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[K.Jack]

Artists dealing with people on stage need to learn the Action Bronson Judo special.

 

[minx]

I shouldn't be surprised by some of these responses anymore on GAF. People defending the punch? Wow. Maybe we need to raise the age level to join. I can't comprehend an adult over the age of 20 with significant life experience thinking this punch is OK and that she deserved it.

 

[richiek]

While his reaction was over the top she had no business up there committing sexual harassment on him by grinding her ass against him. He's an asshole and she's scum.

Holy false equivalency Batman!

 

[Fusebox]

I shouldn't be surprised by some of these responses anymore on GAF. People defending the punch? Wow. Maybe we need to raise the age level to join. I can't comprehend an adult over the age of 20 with significant life experience thinking this punch is OK and that she deserved it.

Yeah I'd love to see an age breakdown in this thread, maybe a weight/height column too might help me figure out why some people here are so deathly afraid of having a smaller than average girl in close proximity to them.

 

[Cragvis]

She was kinda cute, why didn't he turn around and grind with her. It looked like everyone was having a good time. I am sure no one would have cared if he stopped playing guitar for a few seconds while dancing.

What he did looked just like a dog my family had, when its eating and something gets too close to it and it just snaps. Didn't look like he was visibly upset until a split second before he hit her.

 

[Ran rp]

While his reaction was over the top she had no business up there committing sexual harassment on him by grinding her ass against him. He's an asshole and she's scum.

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

 

[JDSN]

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

Damn.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

This has to be a record for a thread of this size and nature to not have any bans.

 

[Stinkles]

This has to be a record for a thread of this size and nature to not have any bans.

I think we're being honeydicked.


I think Bish is waiting for his face to be shopped onto Afroman, and then begins the Banpocalypse.

 

[Stinkles]

I shouldn't be surprised by some of these responses anymore on GAF. People defending the punch? Wow. Maybe we need to raise the age level to join. I can't comprehend an adult over the age of 20 with significant life experience thinking this punch is OK and that she deserved it.

Also the creepy undercurrent of "why should she be treated differently just because she's a female?" Which is kind of a new trend on GAF and one I find super disturbing.

 

[AtomicSymphonic]

That is not how self defense works.
Like, you think he had a reasonable fear of serious injury or death?

At the very (like very VERY) least, this is battery.

In a court of law, this is how it works.

I know, it doesn't sound like common sense, but in law, there must be clear boundaries by which to judge people's actions and hand out appropriate responses.

However, if she threatened him in any way, or even Afroman just warning her to get off the stage in a clear-cut manner, then it could be considered self-defense.

 

[AtomicSymphonic]

Also the creepy undercurrent of "why should she be treated differently just because she's a female?" Which is kind of a new trend on GAF and one I find super disturbing.

Both men and women are capable of performing the same harmful/harmless actions to, say, a performing artist on stage.

Just because she is female doesn't mean she should receive special treatment other than what is biologically necessary for her.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

Funny, I went out for lunch a few minutes ago and the video of the incident was on a local TV news channel. I live in South America. I didn't know whether to laugh or to shake my head.

 

[sycam0re]

I 100% believe that it would be construed as a sexual assault had it been a drunk male, and no one would be talking jail time for a female performer who clocked him upside his head. Laws aren't supposed to have sexual double standards. It does us all a disservice to say "he's a guy, he should have just dealt with it." Either invading a performer's personal space is wrong, or it isn't.

Because you made up some hypothetical gender spin on this it means that she "was asking for it"? Hmm, where have I heard this one before.

 

[Coconut]

I shouldn't be surprised by some of these responses anymore on GAF. People defending the punch? Wow. Maybe we need to raise the age level to join. I can't comprehend an adult over the age of 20 with significant life experience thinking this punch is OK and that she deserved it.

I'm honestly beginning to believe that YouTube comments are going to be the end of civility. One person says " that bitch got what's coming to her." On some video from ten years ago and that attitude has created a wave of shit.

Both men and women are capable of performing the same harmful/harmless actions to, say, a performing artist on stage.

Just because she is female doesn't mean she should receive special treatment other than what is biologically necessary for her.

What's crazy to me is the implication that we would all be fine with this use of excessive force if it was him punching a man or something which I don't think any of us would be cool with it.

 

[Syriel]

I think we're being honeydicked.


I think Bish is waiting for his face to be shopped onto Afroman, and then begins the Banpocalypse.

