "Both parties are the same" mentality that helped lead us to a Trump victory.

.

 

[Biske]

Future Poll: That Third Party Sucks

This.


The problem is everyone at the end of the day is still some servant boy to some monied interest. Until we fix that, politics is going to be more and more of a shit show.

 

[Got]

No, we don't.

And you taking "they are all out of touch" and putting it in the same category as the low popularity rating for Trump is incredibly disingenuous.

This is more representative of the ignorant, "Both parties are the same" mentality that helped lead us to a Trump victory.

must not know his shtick.

 

[massoluk]

The out-of-touchers probably are still stuck in the glorious past where propping up manufacturing plants solved everything.

So they blamed GOP for not delivering on their promise, and blamed Dem for being realistic

 

[AstroNut325]

Future Poll: That Third Party Sucks

Yup. Most people can't comprehend politics.

Edit:

The out-of-touchers probably are still stuck in the glorious past where propping up manufacturing plants solved everything.

So they blamed GOP for not delivering on their promise, and blamed Dem for being realistic

I think this too!

 

[Squalor]

Yup. Most people can't comprehend politics.

Most people can't comprehend.

 

[excelsiorlef]

As always third parties are basically Constitutionally assured to serve only as spoilers for whatever side they are more closely related to.


And no third party wants to build from the ground up anyway they all seem to just wanna only have to do any work every four years.


A third party on the left would eventually have to just replace the Democrats and for that to happen the Democrats would have to die.

Now i'm sure to some of you that sounds amazing but what the death of the Democrats means is a very very very strong chance of a total GOP rule literally everywhere for probably upwards of 16-20+ years....

Allowing for basically a 9-0 Conservative Supreme Court among other things.

Enjoy.

 

[Aaron Strife]

Problem is the calls for a third party don't have any ideological cohesion beyond "raaargh we are so angry". It would fall apart very quickly.

 

[jack_package_200]

Allowing for basically a 9-0 Conservative Supreme Court among other things.

Enjoy.

White brogressives: Worth it

 

[sleepnaught]

Now i'm sure to some of you that sounds amazing but what the death of the Democrats means is a total GOP rule literally everywhere for probably upwards of 16-20+ years....

Enjoy.

We don't seem that far off from that now tbh.

 

[jph139]

A multi-party system would be fantastic, but it'd require a top-to-bottom overhaul of our entire electoral system and no one in government wants to see that happen.

What we need is for the Democrats to stop sucking, mostly.

 

[Dishwalla]

Sick "both sides though" thread.

 

[jon bones]

i can't imagine what kind of terriying far reich 3rd party you'd want cooked up OP

 

[TheSchwab_7]

People always complain that politicians suck, but politicians are elected by the people to represent us, so maybe we as citizens all suck :/

 

[jack_package_200]

Sick "both sides though" thread.

Its Schattenjäger's specialty

 

[Puck Beaverton]

How cool would it be for the Democrats to stop shitting the bed?

 

[RustyNails]

Its Bull Moose party's return time.

 

[guek]

How cool would it be for the Democrats to stop shitting the bed?

Sure would be nice if the party had a clear vision or a capable leader.

 

[limination]

Yea so we need a 3rd party

I hope you aren't referring to the straight up jokes that are the Libertarian and Green Parties.

Doing absolutely nothing all the time followed by throwing a random-ass candidate at the general every four years, losing handily then crying about how you didn't get fair coverage isn't exactly what we need.

 

[BanGy.nz]

Whig Party revival!

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

3rd parties are doomed to fail in the U.S, a perpetually wasted vote by ridiculous people, and so many of these folks would be unable to articulate why they think a certain party is "out of touch" (whatever the means!), and if they tried, they would ignore a great many goals that would help a great many of people. It's so much easier to just say everything is bullshit tho. (while also ignoring mid-terms and special elections)

 

[TaterTots]

I do not disagree. Both parties are out of touch with people.

 

[R10Neymarfan]

I hope you aren't referring to the straight up jokes that are the Libertarian and Green Parties.

Doing absolutely nothing all the time followed by throwing a random-ass candidate at the general every four years, losing handily then crying about how you didn't get fair coverage isn't exactly what we need.

Jill Stein couldn't even win a local election. I will continue to say that.

 

[benjipwns]

And no third party wants to build from the ground up anyway they all seem to just wanna only have to do any work every four years..

Running a Presidential candidate is the most cost-effective method of ballot access by far. With Gubernatorial candidates being second. Then Senate candidates depending on the year.

Just because you don't pay attention to the parties when they aren't running Presidential candidates...well...that kinda proves the point.

 

[ZeoVGM]

must not know his shtick.

I do. But I think he believes what he says.

 

[jtb]

We don't need a third party. We need to improve the parties we already have.

 

[jack_package_200]

I do not disagree. Both parties are out of touch with people.

Define "people"

 

[benjipwns]

I hope you aren't referring to the straight up jokes that are the Libertarian and Green Parties.

Doing absolutely nothing all the time followed by throwing a random-ass candidate at the general every four years, losing handily then crying about how you didn't get fair coverage isn't exactly what we need.

These two parties run thousands (and hundreds but the Green Party just formed a few years ago) of candidates in every kind of election at every level.

 

[guek]

I do not disagree. Both parties are out of touch with people.

Yes, they are, but Americans at large seem to be out of touch with the world. We expect our politicians to operate like experts while denigrating experts who try to warn us about our politicians.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Their lives aren't any better, nothing has changed.

 

[Mutant]

Well, Democrats did lose to Trump so, sure.

 

[TaterTots]

Define "people"

Average joes that are not GAF users. People that have serious concerns about automation and such. Most people do not want this. Step out of this site.

 

[Belfast]

No, we don't.

And you taking "they are all out of touch" and putting it in the same category as the low popularity rating for Trump is incredibly disingenuous.

This is more representative of the ignorant, "Both parties are the same" mentality that helped lead us to a Trump victory.

Nah. They're both out of touch. I align myself more with the Democrats because they get the closest, collectively, to the things that I value,

They're leagues better than the Republicans, of course, so while I certainly wouldn't say they are both the same, I can't deny that they aren't what I want, either.

Without going too far into the details, I'd love a party that championed most liberal ideals, but actually did it with the passion and zeal that the conservatives tend to inspire.

I feel that some modern liberal values, ironically, tend to cannibalize the ability to truly fight what we believe in. We're too afraid of talking about certain things or people or issues for fear of causing offense or accidentally stepping on toes, which occupies the time and effort needed to actually *do* something about righting the wrongs.

 

[AstroNut325]

I do not disagree. Both parties are out of touch with people.

What would, in your opinion, make them in-touch with people?

 

[Meowster]

White brogressives: Worth it

Susan Sarandon would be overjoyed at the progressive accelerationalism.

 

[Schattenjäger]

Whig Party revival!

They have the best mascot ... wise owl

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Average joes that are not GAF users. People that have serious concerns about automation and such. Most people do not want this. Step out of this site.

Automation isn't about want, it's about reality. It's happening, and dealing the consequences should be the conversation.