Alan Wake
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No? In the UK the split is 90/10 in favor of digital. PlayStation's physical/digital sales split in Q2 2023: 67/33 in favor of digital. And so on. You can look for more stats yourself.
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Alan Wake 2: Lack Of Sales Update Suggests It Didn’t Sell Too Well
IlGialloMondadori
Member
I still really really want to know what it is about Alan Wake 2 flopping that “aligns with what you enjoy,” and makes you sleep well at night.
Please…I’m dying to hear what you have to say, I’m sure it’s a doozy. I need to know what games that Alan Wake 2 is such a threat to.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
We are not getting anywhere with physical ca digital numbers because it’s not apples to apples. We don’t have all exact same games sold here and here to compare.
We need comparison of big AAA exclusives distribution. Like god of war ragnarok or ff16. For sure good physical part on this
demigod
Member
Oh really? Is that why FF16 sold more physically?
Let's not rush the death of physical video games | Opinion
Are we approaching the finale of the physical video games business?
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The Skull
Member
I assume it is the race swapped Saga Anderson and the "another white asshole" line from the game.
The race swapping I'm kind of meh about. As far as I'm aware the original Saga Anderson only appeared in a short teaser video from Quantum Break for Remedy to tease Alan Wake 2, not like she was an established character.
The white asshole line in the game is when the dark place is trying to fuck with Saga's mind place and she dismisses it, ironically meaning it would be an evil version of her that said such things.
It's a nothingburger really compared to how "woke" some games can be.
Senua
Member
Nah but it's a much broader, accessible, lowest common denominator, standard sequel..Manufactured for the masses to lap up. Alan wake 2 is a passion project for Remedy. Loads of love poured into it.
But because black lady protag and you aren't shooting the bang bang gun at peeps every 10 seconds it's "WOKE BORE FEST"
BTW there is room for both games but you'd think an "enthusiast" gaming forum like gaf would prefer the more niche passion product over the 500th popcorn action game sequel. Just curious is all
Alan Wake
Member
But for God's sake. I'm not talking about individual games, I'm talking about the general trend in the industry. Is this news to you? Are you unaware that digital is growing at the expense of physical?Oh really? Is that why FF16 sold more physically?
Let's not rush the death of physical video games | Opinion
Are we approaching the finale of the physical video games business?
Alan Wake
Member
I'm talking about the general trend of digital distribution vs physical as the argument of why Alan Wake II being a digital only release probably wasn't the main reason it flopped. We obviously don't know, but I don't think so.
Xbox is leading the trend here but PlayStation gamers are also leaning more and more towards digital. I personally don't like this, I always buy physical if it's possible. I want my games in my physical collection. But I'm a dinosaur who grew up with games in the early 90s. AW2 it wasn't available on disc, and being a fan I surely wasn't going to miss out of this game out of pure stubbornness. But I still hope we'll get a physical copy one day (hell, I'd like a collector's edition!).
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yeah of course.
if it failed digitally, having physical too would not fix that. AT BEST (not likely) you would double sales on ps5... which is a drop in water for this game probably
xrnzaaas
Member
Physical release wouldn't save the game, but it still would mean more copies sold. In general I think they'd gain more from it than potentially lose because of people reselling their copies. It's quite a long game and it's mostly targeted at fans of Remedy / first Alan Wake so it's more likely they'd keep their copies.
Griffon
Member
A lack of physical release didn't stop Baldur's Gate 3 from selling bazillions of copies.
The truth is that modern remedy games are pretty, very polished, have weird self-fellating stories, and are utterly uninteresting to play. The time when max payne had the best action gameplay of its era is long gone.
The truth is that modern remedy games are pretty, very polished, have weird self-fellating stories, and are utterly uninteresting to play. The time when max payne had the best action gameplay of its era is long gone.
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IlGialloMondadori
Member
So you don’t even know shit about the game, you’re just upset because there’s a black woman in it. Got it.
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Lord Malachite
Member
Epic released the remaster of the original Alan Wake on PS5, PS4, and Series physically.
Shake Your Rump
Member
Might have hindered?
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I am curious though if they consider these sales really bad or not as it is unknown how much did they expect to sell.
I think the biggest mistake was EGS exclusivity. What I think Epic should have done was to release the game everywhere (EGS, Steam etc.) but those who buy it on EGS would get the Deluxe Edition as a bonus.That way they could even double dip - people probably would have bought the game on EGS store and also on Steam sale later or even at launch.
I think the biggest mistake was EGS exclusivity. What I think Epic should have done was to release the game everywhere (EGS, Steam etc.) but those who buy it on EGS would get the Deluxe Edition as a bonus.That way they could even double dip - people probably would have bought the game on EGS store and also on Steam sale later or even at launch.
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TheSHEEEP
Gold Member
On one hand, to assume anything from a lack of data is highly unprofessional, to say the least.
On the other hand, on PC it was on EGS only, and I don't think I need to point out that that won't exactly translate to massive sales.
I'd be more interested in what will happen once this comes to Steam.
So, in the end, all we know is this:
On the other hand, on PC it was on EGS only, and I don't think I need to point out that that won't exactly translate to massive sales.
I'd be more interested in what will happen once this comes to Steam.
So, in the end, all we know is this:
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
But it’s not a FMV game? Just cinematic clips using real life actors.
TerribleAtThisGame
Member
I personally am responsible for four lost sales on my Discord group!
samoilaaa
Member
is there actually a line in the game that says "another white asshole" ? holy shit
DaGwaphics
Member
On one hand, to assume anything from a lack of data is highly unprofessional, to say the least.
On the other hand, on PC it was on EGS only, and I don't think I need to point out that that won't exactly translate to massive sales.