Paging SunhiLegend. SunhiLegend, please pick up the courtesy phone. You are needed in GIFland.

 

[Stinkles]

Both men and women are capable of performing the same harmful/harmless actions to, say, a performing artist on stage.

Just because she is female doesn't mean she should receive special treatment other than what is biologically necessary for her.

Whoosh.

The point isn't whether men or women are physically equal (they are not, on average) the point is the creepy undercurrent of resentful misogyny that comes with it. There is definitely a weird little surge of people who feel compelled to state very quickly, that women deserve to be punched just like men, but I doubt these helpful feminist supporters feel the same way about salaries.

Anyway it's a real, pervasive thing on GAF these days and I am allowed to both notice and be disappointed by it.

 

[Jhriad]

shut the fuck up

Definitely the best way toward continued, polite discourse on a subject.

men arent equals to women

Actually, they are equals and should be treated as such but because of beliefs indoctrinated into large sections of society the two sexes continue to be treated differently. This thread could be used to further discuss the difference in standard treatment between the two sexes.

get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

Or it could be used for comments like this, I suppose. Kudos.

 

[Nether!]

Fuck you, Afro-man, and others.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

What a shit guitar player and a shit human.

Whoosh.

The point isn't whether men or women are physically equal (they are not, on average) the point is the creepy undercurrent of resentful misogyny that comes with it. There is definitely a weird little surge of people who feel compelled to state very quickly, that women deserve to be punched just like men, but I doubt these helpful feminist supporters feel the same way about salaries.

Anyway it's a real, pervasive thing on GAF these days and I am allowed to both notice and be disappointed by it.

Spot on.

 

[More_Badass]

Both men and women are capable of performing the same harmful/harmless actions to, say, a performing artist on stage.

Just because she is female doesn't mean she should receive special treatment other than what is biologically necessary for her.

Okay, I'm done with this if this is where this discussion is going. I've had enough female biology lessons from folks who support #GG

He shouldn't have hit her so hard that it knocked off her feet when there were myriad of other reasonable ways to respond, and really that's all there is to say. It's really disgusting and disturbing to see the mental gymnastics behind arguing that she deserved it and he was in the right for acting so violently.

 

[fawaz]

This has to be the most nonchalant punsh I've ever seen.

 

[SeanR1221]

Whoosh.

The point isn't whether men or women are physically equal (they are not, on average) the point is the creepy undercurrent of resentful misogyny that comes with it. There is definitely a weird little surge of people who feel compelled to state very quickly, that women deserve to be punched just like men, but I doubt these helpful feminist supporters feel the same way about salaries.

Anyway it's a real, pervasive thing on GAF these days and I am allowed to both notice and be disappointed by it.

Well said. It's like some posts come off as "gotcha! You want things to be equal so Afroman can knock her out!"

 

[AtomicSymphonic]

Whoosh.

The point isn't whether men or women are physically equal (they are not, on average) the point is the creepy undercurrent of resentful misogyny that comes with it. There is definitely a weird little surge of people who feel compelled to state very quickly, that women deserve to be punched just like men, but I doubt these helpful feminist supporters feel the same way about salaries.

Anyway it's a real, pervasive thing on GAF these days and I am allowed to both notice and be disappointed by it.

I understand what you mean.

I think with all the recent flurry over gender equality and other issues flared up by Gamergate in this community that people's beliefs are going to clash.

This creepy undercurrent you are describing I think is being generated by this perspective that females have been receiving "preferential treatment" in rape cases by almost always having a prosecutor believe what a female says over what most males will respond.

Because, ya know, guys are stronger than girls and all that jazz... *sigh*

So, I am thinking that this quick response of "undercurrent" being generated when a lady does in fact do something not quite right is because of the situation described above. Some men feel they need to defend themselves because of how much they feel they have been accused of doing, whether they have actually done something or not.

 

[sycam0re]

Whoosh.

The point isn't whether men or women are physically equal (they are not, on average) the point is the creepy undercurrent of resentful misogyny that comes with it. There is definitely a weird little surge of people who feel compelled to state very quickly, that women deserve to be punched just like men, but I doubt these helpful feminist supporters feel the same way about salaries.

Anyway it's a real, pervasive thing on GAF these days and I am allowed to both notice and be disappointed by it.

Yeah for real. Whenever gender parity gets brought up there's always some idiot who is like "well then I get to hit women now". I just want things like equal pay and he's thinking about if that means he can hit me and not go to jail.

 

[AtomicSymphonic]

Okay, I'm done with this if this is where this discussion is going. I've had enough female biology lessons from folks who support #GG

He shouldn't have hit her so hard that it knocked off her feet when there were myriad of other reasonable ways to respond, and really that's all there is to say. It's really disgusting and disturbing to see the mental gymnastics behind arguing that she deserved it and he was in the right for acting so violently.

Oh no, I agree with you there. Afroman should not have hit her so hard. Not at all. It was unnecessary.

A simple push back would have been enough if Afroman felt his personal space invaded.

And on this note of #GG, I neither support it or am opposed to it. I restrain myself from getting involved in this issue as it is something that can become very personal very quick.

 

[Des0lar]

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

In what world is this an appropriate answer?

 

[More_Badass]

Oh no, I agree with you there. Afroman should not have hit her so hard. Not at all. It was unnecessary.

A simple push back would have been enough if Afroman felt his personal space invaded.

And on this note of #GG, I neither support it or am opposed to it. I restrain myself from getting involved in this issue as it is something that can become very personal very quick.

I wasn't accusing you, I was just saying that I've seen enough biology lessons from those people over the last few months and was hoping that this discussion didn't descend into that.

 

[Willectro]

Saw this video the other day. Pretty disgusting behavior on the part of Afroman. I don't think people should get on stage (performance dependent) but this could have been handled far better.

Performers should be careful with regard to fans on stage. Randy Blythe (of metal band Lamb of God) got involved with a manslaughter case in Czech Republic after a fan was pushed off stage. And metal shows are pretty rowdy (people stage diving, crowd surfing, etc) compared to what appeared to be the vibe at the Afroman show.

Beyond legal issues, if there was no security to keep 1 fan off stage, what was stopping people from rushing the stage?

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

Because you made up some hypothetical gender spin on this it means that she "was asking for it"? Hmm, where have I heard this one before.

You put all kinds of words in my mouth considering what I implied was very straightforward.

Yes or no, if some dude jumped on the stage last week during the All Star game, is he or is he not getting carried out of there in a stretcher? And is he not public enemy #1 right now?

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

Glad you aren't writing laws.

 

[Risible]

This has to be a record for a thread of this size and nature to not have any bans.

It's astounding. I stopped commenting because it was obvious that no one's mind was going to be changed r.e. the appropriateness of what Afroman did. I did however fully expect, given the misogyny on display, to come back at some point and see a graveyard of grayed out names. Imagine my surprise. Maybe it's because the personal attacks have been kept to a minimum? I'm not sure. It's a mystery for the ages .

 

[Gumbie]

Why does it feel like some of the people in here defending this shit have some deep seated woman hating issues? Did some of ya'll get friend zoned when you asked m'lady out on a date?

 

[Risible]

Beyond legal issues, if there was no security to keep 1 fan off stage, what was stopping people from rushing the stage?

Civility? Politeness? Decorum?

 

[Fusebox]

Actually, they are equals and should be treated as such but because of beliefs indoctrinated into large sections of society the two sexes continue to be treated differently.

Yeah c'mon guys hurry up and sanction male vs female boxing matches.

 

[sycam0re]

You put all kinds of words in my mouth considering what I implied was very straightforward.

Yes or no, if some dude jumped on the stage last week during the All Star game, is he or is he not getting carried out of there in a stretcher? And is he not public enemy #1 right now?

Because you made up some hypothetical gender spin on this it means that she "was asking for it"?

You're saying these things on your own.

 

[studyguy]

shut the fuck up
men arent equals to women
different sets of rules apply
get out of your house, interact with people and stop wanking off to cartoons of underaged girls

God damn son.

 

[Willectro]

Civility? Politeness? Decorum?

Things that didn't stop Afroman from swinging?

 

[kirblar]

In what world is this an appropriate answer?

This piece does a great job explaining the worldview issues that make it "ok" to them: https://www.geneseo.edu/webfm_send/3244. People aren't able to see men as victims and women as victimizers.

 

[Fusebox]

This piece does a great job explaining the worldview issues that make it "ok" to them: https://www.geneseo.edu/webfm_send/3244. People aren't able to see men as victims and women as victimizers.

Not sure how you inferred anything about victimisation from his post.

The idea that women shouldn't be treated differently in any manner at any time is nice in a utopian kind of way but unfortunately some fat fucks like Afroman just see equality as a green light to knock out little girls and the fact that people here are willing to defend him tells me we aren't ready for that yet.