I'd be more interested in what will happen once this comes to Steam.
So, in the end, all we know is this:
This, when we don't have any numbers about the sales or Remedy's sales expectations, it's kind of hard to make a judgement about flop status. LOL.
PC gamers are weird about the the "store wars" though, so, I can see being exclusive to Epic as an extremely limiting factor on PC.
gaming_again
Member
Sleep well at night? Threat? You definitely don't sound unhinged... to answer your question: I'm just not into narrative-heavy cutscene games with lots of walking and dialogue. I have books and films for that kind of thing. Sadly for me, this has been the fashion for big budget single player games for years. I hope this flop means they are becoming less fashionable.
nkarafo
Member
Real question: How many games that have a black woman protagonist ever sold well?
Doom85
Member
Resident Evil 5 - 14 million copies sold
IlGialloMondadori
Member
I’m not unhinged, I swear, but I do like pissing about on forums. I was assuming you were a moron who thinks it’s a woke game, and was looking to enjoy the response, but sadly that’s not the case. You sound reasonable.
That’s fair, but I’d say what Alan Wake 2 is is still quite unique, and it’s miraculous it was made at all. I think that’s why sales aren’t super strong, and it’s unfortunate, because the industry would be better if there were a place for larger budget unique, personal visions.
nkarafo
Member
I assume that's not the only thing. There's was a video posted when the game was released that showcased many subtle things they did with this particular character and how everyone around reacts to her that screams Sweet Baby edits all the way to me. I mean, they officially did get their dirty hands on this game after all.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Both games have woke shit.
Alan Wake is more my style but... EGS and I have a
that came with my 4090....Last Hearth
Member
More copies sold, yeah, but more profitable? Doubtful.
Producing a physical copy release is not cheap. Manufacturing those copies, getting them into thousands of stores, all cost money, plus you have to pay retailers around 30%. It’s not at all obvious to me that they would have sold enough physical copies to make it worthwhile.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Go out on black friday and look and see the top selling items every year.
Last Hearth
Member
Yup, I'm not going to be able to tell you the specific woke things in it because I wrote the game off when I found out they paid Sweet Baby to be a consultant on it. That's all I needed to know.
JayK47
Member
So basically the Disney treatment. Is she also a lesbian?
And some games you do not need to play to know they are bad. This is one of those games. I know what I like. And I barely enjoyed the first game. And the second one has a token black woman to check a box. Hard pass.
Ulysses 31
Member
Nah, she's a mother(dunno if the game ever brings up the father)
She's an FBI agent but the way she's written she doesn't act like one at all. Also NPCs just speak up openly in an almost infantile manner(Sweet Baby Inc. touch?).
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
For those of you bringing up lack of disc sales, it probably wouldnt move the needle much. PC is all digital to begin with and Xbox/PS are around 80% digital sales. And for those disc purists, there's going to be a portion who caved in and went digital for AW2. Just because someone prefers discs doesn't mean they only buy 100% disc games forever.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I haven't bought it yet even though I really liked the original (well, I liked the story and atmosphere, the gameplay was very average). That's partly because my backlog is too big, but there being no physical version definitely contributed to me not buying it day 1. Had there been one I likely would have pre-ordered, and thus I would have had a copy now. I don't pre-order digital games, because that's silly.
Hunter 99
Member
I was interested in buying AW2 but £49.99 still is too much.
If they dropped it to £34.99 I might reconsider.
It's only like a tenner less than a physical AAA release.
Survival Horror is my favourite genre of games if I'm being honest and I wanted to jump on it when it released but I don't want to fork out that much for a pretty looking game that reviewers and fellow gafers are saying is a walking sim with poor enemy variety and also woke as hell.
I'll wait until its on sale.
If they dropped it to £34.99 I might reconsider.
It's only like a tenner less than a physical AAA release.
Survival Horror is my favourite genre of games if I'm being honest and I wanted to jump on it when it released but I don't want to fork out that much for a pretty looking game that reviewers and fellow gafers are saying is a walking sim with poor enemy variety and also woke as hell.
I'll wait until its on sale.
Alan Wake
Member
But man. What about raw statistics for the entire year and over time is hard to understand?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Physical games sell millions every year.
Is this hard to understand?
Fake
Member
If you're a PC gamer, You can get it directly from Epic for just under $27 USD after the 33% off voucher, and it also comes with a copy of Alan Wake Remastered. It's about $10 more for the deluxe edition that includes the future DLC packs.
Wolfpact1983
Member
So we can expect a physical version of the game in the future then...good.
Gambit2483
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Windom Earle
Member
Aaah those were simpler times. You could just have POC main characters because the developer actually wanted it and there was no reason to question motives.
But then again we had that stupid black zombie debate back then so there were already foreshadows of things to come.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
RE5 was so stupid it was so good. I finshed it in one sitting on release.
Replayed it in local coop with buddy last year and it's still ok.
Village even makes a joke about "boulder punching asshole" lol
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
First game was also in 360 bundles too. When I got a new 360 console in 2012 after getting RROD, one of the free downable games was AW.
Doom85
Member
Which honestly makes no sense since IIRC Sheva was hanging off a ledge when Chris did that, and Wesker was only minutes away from dying. Meaning Chris would have to been the one to spread that story about the boulder afterwards which doesn’t fit his character at all (on the other hand, the “Claire sandwich” in Revelations 2 I could buy since Barry does seem like he’d be the type to go on and on about his adventures, including any cheesy lines he said, to his kids and friends, so Moira and Claire knowing about the original line made sense).
But since Heisenberg‘s line was still really funny:
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Alan wake 1 was a solid third person poltergeist shooter, the trailers for Alan wake 2 were sweet