 

[Hankodank]

THIS is a knockout punch:

 

[riotous]

You put all kinds of words in my mouth considering what I implied was very straightforward.

Yes or no, if some dude jumped on the stage last week during the All Star game, is he or is he not getting carried out of there in a stretcher? And is he not public enemy #1 right now?

Many people are more protective over women than they are over men..

But there are plenty of people who:

1) Wouldn't consider either case sexual assault if the sexes were reversed
2) Consider the violent reaction abhorrent regardless of the sexes.

I'll admit I'm MORE disgusted when I see a woman being knocked out by a man; it's how I was raised and it's what continues to make sense to me. But I don't promote violent assaults either way so I'm not going to go put a hypocrite hat on and sit in the corner. Nor do I think that being more protective over women is some god awful example of sexism; there is some sense to it.. women bare our children.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

You put all kinds of words in my mouth considering what I implied was very straightforward.

Yes or no, if some dude jumped on the stage last week during the All Star game, is he or is he not getting carried out of there in a stretcher? And is he not public enemy #1 right now?

People jump on stage at events all the time. They typically get escorted out by security. Force is used if the person resists and gets violent.

Where is it SOP to punch a girl in the face if she drunkenly gets on stage and dances?

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Many people are more protective over women than they are over men..

But there are plenty of people who:

1) Wouldn't consider either case sexual assault if the sexes were reversed
2) Consider the violent reaction abhorrent regardless of the sexes.

I'll admit I'm MORE disgusted when I see a woman being knocked out by a man; it's how I was raised and it's what continues to make sense to me. But I don't promote violent assaults either way so I'm not going to go put a hypocrite hat on and sit in the corner. Nor do I think that being more protective over women is some god awful example of sexism; there is some sense to it.. women bare our children.

But the thing is we should be able to take gender out of this scenario and simply look at:

Person gets on stage a bit too drunk and performer smashes their face in.

Not sure how there are those (not you) that will do all these mental backflips to portray the overreacting performer as the victim....

 

[riotous]

But the thing is we should be able to take gender out of this scenario and simply look at:

Person gets on stage a bit too drunk and performer smashes their face in.

Not sure how there are those (not you) that will do all these mental backflips to portray the overreacting performer as the victim....

Yeah and I'm not buying the idea that this thread would have turned out so incredibly differently.. there are plenty on neogaf who are anti-violence in general and don't only speak out against violence against women.

And she barely bumped up against the guy; so I have trouble believing this idea that everyone would be calling it a sexual assault either.

 

[Stinkles]

Yeah and I'm not buying the idea that this thread would have turned out so incredibly differently.. there are plenty on neogaf who are anti-violence in general and don't only speak out against violence against women.

And she barely bumped up against the guy; so I have trouble believing this idea that everyone would be calling it a sexual assault either.

If it had been a little dude, dancing harmlessly. (which is what she was doing despite the "sexual assault twerk assassin" claims throughout this embarrassment of a thread, we'd be having the same conversation more or less.

 

[zeemumu]

Not gonna jump into the argument that this thread derailed into.

Bottom line: he shouldn't have sucker punched her for getting up on stage. There were plenty of other ways to handle that situation. Don't punch out your audience.

 

[Mix Master]

Afroman sent her to the 5th dimension, gaht damn.

 

[caffeware]

Weird thing is that he seems to be laughing/flirting with the girl at the start of the video.

 

[zer0blivion]

Woman punched by Afroman on stage speaks out for the first time
http://www.wdam.com/story/28558277/woman-punched-by-afroman-on-stage-speaks-out-for-the-first-time

Video of the attack was seen around the world. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/liJ-zVfHvs8

"It makes me sick to my stomach to watch like every time I do watch it, and it's just upsetting," said Haley Byrd, speaking out for the first time since the incident exclusively to WLOX News.

Byrd arrived at Kress Live, a fan of Afroman. She left in fear of him.

"I don't really remember much after I was struck. I was in complete shock, and I just remember wanting to get away," said Byrd.

Although she was able to get up and walk off of the stage, Byrd still found herself in the hospital.

"I was diagnosed with a concussion. I had several facial contusions, and my whole right side of my face was swollen. I had a busted lip. It was bleeding, and I'm also seeing an oral surgeon for the alignment of my jaw. Until this day I'm still dealing with the anxiety issues," said Byrd.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Called that concussion. Egg on the face of the "she's fine, she got right back up" crowd. EGG ON YOUR FACES, I SAY!